The long journey to greatness...

[Achilles]

Starting today, I will be taking PE seriously, I've started the newbie routine posted in one of the threads and will be sticking to a one day on one day off routine. I'm going to try to keep it discreet so my wife doesn't know and see how it pays off. Starting now I'm 5.5in BPEL and 4.0in BPFL. I've not taken measurements for girth and will be taking them as soon as I get a good tape measure. Wish me luck. Current Goal is 6in EL and roughly 5.5 in girth, I'll adjust my goal if i'm way off when I get a measurement. I'd appreciate any help I can get in tailoring a routine and some insight on how to keep things discreet. Thanks.

***Edit*** Recently took Girth measurements showing 4.5in. Changing my short term goals to 6.0 BPEL and 5.0 Girth in a little over a month. Can it be done?

[Axlerod]

It sometimes takes a few months to see gains, though some do see significant gains early on. Don't get disillusioned if it takes longer. Good luck.

[Achilles]

Oh I'm not going to be too disappointed if I don't see anything I'm just trying to keep a reasonable goal to reach in a few months. Thanks though :)

[Axlerod]

When I first started I got no errect gains in the first 3 months, but then made consistent gains every month after that. I think a lot of people give up after a month or so if they don't see gains.

[Achilles]

I plan on doing this consistently for the next year or so if not longer. So if I don't see gains in the first few months that's okay, I'm bound to see something in a year, assuming I'm doing everything correctly. :)

[w3]

Hi and welcome to CC!

First off.. don't get your hopes too high.
And don't let what I'm about to say, get you down, because you need to understand that this journey you're about to start will be long, and requires consistency and hard work.

You can set your ultimate goal as high as you want, but don't expect to gain half an inch of length AND girth in a month.

I gained .35" of length in my first month, which is by many standards exceptional!
But after that.. my next gains took like what, a year? Two? Can't quite recall right now.
Though mostly it was because of inconsistency that I didn't gain during those times.

And there is one thing that can affect the speed of your initial gains.
I believe I read it somewhere that the human penis keeps growing till 21 or to your mid twenties usually.

So as a young man, you can experience some quick gains, IF your penis hasn't stretched all the way out to it's natural size.
But after that come the real gains, and those gains will require a lot of hard work.

Also.. start off with a really non-intense routine. I am a firm believer in less is more, and especially when you just start doing PE.

What kind of a routine are you doing currently?

[w3]

Oh yeah.. and you can't drop doing PE after a year, even if you gained two inches.

Because that way you haven't cemented your gains yet, and it will all slowly revert back to where you started.

You will need many many years of consistent PE to make the gains stay, and even after that I'd say it's best to keep doing a maintenance routine a few times a week.
Because what we are doing, is pretty new anyways.
There ain't that many two decade studies out there about natural penis enlargement. :wink:
If you know what I mean!

[Achilles]

I believe I'm doing the Assmaster's newbie routine. Basically a warmup, stretches, wet jelq's and warm downs. That's my routine, basically takes 20-30 minutes at most and I don't feel like I've majorly strained anything. I understand the maintenance aspect as well. I plan on probably doing maintenance my whole life just because I'm a fitness freak and like having an outstanding body in all aspects. Thanks for the words of... encouragement and warning. I understand all of that and have researched a ton for a couple of months now to see what I would need to do.

[Achilles]

Sooooo tempted to remeasure I FEEL like i've gained but I'm going to hold off to get official measurements at the one month mark. Been going at it strong for a week now and I've gotta say I actually enjoy this feeling.

[TheJuice]

Let's hope you don't get disappointed when the measuring day comes. Keep on trucking :D

[Achilles]

Even if there aren't any gains I know that it takes a while to see some so I won't be disappointed. I'll keep at it :) Thanks for the motivation!

[Axlerod]

When's your measuring day then Achilles? Just need to know when to come over and give you a big high 5 :icon_smile:

[Achilles]

December 27th. I'm counting down the days like it's Christmas or something lol.

[Axlerod]

Lets hope you get a nice shiny new ruler for christmas from Mrs Achilles.

[Achilles]

Haha, I'm most definitely certain that won't happen (She has no clue I'm doing this, and she has made comments that no man has ever pleased her like I do. :) ) But still, i'm all about self improvement lol.

[TheJuice]

and she has made comments that no man has ever pleased her like I do. :)

Uh, that must have felt good to hear :twisted:

[Achilles]

Maybe a little bit, :) But like I said, I'm not the biggest guy around and I'd like to be a bit larger to take care of her a little more. My ULTIMATE goal is around 7.5 and 5.5 or so. Not too big not small either.

[Axlerod]

That's awesome Achilles. Bet by the time you get to that goal you'll want more though. Such is our nature......

[TheJuice]

That's awesome Achilles. Bet by the time you get to that goal you'll want more though. Such is our nature......

The grass is always greener on the other side.

Ach: Your goal is very similar to mine. Seems like a good size :D

[Achilles]

Probably true lol. But I don't want to break her lol. She's 5'3 and 110. She's a tiny one.


On to the PE Diary:

Did my workout today, added in an extra set of stretches, at 2 sets now. Which is normal for most, just started with one because I didn't want to overdo it, the session felt really good. Gonna keep going strong until measurement day :)

[Achilles]

Also, I added multivitamins to my diet. I've never consistently taken these so I'm kinda stoked about that as well.

[TheJuice]

Make sure to take your multivitamin with some sort og fat-based food (like a handful of nuts) since some vitamins and minerals need fat to be stored in your body.

[Achilles]

I've been taking them with a Peanut Butter and Chocolate Chip granola bar. So... I think I have the fat I need. :)

[Axlerod]

Hey mate, how have you coped with the forum being down for a day or so!?!?

[TheJuice]

Yeah what was up with that. I missed CC yesterday :neut:

[Axlerod]

I know I must have checked about 30 times while it was down! Was so relieved when it was back this morning.

Bit surprising that Achilles hasn't checked in since it's been back up. Hope the stress of the site being down not being able to increase his post count didn't drive him to suicide :wink:

[TheJuice]

Wouldn't be surprised if it did, though. :D

[Achilles]

Haha, I've been fine, I recently moved so I didn't notice the site being down :P I did measure yesterday and have to note that I have gained. I now stand at 6.0" BPEL and 4.75" Girth. This stuff works :)

[TheJuice]

What the fudge. Didn't you just start PE'ing december 1th? That's some crazy gains! :drool:

[Achilles]

I started like the 27th of nov, but yea, I'm very stoked :)

[Axlerod]

AWESOME gains man. That's immense for your first measurement.

And good to have you back!

I measure tomorrow ready for the start of hell month. Wish me luck!

[TheJuice]

I started like the 27th of nov, but yea, I'm very stoked :)

Wow, amazing gains :cheeky:

[Achilles]

I'm quite happy but as W3 pointed out early. I'm young so I still may have alot of growing left in me, those gains may have been due to a late blooming. I think my next gains will be quite slow and laborsome. I'm not in the least bit discouraged though. :)

[Achilles]

AWESOME gains man. That's immense for your first measurement.

And good to have you back!

I measure tomorrow ready for the start of hell month. Wish me luck!

Good luck Axe! I'm rooting for you.

[w3]

Congrats on your gains man! :hug:

Keep it up, and be ready for some serious work in the future. :cool

Oh and I noticed you mentioning multivitamins.
I'd rather not use that shit, because you never know what they really have in them.
There have been a few studies done on various vitamin pills, and youth elixirs you can buy from all natural stores and new age hippie stores.
Some even contained sildenafil, which is viagra. And the vitamins and minerals they were said to contain, well, mostly weren't even there..

And even if you are eating a legit vitamin which has all it says on the side of the bottle, dump it.

Vitamins are a shortcut, and not a very good one either.
You need to eat diversely, veggies, rice, potatoes, chicken, bull, cow, fish, everything. just eat everything a little and you'll be healthier than 90% of people.

Lets put it this way,
you eat somewhat diversely, your diet consist of 20% veggies and 50% potatoes and 30% meat.

You take a multivitamin pill that has 50-100% of the vitamins daily intake.
Some of those vitamins will overlap with what you get from your diet, and some of those vitamins can have long term effects if they are fat soluble vitamins.
They might start effecting how your thyroid works etc.

And obviously, any fat soluble vitamins that you eat more than you need, have to be burned by the liver.
And that can put too much stress on your liver, especially if you have some kind of liver disease running in your family.

In my opinion there are two vitamins that you as a young person can take, vitamin C and vitamin D. (older people may actually benefit from a wider range of vitamins)

Vitamin C has pretty minimal effects, and needs to be taken ridiculous amounts to get an overdose (10 000mg), and that results in a diahhrea.. :lol:
But can help battle the symptoms of flu etc.

Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin, which I don't recommend taking too much.
But if you live in a country where the winter is dark, you can take some vitamin D during the dark periods.
Since usually the sun is our primary source of vitamin D, which our skin produces.

Nonetheless, half a kg to a kg of DIFFERENT veggies and fruits a day will keep you really healthy.
And what the vitamins don't give you, which is one of the main positive effects of vegetables, is FIBER.

And fiber is needed for the wellbeing of your bowel.

Sure you can get fibre from bread..
But a good diet is diverse.
And there's is that little extra something about eating "alive" material that will pump you full of life!

If your diet consist mainly of white bread, and meat plus something on the side, you may experience a period of inconstipation when starting to eat more veggies.
So you should start introducing them little by little, the fibre from vegetables seems to be different than from bread.

One thing that is also important to the wellbeing of your bowel, which will result in your metabolism to get a boost, and you may also lose some weight:

Eating at short intervals.

People usually eat twice a day, and a lot at times.
This is bad because of three things.

1. Your body will not use all of the material you are feeding it, because there are maximum intake amounts for different ingredients in foods. For example if you haven't done anything physical, your body's one time intake maximum for protein is 30 grams. After a real hard workout it can be as high as 60, but that will require you to get your metabolism working good.

2. Obviously extra stress for your system, because of the crazy amounts of food you are putting through, which can also result in diahrrea or constipation, since your bowel isn't working with an optimal load.

3. Your energy levels will fluctuate.

If you eat a little, let's say every 3 or 4 hours, your energy levels will stay in good range for the whole day.
And your metabolism will be boosted, since the "engine" will be constantly working.
And that metabolism boost will lead to weight loss, even without doing extra workouts.
Of course if you are eating more than you need in terms of calories, you will not lose weight.

Sorry about the long post. But this is good stuff right here my friend, I hope you put it to good use.

[TheJuice]

Your body will not use all of the material you are feeding it, because there are maximum intake amounts for different ingredients in foods. For example if you haven't done anything physical, your body's one time intake maximum for protein is 30 grams. After a real hard workout it can be as high as 60, but that will require you to get your metabolism working good.
I just want to point out that there has been quite a lot of research about how much protein the human body can handle in one serving. The answer is, that it is way more complex than just "30 grams". There is no exact amount. I'm not saying that there isn't a limit - because there certainly is - but the "30 grams of protein in one serving"-myth is outdated and frankly false. It's a very common misconception in the nutrition and weight lifting world.

Besides that, great post :D

[Achilles]

Thanks for the input w3, I will continue to eat diversely but I think I may continue taking the multivitamin due to many doctors recommendations. I am 5'11" and 155 lbs. so I definitely do not have a weight issue, in fact I should put some more on and will in the coming year.(Weights, more diverse diet, activity) But thanks, and thank you all for all this motivation!

[Axlerod]

Hey Achilles, just thought I'd pop over and whore up your diary a bit as I'm creeping up to the magical avatar time. Wonder if I can get to 1000 before you get to 200.....

[w3]

TheJuice, you're right, but so is my post as well. :mrgreen
What you see there is "30-60g of protein per serving" :wink: just said in a complex way. :lol:

Like I said, it depends on the level of your physical activity.
30 grams for not doing shit, and eating at 4 hour intervals. So your body is well nutritioned.

The intake of protein increases as there is more need.

What I could be wrong about is the absolute upper limit though (60g), and you are correct, this information I am spreading here is pretty old. I'm not surprised if there are some advances in nutritional science, and will admit if I am wrong. :mrgreen

But the basics do go something like that!


Oh..
Achilles and Axlerod..

WHORE OFF!!

[w3]

Both of you go to Non PE chat right now. :wink:

[Axlerod]

That place is whored out already so I'm gonna have to spread a bit of it around here.

[Achilles]

Hmm well I guess I can allow it.

[Axlerod]

That's pretty generous dude. Especially given that you're banned from whoring on my progress diary :wink:

[Achilles]

Pssh... you can't ban me. I'm an unstoppable whore... I get what I want :P

[3pgh]

0.5" length, 0.25" girth in 15 days? You're my hero! :mrgreen

[Achilles]

I'm nobody's hero. As I said earlier it may just be because I haven't grown to my full potential yet. I can't say it's from the workouts, or the vitamins... I am happy with the results though.

[w3]

Just like with love, you shouldn't over analyze it,

-- just enjoy it.

[Axlerod]

Yeah Achilles. Accept the congratulations. Whenever any of us gains it's further proof that this definitely works so others who might not gain this month can look to that for comfort.

[Achilles]

Okay okay... I'll accept it, thank you all!

[Axlerod]

Jesus man, stop going on about your gains. In my opinion it's just 'cause you're young and still growing.:cool

[Achilles]

Pfft, I'm gonna write a book about how to gain half an inch in 15 days!

[Achilles]

Completed my workout today, good pump too. I feel great :)

[TheJuice]

Right on! :cool

[Axlerod]

Hey Achilles, not seen you on here for a while. Not the same without you!

[Achilles]

Been a busy couple weeks, i've tried to log on but between work and getting ready to deploy, well... it's been tough, i'll try to log on more.

[TheJuice]

Where are you deploying to?

[Achilles]

Kuwait, and I update my hell month thread.

[TheJuice]

How's Kuwait treating you?

[Inferno]

Wanted to pop in and say good luck in Kuwait, and you have some outrageously quick gains :cheeky: