Non-Fiction or Fiction?

[BigMike415]

I was just wondering guys if it was realistic to go from 5" EL,4 3/4" EG to 10"EL,6"EG, how long would this take and is it something someone may obtain in the next year if they have a workout that always changes and is it true you should take a 1 week break from PE every 4 weeks on it? Thank you

[zwmusic]

BigMike, I don't mean to be rude mate but what is realistic is what you get. You can gain like hell or not, it all depends on your approach, how well you commit yourself, whether you get the right balance of all sorts of exercises, how well you do them... plus, it also depends on your body receptiveness to PE.

[Bobo]

Difficult to say if You can double the size, but easy to say that it won't happen in one year. That "routine that always changes" sounds weird, because You should find something that works and stick to it rather than just doing random exercises. An 1-2 week break is good to take if the gains stop for some reason, but it isn't mandatory to take a break that often. I don't know where You got all that weird info, but I do know it wasn't CC. Do Your homework here, read all the sticky topics, and You'll know alot more.

[Shane_Bos]

Dont know if anyone has gained that much before but i see no reason it wouldnt happen but definitely not in a year. If you are dedicated, consistent and you know your stuff then you'll get there, it will just take quite a few years as a guess.

[BigMike415]

Is it true and is there any evidence that Matt went from 4.5" EL to 10" EL?
I also heard some stories that it took around 1 /2 years but of course with the proper breaks,nutrition and exercise routine. Thanks again.

[MagnumXL]

Fiction. Your penis is like an antenna. You can make it bigger but only so much. Right now most guy's dicks arent pulled out as much as they could be. You do PE to get it to the maximum length it could possibly go without snaping the thing off. Girth is another story. I honestly believe you can gain 3+ inches on girth which... well would make u godzilla.

[Valk]

Matt isnt even real. He's fiction.

[ownd]

That is true there is not matt we recently found out that it is a posting bot that comes and posts every so often.

[Bobo]

Since we're talking to a nooby who won't get the joke, I must say Matt is real, and he's the boss around here. I don't know about his size or gains, but he's real and a good guy.

[MagnumXL]

Yes bobo, but there is no spoon. :cool

[BigMike415]

How long would it take me realisticly to gain 2" of length?
I have my program layed out for around 1 year, hopefully anytime by then?lol

[Bobo]

I mean it: that's an impossible question, it all depends on too many variables. Because You insist on getting an answer, I'll say it takes anything between six months and three years. If You won't learn how to PE properly, it may take longer than that (if You waste time with poor technique).

[wern]

You may never gain 2"

Some people don't gain anything even though they PE regularly. It's the same with body building. Some people do weights and still don't gain body mass.

Here's an example

Bigoke (http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?t=379) gained an inch in length in his first 2 months!!!!
But in the 3rd month he didn't gain at all.

G-Spot19 (http://www.cheekycherry.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4182) gained 1/4 inches in 3 months. Then he gave up for another 7 months. Then he started up again and in a month and a half he gained an inch!!

Therefore your question can't be answered.

[Steve Madden]

In my opinion those who do not see good gains in PE can almost certainly attribute their lack of success to overtraining. Of course if your technique absolutly sucks you won't see much, but honestly the majority of these excercises are fairly simple. I recently got into a new type of muscle building called High Intensity Training, or HIT. The principle of HIT is to train each muscle group (8 to 12 exercises) one time to absolute fairure 3 times per week. Most everyone who lifts seriously or even moderatly does much more than this, but few if any do so with the proper intensity. The fact is, if you excercise with this proper intensity, multiple sets and daily workouts are simply impossible. After a long hiatus from PE, I've decided to return and try to apply the principles of HIT to my workouts. Of course to failure here is a little different, in my mind jelqs done in perfect form for a set amount. I will also be starting again as a beginner as a result of my newfound awareness of the follies of overtraining that have until now limited my muscle and penile gains. Another point I would like to make is in regard to the gains/recovery ability connection. I am far from the most experienced member on this board, but would never the less like to offer a bit of advice to the more seasoned and successful gainers here. Already it has been found that taking off a few weeks from time to time can do wonders for your gains, but another thing to consider in the less is more principal in your workouts themselves. When you stop gaining, after a break of a week or more, try beginning again with a less straining routine. The reason for this is that an increase in gains represents a decrease in recovery ability, and therefore for continued success you must train less as you progress. I know this is all theory, and that muscle and penile growth are somewhat different things. However my recent awakening to the rampid overtraining in my muscle building efforts has led me to believe the same may be true of my PE endeavors. Though the tissues are different, both the penis and muscles require ample recovery time in order to see growth. Sorry about the length of this post, I hope this is helpful.

Steve Madden

[BIGOKE]

Interesting theory Steve, I'm sure Bobo agrees with you (LIM). I like the cross pollination of Bodybuilding, and PE principles. I think that everyone has different successes with different techniques. Personally wet jelqs are not doing it for me, but dry jelqs hit the mark everytime.

[Bobo]

Good post, Steve. The most propable reasons for poor gains:

1. Poor technique
2. Overtraining
3. Undertraining (often because of poor technique)

In that order in my opinion. There are other factors too like sleeping patterns, genetics, health, nutrition etc... but those can only slow the gains in my opinion, not prevent them totally. If the technique is good and the intensity at a sane level, anyone can gain, just like at the gym: nobody gets weaker there.

[Shane_Bos]

3. Undertraining (often because of poor technique)

Or because of fear of overtraining maybe. Is it possible that people have different tolerences? Therefore, something thats overtraining for someone could be perfect for another etc. I was wondering since i think i dont train enough as i dont gain on light routines but have done in the past with more intense ones. I never thought i would be undertraining until it hit me about a week ago. I guess im trying to say different things work for different people and you must find what works for you. In my case, intense training, well, intense to a limit obviously.

[Hopper]

Just because someone did or didn't gain doesn't mean you will or won't. Here at CC we can merely point you down the right path, but we can however not tell you what you will find at the end or how long it will take you to reach the end of your journey, but what we can tell you is that we will be there to help you every step of the way. The path is the correct one, of that I can assure you. Should you decide to take it, that is a decision only you can make, and I say this to you. Will you take the road less traveled? :cheeky:

[Hopper]

I don't know but i think i have a way with words. Along with a love for robert frost poems and indiana jones movies :mrgreen

[Steve Madden]

i agree bobo 100%. all this about some people just not gaining because of poor genetics is a little hard to believe. sure some people may be gifted with quicker recoveries, but everyone has at least some potential when the correct methods are in place

[Bobo]

Yep, we're the same species (at least most of us), so physically we simply can't be too far away from each other. The tissue is the same.

[BIGOKE]

Or because of fear of overtraining maybe. Is it possible that people have different tolerences? Therefore, something thats overtraining for someone could be perfect for another etc. I was wondering since i think i dont train enough as i dont gain on light routines but have done in the past with more intense ones. I never thought i would be undertraining until it hit me about a week ago. I guess im trying to say different things work for different people and you must find what works for you. In my case, intense training, well, intense to a limit obviously.
100% agree with you Shane, my experience is identical to yours.

[BIGOKE]

I like this thread, some nice motivation and excellent contributions from everybody. :D :D :D