zwmusic's testimonial

[zwmusic]

I haven't PE'd for ages :x but I'll start with a summary of my progress so far.

My stats when I begun PE:

EL: 6.3"
EG: 5.9"

Stats after 13 months of inconsistent PE (I had several gaps in between which I suppose didn't help my progress):

EL: 7.3"
EG: 6.3" (6.4" at one point but I lost 0.1" with the separate stretching I adopted for over a month).

I've measured recently and my gains are still there. :D

I've manage to gain considerably (about 1" average) in flaccid stat with the separate stretching. I'm considerably hung nowadays.

My routine was simple:

5 mins warm up.
Stretching in all directions (1 min each direction).
Heli shakes in between stretches.
250 wet jelqs with heli shakes in between every set of 50.
20 holds (that I incorporated for a while after about five months).
Another set of stretches with Heli shakes.
Warm down (5 mins).

This routine gave me 1" gain in EL and 0.4/0.5" gain in girth. Nowadays it's quite tricky to get a good OK grip if I'm 100% erect, but I can do with a bit more girth.

I plan to re-start PE with a moderate routine to get the tissue accustomed to PE again and then will move to Synthetic's routine. My goal will be 8.5 - 9.0" length and 6.7 - 7.0" girth.

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One thing I've forgotten to mention was that the incorporated holds were for the specific purpose of correcting that annoying baseball bat shape I had (the base being thinner than the upper shaft). This was a success, my shaft is almost even (still a slight difference between base and middle/upper shaft) but I'll carry on with the targeted holds to try and reverse this, the ideal is to end up with the base slightly thicker than the mid/upper shaft.

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Today (30/08/2005) I woke up with a massive wood and decided to measure since my dick looked quite long... bingo!!!

EL - 7.67"
EG - 6.41"

My official measuring day should be in two weeks time.

Almost 0.4" gain in length and over 0.1" girth in about one month. That's awesome!!! This time PE is working beautifully for me.

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Update (08th March 2006)

EL - 7.8"
EG - 6.46"

0.2" length gain and 0.06" girth. I consider 0.2" instead 0.13" because I had lost a bit some time ago when I stopped for about a month, at the end of 2005. I also had lost those 0.06" girth, but now they're there once again.

That's it for now.

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Update - 17th April 2006 (and the last one for a loooooong time).

EL - 8"
EG - 6.5"

Snizzle my Pizzle!!!

[Bobo]

Good luck for Your new attempt! I hope I too will find enough motivation to start again... then I could complete my PE research too. Maybe I will start soon, who knows... I don't . :x

[ArTee63]

Find the force, you need to do. MMMMMM

[Valk]

Damn, your girth is impressive. Your length is good too buth your girth... :roll:

Hmmm, not really motivating you, am I? :wink:

[wern]

Go ZW!!! Nice to see one of the forefathers back at it.

[zwmusic]

Your length is good too buth your girth... Hmmm, not really motivating you, am I?

Oh yeah! That's enough motivation. "good" isn't good enough for length. I want impressive length as well.

[zwmusic]

Thanks for your replies fellas. Ha! I never thought I would be one the forefathers of this site. :wink:

[Shane_Bos]

Who are the other 3 fathers?

[MagnumXL]

Sup fat dick. :lol: Good girth you got goin for ya man. GL in future.

[Valk]

I respect you and your cock Zwmusic.:mrgreen

Are you gonna perform in the Nipplelands anytime soon? I'm still a classical concert virgin and would love to lose my virginity by you and your orchestra.:mrgreen

[zwmusic]

:lol:

I need to perform in the "Nipplelands" more often. :P

would love to lose my virginity by you and your orchestra.

:shock:

You've been to the pub today, haven't you?

[zwmusic]

Sup fat dick. :lol:

:lol:

It looks a bit better now. Before, length and girth was almost the same so it looked odd (short and thick like a piece of PVC pipe).

[Clockers]

Who are the other 3 fathers?


:? good question.

[zwmusic]

Why 3?

[Clockers]

lol

[BIGOKE]

Hey ZW you want motivation.. swop your dick with mine and I bet you'll PE everyday. :x

:lol:

[Clockers]

I bet your real good there ZW, :mrgreen

[zwmusic]

Oh well, I get the gigs. :wink:

[Clockers]

:wink:

[Shane_Bos]

Why 3?

'Forefathers', and you are one of them...

[Bobo]

:lol: Now I get it! A mighty trick with words there, Sir! :lol:

[zwmusic]

Yeah, I got it... :evil: you're not calling me old, are you?

[zwmusic]

And is it a full occupation? Or do you do other things too?

Yup, it is.

PE. :D

[Valk]

Too bad there arent many career options in PE, uh?:wink:

[wern]

There's the porn industry.


And if you're not in it for the money, theres a fucking competition at some sex shows. I think there is a competition in europe for most men fucked (saw this on a tv show) where women (porn starlettes) compete with each other to set a record of how many men they can fuck in one session. There's hundreds of male participants and about 5 female participants. Rules are - condoms, and man must stop fucking after 1-3 minutes, unless he cums before then.

[zwmusic]

Sounds fun. Let's join in. :P

[tinytim]

hey zw,

how many days a week did you do your routine? Everyday, every other
day, mon - wed - fri etc...

thanks

nice gains too

[Bobo]

I hope to see You here, ZW, before I go tomorrow. I will miss You and many other members here. If You ever need help or just want to say hello, email me (the address in my profile). Good luck with everything, my friend! :D

[zwmusic]

hey zw,

how many days a week did you do your routine? Everyday, every other
day, mon - wed - fri etc...

thanks

nice gains too

Sorry I got here quite late tinytim. I've always adopted M, W, F and weekends off. That's actually what I'm doing now for the second week. It feels good to get back into PE. I actually don't see so many veins busting this time... I think I'm wiser now. :D

I feel I'm getting into it much quicker now. I'm going to switch routines pretty soon... Synthetic's routine maybe... I'm still not sure.

Anyway, that's my second week after a massive break.

Cheers everyone.

[zwmusic]

I hope to see You here, ZW, before I go tomorrow. I will miss You and many other members here. If You ever need help or just want to say hello, email me (the address in my profile). Good luck with everything, my friend! :D

Damn I've missed you my friend... anyway, I know you probably won't read my reply but I wish you all the very best in this new stage of your life. I'll definitely write you e-mails.

[Valk]

I know you probably won't read my reply

I'm not to sure about that, a new member called Bobos#1Fan registered today. :lol:

[tigger23]

You said 30 holds? How long is each hold? And you just do them right in a row, I'm assuming?

[zwmusic]

I'm not to sure about that, a new member called Bobos#1Fan registered today. :lol:

Another weirdo... :lol:

[zwmusic]

You said 30 holds? How long is each hold? And you just do them right in a row, I'm assuming?

20 Holds tigger. Very short ones (about 5 secs each). I'm not doing them right now due to the long brake I had, I'll only start doing them (the targeted ones for the base) after couple of months.

[G-Spot19]

Sounds good ZW. Long Breaks suck. Its hard to get back into PE if you hadnt made a true habit of it before.

[zwmusic]

Yup G, it really sucks. It takes a while before you get the knack of it again but, strangely enough, it seems somehow easier to control erections now, which is great, it makes a day routine go really smoothly.

[wern]

you waiting months before doing holds? Seems a little too long. Maybe you should try doing the following holds:


get 100% erection. Create a an almost tourniquette grip on the base, or close to the base if you want to target it. Allow the erection to subside, but without letting blood out, so that you dick seems like a balloon but you can bend to an extent it with ease. Now hold that for 5 secs, the the next one 10 secs, then 15, 20, 25, 30. Because the dick isn't erect (ie erect enough for penetration of a pussy) there is a much lower chance of injury. At the same time there is even pressure on the chambers.

[zwmusic]

get 100% erection. Create a an almost tourniquette grip on the base, or close to the base if you want to target it. Allow the erection to subside, but without letting blood out, so that you dick seems like a balloon but you can bend to an extent it with ease. Now hold that for 5 secs, the the next one 10 secs, then 15, 20, 25, 30.......................

............................................and then BOOM!!! There it goes my ding. :shock:

J/K. :wink: Thanks for the input wern. But I'll wait another month or so before I tackle holds again.

[wern]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh well, at least it'l make a comical *pop* sound.

[zwmusic]

Just a note.

I'm still at it and quite commited, it's going well so far and I'm sure there will be an update with gains.

[MagnumXL]

Good for you bro. Keep at it and the gains WILL come. Though it is super cliche, I will leave you with this thought.

Rome wasent built in a day.

[zwmusic]

Amen.

[Valk]

Is the car salesman helping you perform your routine? :wink:

[zwmusic]

He's always too pissed to find even his on dick.

[Valk]

Yes, no drinking and PE'ing! :shock:

[zwmusic]

That would be a killer.

[zwmusic]

Petroleum gel is really great. That's the first time I use it (before I used KY and baby oil). KY was ok but I didn't like baby oil. Vaseline is much harder to get off but, appart from being the best lub for wet jelqs, it leaves my skin really really soft. Excellent for pussies. :cheeky:

[G-Spot19]

Aman to that. Its great stuff and has so many uses beyond PE.

[zwmusic]

Today I woke up with a massive wood and decided to measure, even if it isn't my official measuring day which should be in two weeks time.

There it is: :D

EL - 7.67"
EG - 6.41"

[Valk]

Your stats are amazing! Great work buddy. I wouldnt want to cross your path in a dark alley late at night. :shock:

[Valk]

Could you explain your seperate stretching method? Was that just a month of stretching only? I'm doing a similar thing at the moment.

[zwmusic]

Thanks Valk, I think this time PE is working beautifully for me.

During some of those long brakes I had about a year ago, I thought that if I did only one stretching session per day, during my shower, I would be a bit more hung and it worked. I basically popped into the shower, did a warm up for 5-10 mins and then did two sets of stretching (1 min every direction for each set) with 10 secs heli shakes in between every single stretch. Warm down and that was that.

I did that for over a month, every day.

[Valk]

I would be a bit more hung and it worked.

So it only increased you flaccid size? No lenght gains at all?

[zwmusic]

I don't really know what the trick is. I will do a bit of research on that, but although my flaccid stat did increase as a result of this stretching workout, it somehow didn't influence on the EL stat. It remains a mistery for me. I have a guess that continuous stretches will make the part of your corpora cavernosa which is inside the body to come out slightly, but it won't necessarily increase your overall erect length because it (erect length) would be more based on the shaft tissue (outside) and not on the tissue from the suspensory ligaments inwards. That maybe why I have all that scar tissue at the rim of my glans, which should be the replaced tissue for erect lenght.

But, all this is just supposition.

[Valk]

I'm still not sure how that picture the whole ligament and inner penis thing.
Its all a bit confusing.

I did gain erect lenght with a stretching-only routine but I think that has more to do that I'm getting my old lenght back.

[Bobo]

Well, flaccid length and erectlength aren't really the same thing because flaccid length is always smaller than erect. So, basically when flaccid the tissue isn't at its full length capacity because of the lack of blood pressure pushing it all the way. When fully erect, the tissue stretches to its full size by filling up with blood, stretching both the tissue and ligaments to their full length. When flaccid, it's mainly the "relaxed state" of the ligaments that gives the flaccid length. Just like a balloon... when it's empty it's always smaller lengthwise than when it's filled with air. Stretching only the ligaments won't necessarily give erect length gains because it only stretches the ligs and for erect gains the volume of the tissue must be stretched too.

[zwmusic]

Again, it don't know to be honest if I gained a bit EL with that routine, I may have actually, it's just that I lost track of my gains for a while last year.

[zwmusic]

Well, flaccid length and erectlength aren't really the same thing because flaccid length is always smaller than erect. So, basically when flaccid the tissue isn't at its full length capacity because of the lack of blood pressure pushing it all the way. When fully erect, the tissue stretches to its full size by filling up with blood, stretching both the tissue and ligaments to their full length. When flaccid, it's mainly the "relaxed state" of the ligaments that gives the flaccid length. Just like a balloon... when it's empty it's always smaller lengthwise than when it's filled with air. Stretching only the ligaments won't necessarily give erect length gains because it only stretches the ligs and for erect gains the volume of the tissue must be stretched too.

There you are... the master knows. :wink:

[zwmusic]

Few years back I would have never thought I could be so close to having a 20cm cock. Thanks CC. :D

[Bobo]

Damn... I must start PE'ing again.

[zwmusic]

Get you ass back to the rep mode. :wink:

[G-Spot19]

Wow zw. Congradulations my man. Kick ass stats!

[zwmusic]

Strange thing PE. Last year it seemed bloody hard whereas this year things are looking much better.

Thanks G, I'm quite proud to be approaching the stats of one of my motivator, you.

[MagnumXL]

Well, flaccid length and erectlength aren't really the same thing because flaccid length is always smaller than erect. So, basically when flaccid the tissue isn't at its full length capacity because of the lack of blood pressure pushing it all the way. When fully erect, the tissue stretches to its full size by filling up with blood, stretching both the tissue and ligaments to their full length. When flaccid, it's mainly the "relaxed state" of the ligaments that gives the flaccid length. Just like a balloon... when it's empty it's always smaller lengthwise than when it's filled with air. Stretching only the ligaments won't necessarily give erect length gains because it only stretches the ligs and for erect gains the volume of the tissue must be stretched too.


Im sorry I have to disagree 100% with this one Bobo. Stretching the ligaments DOES give you erect lenght gains. Infact it is the quickest ways. Many of those qiuck gainers you see get their early fast gains from stretching those ligs. You are literally pulling MORE penis from the inside of you to the outside.

[Valk]

True, and those lig gains are usually the ones that dissapear the quickest when you stop PE'ing.

[zwmusic]

Im sorry I have to disagree 100% with this one Bobo. Stretching the ligaments DOES give you erect lenght gains. Infact it is the quickest ways. Many of those qiuck gainers you see get their early fast gains from stretching those ligs. You are literally pulling MORE penis from the inside of you to the outside.

Well, you may have a point. As I said, I'll look closer into this before saying anything for sure. I'm sure we can gain by performing only stretches but that would be minimal (our ligs are quite tough and I'd reckon only if you used a penis extender for hours per day you'd have considerable length gains from this).

Once I read an article about penis surgery in which doctors had quite a hell of a task ahead of them. A man had his penis chopped off by a jealous wife and there was almost nothing left outside his body. The surgery comprised in removing as much corpora cavernosa from his pelvis as possible to form a new member. The first step was to "disconnect" the ligs and pull out as much corpora as possible and then reconnect the ligs, replace skin, etc... a hell of a job. It was a success, they managed to restore about 3" of penis. And for someone who was doomed to piss sitting down for the rest of his life, he was quite lucky. But that shows how much corpora can actually be extended from inside of our body.

[G-Spot19]

Strange thing PE. Last year it seemed bloody hard whereas this year things are looking much better.

Thanks G, I'm quite proud to be approaching the stats of one of my motivator, you.

Wow. That touches me. I am glad to know that zw. But at the same time, you and the others here keep me motivated. Keep me going to reach a goal i never thought possible. I appreciate and thank all of you.

On to the subject at hand, zw, that is some story. But all that up in our pelvic region cant possibly be pulled out can it? Not naturally at leat, because of the ligs. Or at least thats what i would think. I do think stretching can yeild gains alone, but not as much as with jelqing. But if stretching the ligs does give such good gains, what about after. as valk said, they will go away. Maybe no completely, but abit. The reason is because a stretched ligament will always go back to its original position and become stronger.

[zwmusic]

I also believe that gains from stretches are the ones to go away the quickest, our ligs are very tough as I learned during my researches. There's a considerable length of corpora inside our body but I think it can only be pulled out with surgery. PE is something alien to the inner corpora, it works only on our shaft. That's why I always believed wet jelqs to be the key exercise of NPE.

[G-Spot19]

I do think some is from the ligs or stretches would be useless and so would hanging(its shit and dangerous but will give length). I think your right about the jelqs being the key though. The ligs just dont work in such a way that they can stretch like that.

[zwmusic]

He, he... don't laugh guys, but what is sore after a PE'ing session isn't my dick any more, but my hands. My shaft seems to be much more resistant than a year ago. My fingers/hands are wide/chunky but not long, and it's getting harder and harder for the OK grip because of the girth gains.

[Anthrax]

Ha... That's what you get for gaining so much... :P

[Tmac 1 LeBron 23]

He, he... don't laugh guys, but what is sore after a PE'ing session isn't my dick any more, but my hands. My shaft seems to be much more resistant than a year ago. My fingers/hands are wide/chunky but not long, and it's getting harder and harder for the OK grip because of the girth gains.


HELL yes, I agree there. My hands hurt so much, especially my wrists, OUCH! Sore :puke:

[G-Spot19]

I agree zw. Now my holds have nothing to do with taking the feeling or intensity or what ever. Its got to do with can I hold it long enough. My hands are tiring easily and i feel pain in my wrist and hands after a little while. Old rugby injury. One of the reasons i want to try out clamping.

[BIGOKE]

COngrats on your gains ZW. Looks like you gonna have to use both hands for an OK grip soon. :shock:

[zwmusic]

I hope not. :shock:

[zwmusic]

I've decided to adopt a new approach.

Now I'm doing a lighter routine 5 on 2 off. It feels better and it takes much less time. I think I can maximize my gains with this approach.

I'll just measure again when I feel it's time to. I'll give Godmas routine a go in about a month time.

[MagnumXL]

I've decided to adopt a new approach.

Now I'm doing a lighter routine 5 on 2 off. It feels better and it takes much less time. I think I can maximize my gains with this approach.

I'll just measure again when I feel it's time to. I'll give Godmas routine a go in about a month time.


5x2 is the shiznizzle my friend. You will see gains gains agains.

[zwmusic]

Yeah, I'm hoping so. A shorter routine feels healed quicker than a longer routine. Even if it's M,W,F weekends off.

[wern]

Amazing gains! I am inspired

[zwmusic]

I would certainly have more if I was consintent last year.

[wern]

:shock:
That's just scary

[zwmusic]

SHIIIIIT! I hate it sometimes. I keep getting more girth than length and I ONLY DO F.U.C.K.I.N.G length exercises. :evil:

Sorry guys but I'm really pissed off.

I've just measured my (average) flaccid and compared with the last stats in my old diary. Last measurement (that was 01/04/2005) said 6.3" FL and 5.1" FG. Now my FL is basically the same - but the variation is upwards instead of donwards, like before - and FG is now 5.5" and pretty solid (almost no variation) which means I must have gained more erect girth than length in the end of the day. I'm always like that, I gain length in the first month or so and then only girth, it was like that before. FUCK!

I'll have to take a break. Better! I'll do like I did before, only stretches for couple of months.

[Valk]

I have more right to be pissed of then you: Your flaccid stats are bigger then my erect stats. :( :(

Doing an all out stretching seems the way to go. Or you could try synthetic jelqs which focus more on lenght then normal jelqs.
I dont believe you can target either girth or lenght with a routine that includes jelqs. It seems to be in your genes which will it target more.

[zwmusic]

You're right Valk, I'm beginning to understand how my body responds to PE exercises. It's due to the fact that I'm cut, 100% sure, there's a boost in length in the first month or so and then I reach a length plateau end it goes only for girth.

I really want to get to 21/22cm in length but, as the chinese saying goes, you should consider 90% as half way through. And this saying is ever so truthful... like most things we want to achieve in life, the last 10% is always the hardest to get.

I'm a hard gainer and, being aware of that, I'm determined to achieve it no matter how long it will take. Tha fact that I'm cut definitely makes it harder for sure. My circumcision was done by a fucking butcher and I bet he's a small timer motherfucker who's got a small ding and... oh fuck him! He didn't leave a fucking trace of frenulum or anything and, on top of that, he left a needle hole in my foreskin perpendicular to my shaft. It's like a hole made for a piercing. When I was a boy it used to get infected all the time and once there was even a fucking bug of some sort which grew inside it. It took moths and months to get rid of that fucker.

It takes a hell of a lot of tugging and stretching to loosen up the skin before I can actually see some gains. But I'm up for the fight. and I'll achieve my goal.

[dividethehate165]

Damn zwmusic, a bug in your dick????

Shit, that just makes me itchy all over even thinkin about a bug growin in my dick...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[zwmusic]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You crack me up. I was a boy though, didn't have much of the dimention of its importance at the time. But I do understand you... oh boy, don't tell me.... scary. :shock: :lol:

[Valk]

I dont consider you a hardgainer at all with your 1.40" lenght gain in 12 months. A hardgainer is someone who only gains like 1/4 inch a year.
You are not an easy gainer but no hardgainer either.
Just because its you're not gaining fast enough for you liking doesnt mean you're a hardgainer. :wink:
You will get there, I'm sure that, and it will make the victory so much sweeter, since you didnt get it for free. :wink:

[zwmusic]

Great words Valk. Thanks for that man. :)

[Wannabe_BIG]

Awesome stats zwmusic, great gains aswell :D

BPL 7,5 * 6 inches girth is my all time goal, and youre allready there, crawing for more :lol:

Maybe a stupid question but, do you make girls orgasm every time you try :P ?

I have set up a goal in my diary, do think its achievable?

Good luck with youre future gains mate!! :)

[zwmusic]

Thanks Wannabe_BIG.

Yeah, girth does give them alot of pleasure. Difficult to say if I give girls orgasm every time, women can be shifty when it comes to orgasm, but I recall many many good times watching them grabbing hold of the first thing close by and going huh!!... ahhh!!... oh my God!!!... yes!!!... when I put my cock in their pussies.

I actually felt quite complimented once when a whore (who eventually became a friend - meaning, no charges :P ... and she was nice... really nice) told me that I gave her a great orgasm the first time I fucked her.

Good luck with your gains.

On a side note, I'll have to slow down PE for some time now I'm affraid. But I'll keep updating my diary when I see some substancial gains.

[Valk]

Now, if that story doesnt motivate me, then I'm lost.

Girth is the Shizznit.

[Wannabe_BIG]

The benefit of good girth is that they`ll actually feel every inch of your penis better than before, ergo your lenght gets bettes use of itself..

Going from 15*12cm to 19*14,5 seems like an impossible quest, the volume change is rather large, but crazier things have been done before? :D

[zwmusic]

Well... I thought I would come here to update my diary with some gains but, fact is I haven't PE'd for over a month and I think I've lost some of the last recorded gains. Never mind. I'll start again in January and put them back on.

That's all for now.

[Bobo]

Good luck for the new start! I'm planning on starting again too, and January would be a good timing because things slow down a bit at the factory. Please remind me of this later, ZW! :wink:

[Valk]

I plan to start still this year.
But for some reason the problem of having a small dick doesnt seem so serious when you got other things on your mind. :neut:

[zwmusic]

Please remind me of this later, ZW! :wink:

Sure I will. I'll send you pictures of HFA (even to your dreams) every time you miss a session. :twisted:

[zwmusic]

I know what you mean Valk. It's all to do with the perspective at which you're looking into the matter. There are times when our priorities have to change so that we can accomplish it.

[Valk]

Well said.

Too bad the real world isnt anything like Matt portraited here (http://www.cheekycherry.co.uk/Main_categories/free_penis_enlargement/penis_guides.html). :wink:

[Bobo]

Sure I will. I'll send you pictures of HFA (even to your dreams) every time you miss a session. :twisted:
I kinda miss that HFA of ours, she sort of became a CC mascot or something. :lol:

[zwmusic]

I know Valk. It does sound so straight foward... cash and carry. Easy, just like that! We are complicated beings, life makes things even more complicated for us. When you're in deep shit PE seems the most futile thing in life. Obviously it's not. Women do have this enormous power of making us feel incredibly vulnerable and hopeless... but then, bigger, MUCH bigger ploblems strike us like lightening and to be honest, to the hell with women and their fucking fancies. They have their independence nowadays, but when you need help and support they're normaly (with some rare exceptions) the first ones to kick the shit out of you to the bottom. The young folks may not have a clue of what I'm talking about... one day they will.

[zwmusic]

Yeah, she did, didn't she. I think you're on drugs or something when you sent me her as a prize. :wink: :evil: :cool

[Valk]

I know Valk. It does sound so straight foward... cash and carry. Easy, just like that! We are complicated beings, life makes things even more complicated for us. When you're in deep shit PE seems the most futile thing in life. Obviously it's not. Women do have this enormous power of making us feel incredibly vulnerable and hopeless... but then, bigger, MUCH bigger ploblems strike us like lightening and to be honest, to the hell with women and their fucking fancies. They have their independence nowadays, but when you need help and support they're normaly (with some rare exceptions) kick the shit out of you to the bottom. The young folks may not have a clue of what I'm talking about... one day they will.



True, thats why I only fuck animals these days. :D

Seriously, I know what you mean. I may not be very experienced but the experiences I had were terrible! :lol:

[zwmusic]

Explain Sir.

[Clockers]

Well... I thought I would come here to update my diary with some gains but, fact is I haven't PE'd for over a month and I think I've lost some of the last recorded gains. Never mind. I'll start again in January and put them back on.

That's all for now.
If it's only been around a month or so you will gain back what you lost in gains pretty quick, so good luck in starting up again next month.. :wink:

[zwmusic]

Thanks Clockie. :D

You're always an upbeat guy, great to hear from you mate. :cool

[Valk]

Even Clockers has a dark side...

[zwmusic]

We all have a dark side, my for example just spoke out loud (to the left side).

[Clockers]

Thanks Clockie. :D

You're always an upbeat guy, great to hear from you mate. :cool
I miss you my friend. :wink:

[Clockers]

Even Clockers has a dark side...



:twisted:

[zwmusic]

Show your dark side to Valk Clockers, go on... :twisted:

[Valk]

I so hope you dont mean his poo-hole :shock: :(

[zwmusic]

Eh? :lol:

[Valk]

His dark hole

[Clockers]

You Wish! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:










I would love too! :puke:

[zwmusic]

Ask him. By the way, he has something for you in the "Please don't tell others about P.E..." thread.

[Edit] You see, there's the answer. :lol:

[Clockers]

I'll be right back.. :D

[Spike]

Yet another thread goes gay. :lol:

[Clockers]

It's not my fault. :lol: :lol:

[zwmusic]

Today, 1st January 2006, I did my first PE workout after a damn long break (BREAK did you read Spike? :lol: ).

Despite my fears, I lost only 0.1" EL and nothing EG. My stats are solid on 7.6" EL and 6.4" EG. Fair enough, since it's hard for me to gain it should be hard to loose. :D

[Spike]

I read. :lol:

t=841

[Clockers]

I'm glad for'ya zw' that you didn't lose a lot really any if you ask me, anyways hope this time around the gains well be better. :wink:

[zwmusic]

Thanks Clockie. This time I'll nail that round number... (8). :cool

[Clockers]

I'm still waiting for that round number..(7) :x

[zwmusic]

You'll get there Clock... you'll get there. You know you've just posted some awesome info on stretches, and believe me they work cuz I saw some great results from stretching alone... keep going my friend.

[Clockers]

Thanks, I will continue till I get there trust me. :cool

[Clockers]

Once I get 7" I will try for 8". :D

[G-Spot19]

The only thing stopping you is you, and i dont think that will be much of a problem for you!

[zwmusic]

Exactly, it takes a lot of commitment, but we'll get there in the end.

[Clockers]

Oh' I'll get there trust me' I have a good plan this time!

[zwmusic]

I think I've managed to get the knack of stretches at last. Nowadays I really feel the traction of each different type of stretch and can pinpoint exactly which part of my penis is being targeted. Still doing wet jelqs and the old heli shakes. Heli shakes in moderation produces a good mild stretch while relaxing the tissue. I'll measure in about a month time.

[Bobo]

Nice to hear You're still PE'ing. I re-started too... couldn't be happier. The long lost motivation is back after 1,5 years! :cool

[zwmusic]

Excellent. This is one more motivational factor for me. Good luck for your return Bobo.

[Bobo]

Good luck to You too, ZW! :cool

[BIGOKE]

Good luck ZW.

[zwmusic]

Cheers BIGOKE. :cool

[zwmusic]

I've been trying to measure for the past few days and I just can't get a full erection... this is frustrating.

I don't know exactly whether this due to the strain on the tissue from PE or whether this due to the mental stress under which I've been through lately.

Anyway, there's a sign which points to some gains. My penis looks bigger and I now can grab it with my two hands although I don't seem to get full erect.

My erection subsides really fast, specially when I'm doing my routine which, in turn, takes longer. Bugger! :x

My hands are 3.5" wide and I can grab my dick (even not full erect) with my two hands and about half of my glans appears. It does give some clues that if I have a full blow erection, almost the whole of my glans will be left out if I grab my penis with my both hands.

My last measurement was 7.6" EL. I'll keep on PE'ing and will measure when things get better (physically and mentally).

Cheers guys.

[The Big Banana]

Is it getting to a full erection then going down, or is it only ever getting to a partial state?

Good luck for your next measurement.

[Clockers]

Good luck buddy. :cool

[zwmusic]

Is it getting to a full erection then going down, or is it only ever getting to a partial state?

Don't seem to get a full erection whatsoever, only partial. Very frustrating.

[Bobo]

That's a clear sign of overtraining, happened to me two years back after some intense stretching and it took three weeks to heal. Take some time off and You'll be ok.

[zwmusic]

I'll take two weeks off, but I've been slowing it down with the intensity for the past two weeks. I'll see what happens. But I'm sure there are some gains for the records, I just don't want to stop abruptly.

[Bobo]

Taking two weeks off won't spoil Your gains, it might even be very benefical.

[zwmusic]

Yup. I'll do that.

[Valk]

Just slow a bit down, you have of plenty time left to get that 20 incher at your 80th birthday.

[zwmusic]

At 80 I might use it to tie around my shopping bag. :lol:

[Clockers]

I'm on my 3th week rest now' starting back again tomorrow though. I think after a good month or two of P'eing, you should take a 2 or even 3 week break to give your'self a good rest' of healing.. :cool

[zwmusic]

You're right Clockie, I've been PE'ing consistently for nearly two months. Time for rest. But I still think that great part of it is really lack of libido due to mental stress.

[Clockers]

Maybe, good point though! :cool

[zwmusic]

Maybe it's time to stop everything and ponder about what to do next. I may have to change direction in life... like they say "when the going gets tough, the tough gets going". And that's what I'll do, get going.

[Clockers]

See'ya! :lol:

[zwmusic]

You twisted bastard. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Clockers]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Valk]

Maybe it's time to stop everything and ponder about what to do next. I may have to change direction in life... like they say "when the going gets tough, the tough gets going". And that's what I'll do, get going.

So whats happening these days? Why a change in direction? Talk to me buddy. :?

[zwmusic]

I'd rather not talk here Valkie. I'll send you an e-mail.

[Valk]

Okay, thats good.

Send it to the hotmail one, cause I dont have access to the other one at the moment.
I also want to ask you some questions, regarding migration.

[zwmusic]

Hmmm, I don't think I have the hotmail one, just wanadoo. Is the name the same for hotmail?

[Valk]

No, its valkchirurg @ hotmail dot com

[zwmusic]

Ok, I can't do it now, but I'll tell you when I've sent it.

[The Big Banana]

Don't seem to get a full erection whatsoever, only partial. Very frustrating.

Like Bobo said, its probably just overtraining or perhaps stress. If it was going up then fizzling down stright away, it could have been veinous leakage which is bad (of course).

[BIGOKE]

Heya ZW
Take L-arg, zinc, vit e for the time that you are not active in PE. It will help recovery. L-arg will also help sort out erections. have a good break.

[zwmusic]

Cheers BIGOKE. You're right, when I was taking those supplements I was definitely healing faster.

[Valk]

Zwmusic, do you notice a decrease/increase in sensitivity of your penis, compared to pre-NPE?
The same amount of nerves are now spread over a larger area thus according to my theory you should notice an decrease in sensitivity.
Also, a bigger dick probably feels different.

[zwmusic]

Valk... the only thing my dick knows nowadays is my hand. :lol:

I will only be able to answer your question in few months time. But I won't forget to answer it when the big time comes. :wink: :lol:

[Valk]

Cmon, dont you have any lady-friends who can make the wait a bit more bareable? :lol:

[zwmusic]

I just don't feel like cheating on my partner. I did it once and it made me feel like shit. I guess I'm becoming a pussy...

[Valk]

Well, you even got a kid (kids?) together so I dont think its the time to be a Don Juan anymore.
Fortunately, you're living the right time and you have the Fleshlight to fall back on.

[Wannabe_BIG]

Seriously, I just don't feel like cheating on my partner. I did it once and it made me feel like shit. I guess I'm becoming a pussy...


Cheating are for loosers. So You have my support!! Only real men and women are able to be faithful and love their partners. Beeing faithful is far more tricky than cheating.

[zwmusic]

Totally agree with that Wannabe. Cheers mate. :cool

[Wannabe_BIG]

Glad to hear :D

With that said, we all make mistakes, but the best people are those who learn from their mistakes..

I had an amazing workout (PE) tonight, don`t know why but I liked it :D

My shaft looked so thick.. :D

[zwmusic]

Okay, I should have updated my diary ages ago.

I've gained 0.2" EL and just under 0.1" EG in the last month.

My stats are now:

EL 7.8"
EG 6.46"

Not bad.

I'll have leave CC for some time from today, but I'll be back. :twisted:

Sorry fellas I wasn't very supportive with your progress diaries lately, but I do have a look around this forum from time to time.

I wish you all the best of luck with your routines and I'll see you fellas in the near future.

Cheerio.

[Spike]

Your visa expired? :lol:

When are you expected back?

[zwmusic]

Ha, ha, ha. :neut: :wink:

I'm actually going back to Brazil (tomorrow) to sort out few things. I hope everything will be fine... I think it will. I'm back in UK by the end of March.

See you Spikey, take care of yourself my friend. :)

[Spike]

So basically you're off on holiday, not a major world tour á la Bobo. :lol:

[Clockers]

Oh' I see now? I'll miss'ya my friend..See'ya soon I hope! :cool

[zwmusic]

So basically you're off on holiday, not a major world tour á la Bobo. :lol:

Basically, yes. World tour is quite hilarious. :lol:

[zwmusic]

Oh' I see now? I'll miss'ya my friend..See'ya soon I hope! :cool

I'll miss ya too, but you won't be rid of me just yet. :twisted: :wink:

See ya fellas.

[Clockers]

--------> See'ya.

[wern]

So all the greats are leaving CC??!?

*starts to pack his bags*

Come back soon ZW!!!! :mrgreen

[zwmusic]

I will. :cool

[Spike]

You did. :lol:

[wern]

What happened with that chick you were meeting up with eh????

[Wendell]

It'd not going to be the same without you being here ZW. Hope to see you back soon.

[zwmusic]

You did. :lol:

You're indeed very observant. :lol:

[zwmusic]

What happened with that chick you were meeting up with eh????

:wink: :cheeky:

I'll tell you all about it when I have more time on the net. See ya fellas.

[Valk]

Are you currently test-driving your new penis on your long-lost girlfriend/wive?

[zwmusic]

Yup, and it's a hell of a drive. I don't remember her having so many orgasms, so fast, and so strong before. I now can really feel her pussy pulsing on my cock when she cums.

[wern]

So is this soul mate of yours the person you were meeting up with?

[demon]

No, it's his right hand. :P

[Valk]

Thats nice to hear buddy.

How long didnt you see eachother before this visit?

[zwmusic]

We lived together for 5 years.

[zwmusic]

So is this soul mate of yours the person you were meeting up with?

That's her.

To answer your previous question wern, we haven't seen each other for about a year and that was the time my dick grew the most. The first day we met we had sex and she went crazy. The first thing she told me when she grabbed my cock was "God, that's much bigger". When I first penetrated her, she grabbed me with alot of strength (she even nailed my shoulder and my back)... it didn't take long for me to feel her pussy pulsing... she said she was coming real hard. It was just great sex.

NPE and CC gave me this. I can only praise CC and be thankful for finding this awesome PE site.

[zwmusic]

Snizzle my Pizzle!!!

EL - sweet 8"
EG - great 6.5"

EAT MY SPUNK! I'VE GOT IT! I'VE BLOODY GOT IT!:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

See ya all in another life.

[Valk]

Eat your spunk? Thanks but no thanks buddy.:evil:

Congrats señior!!

[zwmusic]

Thanks Valk. I'm gonna take a looooong brake from PE. I'll just do a maintenance routine to secure my stats.

Am I a happy man... YES I AM! :D

[ColdShroom]

Shizzle..

Holy phallus Batman! Does it have an elbow? :shock:

Goodness gracious..

[Valk]

How are your stats aestheticly speaking? Is your lenght proportionate to your width?

[zwmusic]

It's way better than it used to be (like a short thick pipe). Aesthetically it makes much more sense now.

[zwmusic]

Shizzle..

Holy phallus Batman! Does it have an elbow? :shock:

Goodness gracious..

:D :D :mrgreen :D :D :mrgreen :D :D :mrgreen

[Clockers]

Congrats zw' I'm glad for'ya! :D

[The Big Banana]

EL - sweet 8"
EG - great 6.5"

Congrats ZW, great gains mate. New guys take note, ZW made excellent gains (All stats are NBP if I remember correctly) but it took quite a while. I believe it was around 18 months of active PE not counting breaks but ZW can probably be more exact.

[Tmac 1 LeBron 23]

Great job ZW, now you only need a mantenience routine coz your dick is massive enough :wink:

[zwmusic]

Congrats ZW, great gains mate. New guys take note, ZW made excellent gains (All stats are NBP if I remember correctly) but it took quite a while. I believe it was around 18 months of active PE not counting breaks but ZW can probably be more exact.

Cheers BB. Yeah, they're NBP. I just wanted to make sure what's there is what actually goes into the pleasure hole.

It took me alot longer than I expected but there they are, and i'm very happy indeed with my dick.

[Valk]

Is it big enough to drink beer yet?

[zwmusic]

Pints and pints. :D

How are you my dutch friend?

[Valk]

I'm doing okay...

Escape is near...:cool

[zwmusic]

Good to hear that Valk. :cool

[ColdShroom]

So is there a 'cementing' routine established?

[zwmusic]

I'm doing a light routine, twice a week to 'cement' those gains. I just can't PE any more for a long while. Fed up with it to be quite honest. Maybe in two or three years time I'll give it a bash again to see how far my dick can go. For now it's just what i wanted. :cool

[zeolite]

Congrats ZW. I thought that I'd be happy when I reached 7'', but I still can't stop doing PE. If you've reached what you wanted then best of luck to you matey. :wink:

[zwmusic]

Cheers zeo. Gains didn't come easy for me, and boy! Am I glad? You bet! :D

[Clockers]

Good job zw..You went from 6.3 in length' up to 8 inches in length..I say not bad! Not bad at all. :wink:

[Valk]

Hola, señor Zwmusic! ¿Qué tal?

Déme dos centrimetros su phallos, por favor.

[zwmusic]

Hmmmmmm... it sounds a gay proposition. Just over 20cm.

[Valk]

I thought you spoke Spanish?

[zwmusic]

And I do. Pero preferia dar usted el respuesta em ingles. Algun problema? :evil:

:wink: :cool

[Valk]

You used usted. Atleast you're being polite.:wink:

But was my Spanish sentence correct? Apart from the word phallos ofcourse.

[zwmusic]

It was OK. Would be more accurate if you said: "deme las medidas de su carajo". "Phallos" is too scientific, but you're a polite man. :wink:

[Valk]

What do you mean by las medidatas? Isnt dos centrimetros more specific?

[zwmusic]

I mean grammatically (sentence structure). "Deme las medidas" is grammatically more correct than "deme los centimetros". If you want to ask for cm specifically it would sound more accurate to say "Cuantos cm de medida tienes su carajo? - or just cuantos cm tienes..." But I'm being a fussy ass. :wink:

[Valk]

Haha, we're having a terrible misunderstanding!:lol:

What I meant to say was: Give me two centimetres of your dick.

Not give me the measurements of your dick.

[zwmusic]

NO! Ninguna posibilidad :lol:

[Valk]

Ah come on! Only two lousy centimetres. You would still have 18 left.:D

Deme dos centrimetros de su carajo. Is it correct now? I need an opening sentence for my trip to the gay-bar this weekend.

[zwmusic]

Hehe... I see now. You forgot the prep "of" or "de". Deme dos cm de su phallos. That's why I didn't quite understand.

[zwmusic]

Deme dos centrimetros de su carajo. Is it correct now? I need an opening sentence for my trip to the gay-bar this weekend.

That's a good opening phrase for a long term relationship. :lol:

[Valk]

¿Como estás?

[zwmusic]

Bien, gracias. Y usted?

I actually had a great night last night, I took this really nice chick from Hong Kong for a drink, one thing led to another and... the sex was great. She is quite tight and, oh boy! She's gorgeous, every time I penetrated her she would grab me really tight and lick me like I was an ice cream... just really nice. :D

[Valk]

Life is the longest thing you will ever do.:lol:

On one hand you're right but on the other hand you're wrong. But I've never been in a situation like yours so dont pay attention to me.

Como se dice?: Dont say usted, say tu. (or something like that)

[zwmusic]

Mui bien senor valk, como estas tu?

When you can't help the situation you have two choices: stay put, moaning about life or live it a bit. It's not that easy to find nice girls who want to take you to bed... I could perhaps read her some stories, wait for her to sleep and then go away feeling virtuous... NO WAY MAN! :lol:

[Valk]

No estoy bien. La lucha es muy difícil. Pedo espero que gano.

[zwmusic]

Entiendo su situacion. Haya un poquito de paciencia Valk y jamas baje su optimismo y positivismo.

[Valk]

Grácias por las palabras buenas, mi amigo.

[The Big Banana]

But you have a wife and a kid!:o

What she doesnt know wont hurt her... as long as ZW wore a condom.

[Valk]

What she doesnt know wont hurt her

That phrase could the beginning of a big debate, but lets not get into that.

[zwmusic]

I've decided to delete my previous posts because my personal life is my personal life, I don't want to dicuss it any more. Nothing against you Valk, but I don't feel like talking about my personal affairs.

[Valk]

Dont think I'm a moralist because I'm not. Its just a subject that has left a bitter taste after some terrible experiences in my short life.

But lets change the subject to something more interesting, shall we?

[The Big Banana]

ZW, if you want me to delete my post as well, just say the word.

[zwmusic]

Which word? SHAZAM! :lol:

[zwmusic]

Its just a subject that has left a bitter taste after some terrible experiences in my short life.

I guess it has something to do with family... parents...?

In this case the best is to...

...change the subject to something more interesting...

as you just said.

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When are you going to Spain after all?

[Valk]

It has something to do with friends, relationships, backstabbin' etc.

I dont know when I'm going to Spain. Its all a bit complicated but I wont bother you with that.

[zwmusic]

I know what you mean. I actually don't have a wife, we're partners and we're both stuck in this situation, I don't know how much longer we'll have to be away from each other. When you're on your own for such a long time you meet people, make friends (not only male friends). We may never see each other again because she doesn't want me to go back to Brazil (and would definitely go back only for her)... I don't see how I can bring her over here in the foreseeable future. I'm in a sort of a limbo, you see, and I'm not going to refrain myself from living a life since my future with my partner is so uncertain. There's always an explanation for everything, I'm not just acting in the spare of the moment... my situation is far from easy.

[Valk]

Why is it so hard to bring her over? Is it because of some bureaucratic shit?

I wasnt judging you, I just dont like the phrase 'what she doesnt know wont hurt her' very much. But your situation is far more complicated than that.
And although I cannot really comprehend the situation you're in, I probably would act the same way.

Good luck mi amigo.

[zwmusic]

Is it because of some bureaucratic shit?

Good luck mi amigo.

That's exactly it, and the shit is deeper than I ever imagined...

Gracias mi amigo.

[hugh g rection]

ZW, I had no idea you had hit your goal man. It was a while back but still, congrats man. I still think the simple routines are the best.

[zwmusic]

As the old master always says: "Less is More".

Thanks Hugh. I'm quite satisfied with my actual stats. It feels great. It is great to have achieved my goal.

[Zoran]

hey ZW, still on maintenance routine? if so what kind of routine is? :cool

[zwmusic]

Well, I did a maitenance routine for about 3 months (a light session once a week). Not doing anything now. But I'm thinking about going back to it at one point next year. I'll take it as challenge to a niner.

[Zoran]

damn man...can your lady take it...:mrgreen

[zwmusic]

Of course, little by little. :lol: :twisted:

[Zoran]

I guess she's used to your mean machine...lol :twisted:

[zwmusic]

I've decided to go back into PE.

Today will be my first workout, for now I'll stick to M, W, F. I have no specific goal, I just want to see how far I can take it...

Here it all starts again.

Stats as for 5th Feb 2007:

EL 8"
EG 6.5"

FL 6"
FG 5"