love Triangle? need advice.

[prjav]

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posting this legend cause its a post from a Pick up artist forum i also go to.

little background info:

im in college. ive been gaming as much as i can but mostly day game. i got a girl im talking to on facebook that ive tried to set up dates with but doesnt agree to them yet shes all over me whe she sees me. i think shes not allowed to go out by her parents or she has another guy. she is another topic altogether.

the important part: im pretty much the Alpha on a group. i always get there early and i get to talk to some people and work on targets. when the semester started i had a target that was pretty much put on a plate for me. we were in the same course a semester before and we talked once the whole semester and nothing more. this semester we have hit it off very well. i established kino the last time we had class(Wednesday of last week) and i did some more today. for the past 4 times we have spent together she has been laughing and gigling like a school girl. she loves the time with me and i know shes having a lot of fun with me. we have class on monday and wednesday. today i was late for class and there was this guy in the spot i always sit at. the guy is tall, good looking, ripped, has good presence and posture and he is pretty much battling me for the alpha status in the room.

The room is packed with hotties and i have to be the Alpha because that way i can see some of those girls somewhere else and approach without problems.

so this girl has seen that i know a LOT of girls or i have made her believe that by greeting all the girls i see that i know, passing by. many of those girls approach me and start talking and IOI me. Some im looking forward to game. others are just tools in my belt.

So this guys stepped over the boundaries and its getting into my terrain. She was also giving him lots of attention because well its a new guy and whatever, may be hotter physically. i saw this HOT, CUTE, SEXY girl that was been giving lots of eye contact and smiling standing in a balcony looking out there and then looking at us 3 talking then out there again. since hb8(the one i knew already) was kinda talking more to the other guy i thought: * hey shes not keeping my attention so its her loss, im going to give her some jealousy and im going to approach the HB10*

i stood up with a stupid excuse about where was the professor office and i went over to the balcony to "look". in the face of the HB8 i stood up and went over, looked around and farkING APPROACHED THIS HB10. she loved it. this is the kind of things that make me happy. she loved it, she went all over and started talking about her life with me and we started looking at each other and starting to meet each other.

i dont want the hb10 because shes the EX of one of my cousins friends and she has twins and shes a "psycho". shes been lovely with me though.


my question is: leaving the HB8(that i really want to Fclose) there, not having much fun with a kinda good looking yet boring guy made her jealous and work harder for me?

does the time ive taken to approach the HB10 work in my favor?

should i abandon the hb10 even when i have kino going, some attraction, rapport, and even a name. i have a name for her nobody has used on her.

with all this do you think ive done good?

how can i be subtle and #close BOTH of them and Fclose the HB8 and do some fun dating on the HB10?

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[Sabin37]

What does "kino" mean?

[prjav]

kino means touching, when you kino-escalate you are working on getting more physical.

[Louberg83]

What does "kino" mean?
kino is any physical contact. Helps to build the connection and drive interest.

[Louberg83]

Haha beat me too it prjav.

I would say go for the one you want, the HB8. Don't worry about the other guy. She very well could be interested in both of you, but if you make the move and #close her he will probably back off.

[w3]

my question is: leaving the HB8(that i really want to Fclose) there, not having much fun with a kinda good looking yet boring guy made her jealous and work harder for me?

does the time ive taken to approach the HB10 work in my favor?

should i abandon the hb10 even when i have kino going, some attraction, rapport, and even a name. i have a name for her nobody has used on her.

with all this do you think ive done good?

how can i be subtle and #close BOTH of them and Fclose the HB8 and do some fun dating on the HB10?

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For your first question;
Yes, you did the right thing.
You showed the bitch that if you ain't having fun, you skip the fuck out and seek out fun. Be it another girl.
You showed her that you are not addicted to her, you showed her you DON'T NEED HER.

Why are you even questioning this?

And on your second question, yes, having other girls can make them competetive.
And most of all, keep you busy, keep you not making the mistake of clinging to one single girl.

By the way, are you obsessing a bit too much about this HB8?
If you want to be a true player, get a lot of girls 'in reserve', pick them up in ridiculous amounts.

Not succeeding in fucking one bitch shouldn't get you down.
WE ALL GET SHOT DOWN FROM TIME TO TIME.
Be it after the first gaze or the third date, yes, even the most pro PUA's sometimes go home empty handed.
No not really, good PUA's always have some girls on an emergency dial.

You have some good things going on, especially if you really are the alpha male in most situations.

I've read some of the articles you find on the internet, with all those flashy terms for touching and fucking a girl.

In the end, it's all very fucking simple;

WOMEN ARE GENETICALLY ATTRACTED TO MEN,
THEY ARE GENETICALLY ATTRACTED TO DOMINANCE.

You take the lead, and they follow.

That is how you put it roughly.
All the kinos, all the #closes, Fcloses, all the flashy terms you put in the middle of that, in the end can make it just so much more fucking confusing to the average joe.

Oh yeah, and as a last note,
you should've fucked that HB10.
Especially if it is a cousin's friend's father's housekeeper's son's ex.

If the HB8 questions you about what you did with the HB10 later that night, tell her that you went out for a walk or shit like that.
If she's jealous, she's already so deep in the game she can't get back up.
All that is left for you to fuck the shit out of that girl, if you got the morals that is.

Since playing with girls emotions for a long time can make them very attached.
This is, put simply, going after a girl for a long time, which here seems to be the case.
Don't get too caught up with one girl! It will only backfire if you put too much time into it;

1. She falls for you, and you only wanted to shoot your shit in that warm thing inbetween her legs.
2. You FAIL. For trying too hard for too long, and blowing your cover.

Sorry for the rant, its been awhile since I was out on the 'field'.. :drool:

[prjav]

thesres a big mistake on my post. the one i want to date is the hb10, its the girl i stood up and started talking to. the hb8 is a girl i want to fuck and shes the girl the guy was approaching and the girl ive been working for this last couple of days.

[w3]

Ok man.
So you wanna date a psycho?
You don't wanna graze the field and be a PUA? (fuck I hate that term.. :lol:)

One last thing I wanna add.

You wanna know what I usually do with girls?

If they feel good, have a good laugh with me, I go out with guns blazing and ask for their number, and arrange something later.

That works brilliantly, they feel magical, because all that happened so instantly.
They thing there is something special in you.

Do not meet one girl too often, make them crave for you on some level.

[prjav]

but ive heard you are a great natural PUA W3. i had to work on many things and got my confidence going to be able to do the things im able to do nowadays. specially since i got divorced and was a little bit green once again. so i had to freshen up things. thanks for the advice.

either way i want to fuck the hb8 the girl ive been talking to and ive met pretty well and i want to keep the hb10 as a regular.....if shes good in bed.

hb10 is the girl i met yesterday. soooooooo hot. Brown skin, perfectly proportioned round ass, cute little angel face. looks like she doesnt break a plate and i want her on my COCK:twisted: constantly

[prjav]

Ok man.
So you wanna date a psycho?
You don't wanna graze the field and be a PUA? (fuck I hate that term.. :lol:)

One last thing I wanna add.

You wanna know what I usually do with girls?

If they feel good, have a good laugh with me, I go out with guns blazing and ask for their number, and arrange something later.

That works brilliantly, they feel magical, because all that happened so instantly.
They thing there is something special in you.

Do not meet one girl too often, make them crave for you on some level.

the psycho is the hb8, i just want to bury my big cock inside her tight pussy(hopefully tight LOL )

[w3]

but ive heard you are a great natural PUA W3. i had to work on many things and got my confidence going to be able to do the things im able to do nowadays. specially since i got divorced and was a little bit green once again. so i had to freshen up things. thanks for the advice.

either way i want to fuck the hb8 the girl ive been talking to and ive met pretty well and i want to keep the hb10 as a regular.....if shes good in bed.

hb10 is the girl i met yesterday. soooooooo hot. Brown skin, perfectly proportioned round ass, cute little angel face. looks like she doesnt break a plate and i want her on my COCK:twisted: constantly Thanks for the flattering! :mrgreen

Yes I always had some kind of magic with girls, and the only reason I've read those articles was out of curiosity, to see if things I was doing were the same methods used by others.

And sorry for the tone I was using, I've found that having a stricter tone helps when I'm trying to help my friends with women issues.

I'm happy to hear that you are doing better!
I myself am still going over a rough patch.
Was so fucking madly in love, it didn't even make sense, especially for a guy like me.
Then I lost that woman, death did us apart, and we weren't even married..
Went to china to get my head straightened, and actually I am feeling a lot better now.

But still couldn't imagine going out to pick up girls yet..
Too soon.

But back to your issue here!

You should've gotten that HB10's number right then and there!
but that is now a missed window, you need another one.
Actually, you should already have both their numbers.

Point is, whenever you need to explain your actions to a girl, it means she feels something towards you.
That will only work in your favor, if you ride that wave, if you grab her and take her to your world.

If she would've started to ask about you chatting up that other girl and getting her number, you could've simply stated that she's just a friend, and you had lost her number way back.

If she turns all psycho and goes to that other girl to find out the truth, maybe it's best that you wouldn't even mess with such a girl.
Imagine how badly she will try to cling on to you after you take her to the seventh heaven?

But I'll forgive you for this, since you are a bit fresh in the field now. :mrgreen
:hug:

And I'm sorry to hear about your divorce.
Some things aren't meant to be, and finding the right one is almost impossible.

[w3]

I've gotta go pretty soon.

I'm gonna say something to you prjav, and for all the others who might be frustrated about similar issues.

Like with NPE, there is not one single technique, not one single line that will work with all the girls all the time.

You can better your chances by being well kept, smelling good, or even being a goddamn Richard Gere.
But in the end, it's about all the millions of strings, and the few right ones you pull.

And I also want to add, that even though you read all the manuals and 'pick up guides', you can still end up failing for the first few times, and actually quitting cos your ego cant take that.

This can be compared to NPE as well, people start, don't get gains, and quit too soon, without even getting anywhere near that routine that might actually bring good gains!

You need a thick skin, and lots of experience with different girls.
And even after all the years of picking up girls, fucking them, your success rate might not even be near 70%.

You know why?
Girls too can have bad days.
They might have their period.
They just might not be in the mood for a stranger to come and chat them up.
I've had some harsh reactions from women, even though I am very successful in general.

'Fuck off.'
'What the fuck are you looking at?'

You need a thick skin.

But it can be fun, the chase.
I love the feeling of going after new prey, it's exciting.

Again I'm rambling..
Let's get back to the point.

Don't get discouraged man, never.
Even the most richest men on earth failed many times before finding the right path.
What made them the richest was simply the ability to not give up, the consistency to try and climb that ladder again, even though they just fell down.

So don't you never give up, even though you might get shot down by BOTH of these girls.
They're just two girls in 3 billion women on earth, why the fuck worry!? :lol:

[w3]

Something just occurred to me.

You know why I never finish that ultimate Pick Up Guide I was writing?

There's no point in calling one sentence a guide.

Girls want boys, go out and play with them.

Actually..
It's all so fucking complex, so fucking messy that I can't push it out of me in a format that pleases myself.
And the bottom line would nonetheless be, go out and meet all the girls in the world.
Only that way you'll turn into a player, if it's in you.

If someone would gather all the bits and pieces of my advice for all the different guys here at CC's, you could make a pretty damn good guide out of all that just by copy paste'ing them after one another. :mrgreen
And I bet it would beat the living shit out of all the other guides 'on the market'.

[prjav]

forgot to add, these girls are taking a class with me so we are always there. i can pull their numbers any time i feel like. but like you said. tomorrow if i feel it with any of them ill pull the #.

thanks a lot for taking the time to help me!!!!

btw im sorry for your loss.

[w3]

forgot to add, these girls are taking a class with me so we are always there. i can pull their numbers any time i feel like. but like you said. tomorrow if i feel it with any of them ill pull the #.

thanks a lot for taking the time to help me!!!!

btw im sorry for your loss.
Sounds a lot better man!

If you feel good, the girl feels good, how the fuck could she ever say no? :wink:

Hey man, thank you for your condolence, everything is a lot better now.
And I always think that everything has a meaning, this was just something that made me even stronger than before. (Like I hadn't been through enough for my age already.. :mrgreen)

Here's something to read for those joining us;
http://cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?p=175501

It's the only Pick Up Guide I've published here, just the first chapter I guess, of something I planned to write.

But in the end, that base is all you need, because everything that comes after that, is what you yourself have built upon that solid base.

Now, I bid you good night.

[w3]

Okay one more thing! :lol::lol:

I just quickly scrolled through some of the posts on that thread.

When people speculate and talk about this sort of thing, it gets complicated.
What a guy should do is close all that out of his mind, and try to find that wave to ride on.

Only experience can bring that, if you weren't born with it.

[prjav]

hahaha I..........................GOT..................A. .........DATE


with the girl ive talk about in the first paragraph. the one that ignored me the first time i asked her out. One thing im not sure of is: shes a "good girl". how can i fuck her brains out without "destroying" her(if shes actually a good girl)?? ohh and without making her feel shes going to be my girlfriend?

i know i wont feel good if i do make her something bad. :icon_rolleyes: i guess im not prime PUA material, i have too good feelings.

i guess this line will be of use: " i think things went too fast, im confused and i dont know what i want with you"

[prjav]

i am the motherfucking MAN. I got the number of the HB10 girl. got her laughing a lot!!!! having a lot of fun. im going to see her tomorrow. this shit is going great. that girl is a beauty. im stoked with my abilities:D

[w3]

I told you man.. :wink:

Now keep your head up, even if you get shot down after these girls!

[w3]

how can i fuck her brains out without "destroying" her(if shes actually a good girl)?? ohh and without making her feel shes going to be my girlfriend?

i know i wont feel good if i do make her something bad. :icon_rolleyes: i guess im not prime PUA material, i have too good feelings.

i guess this line will be of use: " i think things went too fast, im confused and i dont know what i want with you"
Don't think about that too much.

The fact is that girls get emotionally attached to you when you fuck them.
It is the ultimate form of intimacy.

You can't really fight that, even with the most coldest girls you can notice changes after awhile.

What I sometimes used do was tell them I'm not boyfriend material, that I'm only available for sex. Before I had sex with them.
Of course usually, the girls are so attracted to me, that they'll make do with just that part of me.

It can be hard, but that's why I don't fuck one girl too many times.

[Sabin37]

Thanks a lot for your advice, w3. I am fortunate to learn from someone with as much experience as you.

[w3]

Thanks a lot for your advice, w3. I am fortunate to learn from someone with as much experience as you.
No problem man, it feels great to help people!
It is the only thing besides sex and women that make me really feel alive!

As Dr. P-Evil once said;
'You no doubt, live the gospel of confidence my friend.'
And, no doubt, I love to spread the word too.

There's a lot more in my head on this matter, and some of it is scattered around this board. I sometimes have my rambling moments, and that's when some of that good stuff leaks out.

Maybe some day you all will see that Ultimate Guide from me, till that day you'll all just have to make due with the base I've given you. :icon_smile:

[prjav]

TODAY

today i got to see her(hb10). apparently she has been listening to my conversations with hb8 girl(another girl i want to bang and i will with as little effort as possible). on wednesday she asked if i had a book for sale. i did such a nice job in that conversation, i was amazed by myself. I told her i did have the book but i was not selling. her face turned completely and she seemed sad and worried in a matter of seconds. I then told her " you can borrow it" she almost jumped of happyness. i felt so farking good just seeing her reaction. she made my day.

i gave her my #(because i like to do that instead of asking, is she wants she can call, if theres interest she will give me hers) and she asked me to take hers and call her the next day so she could pick the book up. so we meet today. i waited a couple mins for her in a stop in the Uni since she was driving. she arrived and as soon as shes out of the car she completely nullyfied my game. I went dumb by her beauty, she was looking so amazing i was falling in love therehttp://www.puaforums.com/images/smilies/eek.gif . the first thing i blurted was a damn compliment, at least it was a decent one:"you look so elegant". and she did. she was stunning. I can understand now why people talk about the difference of playing the lower numbers and playing these kind of hb9-10 girls. Its so hard to be able to chat these gorgeous girls and game them.

My mind went blank and i had a thought stuck in a look: WOW, WOOOOOW. LOL A couple mins later i was back into semi-game. Beside that i closed badly. We kissed on the cheek twice when i greeted her and as a goodbye. i think i can work my kino the next time we get to spend time together. that will be monday, hopefully we meet before that.

another mistake is that we always share a lot of eye contact. she loves it and i love it. i had my sunglases on and i kept doing my eye contact and she tried but i never took my sunglases off. next time leave them on my car and keep working that eye contact that we enjoy so much.

when we are about the leave i did the most DUMB thing one man can do. she offered me a ride and i farking say NO. We could have talked more, we could have share a more intimate time and i come out and say NO. I felt so much AFC the next couple hours im still suffering from it. working to take that out of my mind.

Another mistake, i tell her, hey you have my #, we can stay in contact, she says "sure we also can share before class" i felt like she tried to tell me DONT CALL ME. damn it i wont. im so scared to do it now.

i think i will start the text game with the successfull: im robbing a bank, u drive or shoot. but since i actually work at a bank and i dont want Sh1t ill say, in a 007 kind of way; I need you to help me in a secret mission, Do you prefer to drive or shoot?
and see how far i can go with that text. I want to talk to her so bad. I love weekends but i cant wait for monday!!!!!

im also scared im falling for this girl. i mean, shes amazing and all but i would prefer and open relationship so i can keep dating and meeting other girls and ....... hahahahahahaha
just as im typing this i remembered somthing David D says in an electronic alarm voice "stop idealizing woman" lol all this typing has made me realize that im idealizing her. she could very well be this AMAZING girl and im going to find out, if shes not i fark and dump and thats it. If she is THIS amazing i may have to make a decision about going serious with her. huuuum........... i got the answer by myself, i magically remembered a local quote, my mind is giving me the answers, so the saying goes like this:
" dont jump the river until you have reach it." means dont get to conclusions and make decisions until the time to made them has arrived.

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[w3]

prjav, I'm sorry but I don't have the time right now to completely answer your post.
I read through it quickly, and I want to say one thing;

Even the most gorgeous girls will make you say 'bleh' once you get enough of them.
And the only way to cure getting bored of a girl, is getting another girl.

Love can be a whole other story, but with the way my brain works, I doubt I'll never really be happy in a relationship.

What I'm trying to say, don't get too stoked up because of her.
If you fall head over heels, and the way you talk to her and act with her changes, she will notice.
And some girls, even if they have feelings for you already, believe it, will give up on you as soon as they smell real interest.
As soon as you are not a mystery, they will move on.

It is always a game, remember that, even though you are a player, you are always being played as well.
But a good player rarely gets played.

And btw..
That is not real love, nor is it connection.
It's the fact that you were just married, and miserable, and finally getting back on the field.
Finding yourself hitting it with a 10 can be overwhelming.

Don't let it wipe your feet off the field.
You're just so fucking horny, so fucking lustful towards this girl, it is messing with your head.
As I previously said, think about all the other girls, and immediately, get someone on the side; That HB8 or some other HB9 or 10.

That is the best cure, and you will notice that the love feeling you were feeling, was indeed just intense lust.

[prjav]

thank you for being my mentor. i couldnt be happier!!!!!! thanks!!

[Apollo]

As Dr. P-Evil once said;
'You no doubt, live the gospel of confidence my friend.'
And, no doubt, I love to spread the word too.

There's a lot more in my head on this matter, and some of it is scattered around this board. I sometimes have my rambling moments, and that's when some of that good stuff leaks out.

Maybe some day you all will see that Ultimate Guide from me, till that day you'll all just have to make due with the base I've given you. :icon_smile:

This may seem silly but I gotta ask, where do you get your confidence from? And I suppose the more relevant question for this forum would be, have you found that having a big dick has given you more confidence in dealing with women, or in life in general?

As I've explored the topic more and more it seems like having a big dick is more than just being able to put more inches inside a woman, but it also gives guys a confidence in all areas of life. As one guy put it, people would tell him "you walk like a guy who has a big dick" as if just knowing what he was packing gave him a swagger that other people (both men and women) picked up on.

I seem to remember your starting size was pretty big, so has your size contributed to you "living the gospel of confidence"?

[prjav]

apollo, i will tell you what ive done to be extremely confident in myself. Like a begginer i still lose some confidence in some situations but im FAR from what i use to be.

I use to be a guy that was unable to hold eye contact. How did i hook this HB10? by holding eye contact and smiling at her every time she came into the floor to wait for the class. i use to see a girl trying to get eye contact and i would look into the floor. thats AFC(Averaga Frustated Chump) behavior. i use to apologize and be the gentle good guy for them. I use to try to be an intelectual when talking to women. I use to be a wreck around women.

One of the most important parts of being confident, and this may sound strange, has been my posture. As soon as i started walking with my head held high, with my chest up, belly down i started to feel confident. Ive become extremely confident in myself. i also stopped using sunglases for other reasons and it has been great cause people can look me straight in the eye now and see that my confidence is real.

Another thing i do is when i get to the Univ. i look around and i say to myself:"all this is yours for the taking. Nobody can mess with you, this is your REALM". That little cheese line whenever you get to a new nightclub/school, any place when you can pick up, will give you confidence. In your house you are the boss, the master, if you manage to get that attitude everywhere your confidence will overflow. Now a days the whole town is mine and its my realm. you get the idea.

About the Dick thing, dont beat yourself up. Yes, when i got my bigger dick i felt like the biggest dick in town but that doesnt guarantee confidence. Theres a whole lot of other things that will contribute to being confident. Doesnt necesarily mean that if you have a small dick(im average by all means but compared to what i had im a monster) you cannot act like you have a monster cock. I can also last longer, i guess that was a big boost of confidence. i use to be a quicky man.

if you need material to help with your posture let me know. either way David Deangelo body language is great and it will help you a lot.

[Sabin37]

Hey prjav, I am also very interested in that body language seminar. Where can I get my hands on it?

[w3]

This may seem silly but I gotta ask, where do you get your confidence from? And I suppose the more relevant question for this forum would be, have you found that having a big dick has given you more confidence in dealing with women, or in life in general?

As I've explored the topic more and more it seems like having a big dick is more than just being able to put more inches inside a woman, but it also gives guys a confidence in all areas of life. As one guy put it, people would tell him "you walk like a guy who has a big dick" as if just knowing what he was packing gave him a swagger that other people (both men and women) picked up on.

I seem to remember your starting size was pretty big, so has your size contributed to you "living the gospel of confidence"? I was 7.9-8"x5.5" when I started PE.
And no that wasn't what made me confident, it was all the shit that beat me down during my teens, and after that.

Through hardship I became what I am today.

I had something that made it impossible for me to have sex, I had phimosis when I was younger and that really hit a nerve.
That coupled with a few other bigger physical issues, I was really unwilling to expose myself naked to a woman.

I also had ridiculous delusions about perfect penis size for women, and in a way I still do.
I have a goal of 11x7, that is a lot.
But I just want it, don't even think its about pleasing girls anymore, coz I can do that in many other ways.

I was always funny, and easygoing with girls, they liked me.
And when I was interested in someone, as soon as they showed interest in me, I totally backed out, never seeing them again.

I was scared.. So fucking scared.
But at the same time I was this super horny teenage boy (who later became a full fledged sex maniac), who just kept on dreaming about all the women I could get, jerking off 10 times a day.

Well, at one point I had enough, and just decided to go ahead and NOT GIVE A FUCK.
I wore a condom over my phimosis plagued dick, and noticed that it helped with intercourse.
But what also happened was that condoms broke more easily, since there was an extra layer underneath the latex layer that was creating friction.

I was a part of the pack always, always the funny guy, made people laugh.
But I lacked the 'radiance' of a leader back then..

Years and years went past, in the beginning I was idolizing a few of my friends who had the reputation of being players.
And in the end, all of my friends, also the guys I looked up to, looked up to me.
Some even tried (and still do) to test me, challenge me, dethrone me.

It was because of what I had turned into.
An alpha male.

It wasn't about being famous for being a notorious ladies man, it was about filling urges.
And it has remained like that till this day.
Although right now I'm not on the field, I feel the time is creeping closer for me to step back into the game.

In real life, I generally don't want to give advice to guys trying to be players because it's cool.
I give it to guys who are just looking for love.

I've had my dry seasons, my seasons of not feeling complete, and those seasons have messed my game up.

I have way too many problems to talk about here, there used to be a lot of personal information here, and I got paranoid so I deleted all that stuff.
Most of it was in my first PE diary.

Bottom line, having a big dick doesn't make you confident.
Because you are just human, and you will constantly doubt yourself in everything.

'Am I good looking enough?'
'Am I good enough in bed for her?'
'Can I last long enough?'
'What if I choke on my first words?'

All those are irrelevant, and things that can be changed to more positive, the latter three can be completely cured as well.
Choking on first words, I've actually used that as an approach.
If you know what feelings to influence, and which strings to pull, you can pretty much just go to a girl and say;

'HI, I LIKE COLLECTING WOMEN'S TOENAILS IN A BUCKET!'

Just have something extra special in the way you say it.. :wink:

And hear it from me;

Having the ability to set the mood in bed is far better than having a big dick.

Why?
Because I've chatted with like seriously +hundred girls about this issue.
They've had bigger dicks than me, and they are very open about such issues because they see me as a guy in the upper hierarchy of cocks.

Well, having great skills in bed is a lot more important than having a big dick.
There's even something after the actual thrusts.
What is that?

Talking.
Setting the mood.
Fucking her mentally, fucking her with your eyes.

There's a lot more to sex than just moving your dick in and out.

That is my most powerful asset.
Even on days I've cum fast, and had a sloppy erection, girls have been calling me like crazy afterwards.

And that confidence you have on the street, you can bring that in bed with you.
Take control of her.
Don't ask her to do doggy, grab her and do the fucking doggy.

Feel out what she likes, being perceptive is also important.

And here I am, rambling..

Do not take this all and try it out at once.
Becoming something of a player can take time, you could end up having a streak of few girls, but after you really get shot down the first few times, that is when the real players emerge.

They get back up, and try again.

[w3]

Guys, I can see this talk about body language seminars and such.

I'm telling you, like I've told you before, those articles and audiotapes, videos whatnot will only get you so far.

If you memorize and follow a goddamn speech pattern or such stupid shit they teach you in all those articles, you'll only find yourself choking when she doesn't respond to you.

Of course reading them doesn't necessarily hurt you.
But I suggest you really take it to heart what I've said.

In the end, if you read all the fucking manuals about being good with women, it doesnt' turn you magically into a godlike player.

What it in reality does take, is experience.
Sure, for some, those guides can be helpful.
If you are really really hopeless with women.

But if you have some kind of understanding in that field, you will learn better by doing.
That actually works in general.

How many of you have learned some skill better by actually trying to do it, instead of reading about it in a book?

Read the books men, but be prepared for the much bigger wall you need to climb over.
That is the wall surrounding you.
The biggest ice ever to break, is the ice over yourself.

[w3]

I use to be a guy that was unable to hold eye contact. How did i hook this HB10? by holding eye contact and smiling at her every time she came into the floor to wait for the class. i use to see a girl trying to get eye contact and i would look into the floor. thats AFC(Averaga Frustated Chump) behavior. i use to apologize and be the gentle good guy for them.
Exactly one of the things I told you about in The Base. :wink:
Hope you are now starting to see what I meant with all that rambling back then. :mrgreen

[w3]

Oh yeah, and prjav, about that previous question you had that I didn't yet answer.

I have a very simple answer.

Don't smother her with phone calls, you both have each others numbers, you can give her a bit distance with the phone thingy, and just casually bump into her in school.

When she gives you a hint, that's your cue.

Of course, these all depend on a lot of things.. There is never a definite answer to such questions.
It's like asking someone what stocks to buy on stockmarket that have a 100% chance of getting your money back multiplyed by 10, in a year.
Impossible.

Try to feel out what she's giving you.
Some girls can be very tricky, and I have a limit on how long to pursue a single woman considering her trickyness.

If you really have to fuck her, this is the reason you need others on the side.
For keeping your head straight, for keeping you from turning into a clingy idiot.

Always keep your distance, always have a mystery surrounding you.
Even if its a tiny one, it'll do! :wink:

[w3]

And I suppose the more relevant question for this forum would be, have you found that having a big dick has given you more confidence in dealing with women, or in life in general?
Simply put;
No.

But there are many levels to it.
It can bring that special magic to things, it is lovely to see a girl gaze upon your dick for the first time, and see that it is in her eyes very huge.

Some play with it like a little boy would play with his fist action man figure, giggling', a bit menacing at times..

Let's say it's a bonus.
What I see as true confidence is the confidence in what you have inside.
The confidence in your personality, your words, just generally your whole being radiates that certain something.

Having the big dick confidence can turn some girls off, since there are many idiots who try to emulate that type of confidence with cheesy shit.

There is a path for all you guys out there, the right path.
You just need to find it.

In life, in NPE, and in confidence.

[w3]

Now I must hurry.
I hope that once again I helped you guys. :hug:

:cheeky::cheeky::cheeky:

[Apollo]

Wow, thanks guys for the feedback. I read every word. A lot of what you are saying w3 makes sense; I can see where you're coming from. And prjav, the concept of "AFC" behavior is interesting... i suppose I've displayed some of these behaviors too at times but never really identified and had a name for them.

But w3, don't worry, I'm not trying to become a player because it's cool. I don't even plan on becoming a player. I've been in a monogamous relationship for almost a year now and I'm happy with it. And I would prefer not to objectify and belittle women in my mind so that I can act differently around them. Maybe women are programmed with these primal urges to respond to that kind of behavior, but I would rather try to treat every person as a person and not some object like an "HB10". That's just me though and I can totally understand how your system works for you. I can see that for you, sex has been at the forefront of your mind even more so than the average teenager, so the need to learn to live this kind of lifestyle is important, so that you can satisfy your urges with many women. I got no problem with that and wish you all the best.


The substance of my question though, which maybe I didn't get across very well, is whether having a big dick gives you more confidence OVERALL, and not necessarily in the pursuit of women. After all, you need confidence in your career, with your coworkers, your friends, acquaintances, etc, not just with women you pursue. And from reading between the lines in your responses I could see that it does to some extent help, but it won't do all the work for you, you really have to build confidence in your mind first.

Because we can always find something wrong with us that will strip away confidence that we would get from any one thing we should be proud of. Like for me, I've always been really cut, really low bodyfat, always have an 8-pack even when I'm not working out. I know a lot of girls really like this and I guess it does give me some confidence but yet still I find myself with a general lack of confidence in a lot of areas that I really need to get through mentally. I think it might be the same with a big dick... yeah it's great and has its benefits but it won't solve all your problems for you.

Anyway thanks for writing such a thoughtful response and helping me understand this stuff a little more :cheeky:

[prjav]

Apollo, having a nice body doesnt turn you into an Alpha Male. Thats the point, to be the Alpha male in every situation.

Also im not trying to become a PUA because its cool, its the fact that i want high quality of women in my life. Theres 1 nice, cool, beautyful girl in every..hundred girls lets say. In order to have a chance to have such a specimen you HAVE to be able to meet a hundreds of girls. I want the best girl i can find so i can enjoy the rest of my life with her. If i want that jewel i have to be able to meet hundreds of women.

Its natural for us MEN to not be able to notice and understand that hidden language, the body language. that was the reason why i wanted to become a master at reading body language. body language is a huge chuck of a interaction with another person, something that i thought was absurd like 58% while voice tone was like 27% and the actual words were less than 10%. I did and i has certainly helped me understand where I am at the moment with a girl.

Many of the seminars ive seen or read are from David Deangelo. He focuses on working on your inner game, fixing the problems of your personality, your person, and becoming a better person so that you can become better with women.

all were found on torrents. I will post a book i read that great on the subject. Its body language by Julius Fast and chapter 7 is all about Indicators of Interest(IOI) and interactions with the opposite sex. Its a great read.

i was fortunate to find one video thats called Stealth Attraction. Its amazing in working with approach and body language. I know what W3 says about experience being more important but i find that having all this knowledge is amazing. gives me a little edge. :neut: now i need more experience.

if i can ill post those videos later and ill post the book so you guys can read it.

[Apollo]

Apollo, having a nice body doesnt turn you into an Alpha Male. Thats the point, to be the Alpha male in every situation.

You're right, having a nice body doesn't turn you into an alpha male. But it's nowhere written that every man should aspire to be one. And I would go even further to say that a man can have self-confidence without trying to be an alpha male.

I did some mixed martial arts training last year when I was unemployed to keep my mind focused and my confidence up when I needed it the most. A big part of what we were taught is that you learn to fight so that you don't have to fight. Having that inner confidence means that you don't have to impose yourself on others to show them you're #1. And this is kind of how I see this "alpha male" talk to be.

My curiosity has been piqued, however, from a psychological standpoint, and if I get some free time I want to try to read some of these articles to understand more fully the psychology behind social interactions.

[prjav]

the beauty of being an Alpha male is that you dont have to fight, work on being the Alpha its that your presence there and you personality will make you the Alpha even when you are not trying.

i went out tonight, did poorly. i guess i need to work this thing a lot more.

the rare thing is that Day Game is great for me right now and im sucking at the night game that its supposed to be the easier of the two.

[prjav]

i went out yesterday with a couple friends. I got to engage a couple sets and i blew every one of them. it sucked.

first i engaged a set of girls from PA. mind that my english is not the best. I did well, started telling her that i will show her to dance reggaeton the puertorican way lol and she was eating it all up until i actually started showing her. she kissed me Goodbye then blew me off. it was awful. then we engaged a 4 set. the girls were like, BITCHES, that were there not having fun and not letting the rest of the people have fun. i tried some of the easy routines like you are the bad girl you are the good girl etc etc and one of them was there to cock block everybody. i neg her, lol told her she was the MOM of the group. that bitch deserved it.

i felt bad about my physique. i think that on night game its very important to be fit, to be able to activate those urges to have just sex with some girls. it was a bad night but i got rejected several times and after a while i know that it will help me thicken my skin.

One mistake i did was that i drank a little too much. next time im out im buying One beer per half hour maximum. i was not as sharp as i should have been. i bet it hurts if i seem drunk.

one thing i saw that could be a great tool to turn off the defensive shields is know about interesting spots in towns or close to some towns so that you can talk about this adventure you had there and turn cockblocks or targets into you.

So 2 cold approaches since i started this. i NEED more experience in night game, thats for sure.

[w3]

prjav, I hate to break this to you.
But this so called night game, as in picking up girls in bars and such, is much harder than 'day game', in which you pick up girls from school, and from public places during the day? Be it a supermarket or a bank.

If you're an alpha in the 'day game', you're far from alpha in the 'night game'.. :neut:

Point here is that all the girls are being picked up by guy after a guy..
And most of the girls out are just there to have fun, not to hook up with someone.
So what do those girls do?

They heighten their security level.
Meaning, they turn much more vicious and turn you down much easier.

However, that is a good place to thicken your skin.

My advice in a bar situation for now (since you lack a bit something in a night game situation), is to just look at all the girls, if one looks back at you, let's say twice.
Two glances, and you're off to her.

Start chatting, tell her a good joke. Something that happened to you works best, since you are memorizing something real, not a line you read from the internet.
Just go to her like she's an old friend, nervousness is the thing that 99% of men have, be very casual, but not overly slimy and 'playerlike'.
If you get her laughing, she will probably ask if you know eachother.

What I'd do is 'Nah.. I don't think so, but you wanna dance?'
If your dance moves are not so good, you shouldn't necessarily do that.

Dancing is another way of attracting girls in a bar.
Especially when I'm sober and putting all I got out on the dancefloor, they start gathering up in flocks. Even though I don't see myself as a great dancer, they like it. :mrgreen

Bars and clubs are a place where there is heavy competition.
Every guy is looking for a girl, and all the girls are getting picked up.
Everyone is putting their best line to use... and best moves.
You gotta stand out there man, you gotta be captivating.

If you get a good laugh out of a girl, and her friends aren't there with her at the moment, you can ask her to come down and go for a cooling walk or something (we all know how hot it can be at a night club!), if your mojo doesn't really work at clubs that is.

If her friends are there, you might not end up in the same bed with that girl later that night, because she is there with her friends..
And girls always have these stupid arrangements of going home together, well, it's safer in a group to walk the dark, quiet city streets.

What you can get in a bar very easily, is a number.
Have fun with a girl for a while.
Dance with her, make her friends laugh.
Then tell her you have to go,

'can we do something this upcoming week, cos I really had a blast with you!'
Or something similar.
She should get the point and give you her number.

I'm glad that you're putting my tips to use man.
Just go out there and get shot down, get flamed.
You'll rise like a phoenix some day, you'll find yourself really owning even the clubs with your presence when you walk in.. :wink:

And as a final thought, in a club or a bar situation, the hottest girls usually leave with the best dancers, or the most captivating guys.
The real alphas.

(If they even leave with anyone!
Depends on the girls personal ethics, but I myself believe that any code of ethics can be broken by certain chain of events.
A smooth flow.)

Of yeah, one last thing.
Good player is a guy who's never really a player in a girls eyes.
They never knew what hit em, until they see you going after another girl... :wink:

[w3]

Because we can always find something wrong with us that will strip away confidence that we would get from any one thing we should be proud of. Like for me, I've always been really cut, really low bodyfat, always have an 8-pack even when I'm not working out. I know a lot of girls really like this and I guess it does give me some confidence but yet still I find myself with a general lack of confidence in a lot of areas that I really need to get through mentally. I think it might be the same with a big dick... yeah it's great and has its benefits but it won't solve all your problems for you. Exactly.

You can still lack in other aspects, you can have zero sense of humor, you can be a total douche and just launching pick up lines after pick up lines to girls with an idiotic voice.

What you're packing won't help you till the girl has it in her hands, of course it looks good, feels good, and still you gotta now how to work it.

And work your words and eyes.

You got what I was saying man.
Ten points and a hug. :hug:

[Frenchcock]

The worst is when you've got, like me, to upgrade all your skills... ^^.

[prjav]

dont worry frenchy you are not alone in this. i had a decent game but im overhauling everything. I want to get to PUA status.

either way im working hard on everthing including my body. if i can look better and make things easier ill do it.

[Apollo]

And work your words and eyes.

I'm really starting to realize how important this is now thanks to this thread.

You got what I was saying man.
Ten points and a hug. :hug:

How about some reps too? :mrgreen

Yeah, I'm a whore :cheeky:

[prjav]

since i want to make things easier on myself i started working HARD on my physique. Im going for the Matador physique. i have a lot of ground to cover but im sure i can reach and i would do anything i can to achieve it(except chemicals).

I have a HIGH social proof in my college. Theres LOTS of girls that are talking to me out of nowhere. On monday i got late to the class where im working on these two girls. another girl(very pretty one too) ill call her HB9 was sitting all by herself and waiting exactly at the spot im always at. i went over to work on the HB10 of course but i saw her today and she passed by the spot i was waiting for another class and she kept the eye contact and smiled at me just like the HB10 did when she wanted me to approach her.

so this is easy, by the end of this week ill approach this hb9 girl and work on her. she used to work at a bakery and she did the same to me while treating others normally. Hopefully i can add her to the list and start gaming her. Theres also one girl that takes TWO clases with me one being my master room LOL. one Tu and Th and another on MON WED, i took a chance and talked to her mid class and she responded pretty well.

Im going to talk about what ive done at my master room so that some of you can try it and see if you get the same results. Im a fucking whore lol. i greet every girl i know without looking needy. Good looking, skinny, fat, ugly, nerd, hb10, you name it. that way i portray that im the nicest guy but im extremely fun around. ALL the girls im working are constantly laughing and having a blast just like me. this obviously builds my image with every single girl that gets to see me there. they all want to share time with me and enjoy as well.

Now i need to turn that Blast of fun into attraction and leave the girls wanting my cock inside of them. With all the IOIs ive gotten from hb10 i guess thats what she wants deep inside her. she told me something on Monday that left me wondering.

We were having fun outside and she told me shes (sarcastically) happy because the proffesor is walking towards us. i Loudly said i was so happy too and i think he heard. when i get inside the classroom i tell her that the proffesor is going to flunk me because of what she made me said earlier.

she responded with: "ill take the responsibility for that" ---- she said it in a kind of sexy cute way and she left me wondering what she actually meant by that.

Also got to talk to a new girl that like HB8 was in a class with me the whole semester and we never exchanged words. shes, lets say HB7 with the ASS of a goddess. Shes thick, i LOVE thick girls. shes also from my hometown. Lots of chances with her.

so i could say that im working on:

The ditch(a girl that not important but that i could fuck)
HB7 ass goddess
HB8
HB9 will approach before friday
HB10 the girl i really, really, really want to get.

i have to be very carefull st valentines is close and poor lonely girls and out theres looking for men like zoombies looking for brains.

[EndorphinMachine]

she responded with: "ill take the responsibility for that" ---- she said it in a kind of sexy cute way and she left me wondering what she actually meant by that.

It could mean she will blow the professor for you:lol:

i have to be very carefull st valentines is close and poor lonely girls and out theres looking for men like zoombies looking for brains.

Nice comparison LOL I bet just so they get a free diner at a nice restaurant:drool:

[prjav]

It could mean she will blow the professor for you:lol:



Nice comparison LOL I bet just so they get a free diner at a nice restaurant:drool:
and a "romantic date with the love of their lives". Fuck that, on sunday i will not come out of my room. Hey in fact, on sunday i will not leave my room(DID not edit it because it was funny, i bet that sunday will be a great day to score some pussy out there). i dont want to expose myself to all that shit out there. Dont want to be influenced by the consumerism.

I hope she didnt meant that endo, i hope she meant she wants to study with me or something, and by study i mean look at each other and talk and flirt and escalate until the inevitable happens.

MAN im looking better and better. im loving doing excercises.

[prjav]

im sorry guys, you will have to read thru my rant.....


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargrrgrgrggrgrgrgrgrggrgrgr grgr

theres a mother F U C K I N G girl cockblocking me. Im so fucking MAD this ugly bitch is trying to keep me off of her friend. Ive tried to talk to her and nothing works, i fucking hate it. i klhuckign hate her, i cant even type straight that bitch is fucking cock blocking me from the girl of my fucking life or at least the girl of this month:twisted:.

so two "weird" things happened ktoday. i had a day off from work so i was able to get there early. i did and my friend came with her friend the cockblock. she kissed me on the cheek and went inside. she was talking to her friend the whole time and i stayed outside until the profesor came. i went inside and i had little to talk to her. so i txt her if she had drank coffee so she would stay awake? she laughed her ass off. out of nowhere just looking at me and laughing and lots of people noticed that i made her laugh. (good for my rep in the group).

the class ends and i take my time and talk to her on the way out. when shes walking i dont know what the fuck i did, i kinda lean and stretched my arm or something and it was weird she got closer and kissed me goodbye and then she left with the bitch. and i went home. later on i text her and she hasnt respond.

Theres something fishy with this girl. Last time a girl did this to me she was hours from becoming somebodys girlfriend. maybe she has a BF. i have to ask but doing so will immediately let her know of my intentions if she doesnt already. i dont know what to do.


i need help with this.

btw the last text said: we should get a group together to study for the exam. I want her to ask us two to study together. This shit is hard. Its pretty hard. This motherfucking day game is fucking punishing. I dont know what the fuck im doing wrong and where the fuck im failing. I have good posture. im well dressed. I make them have lots of fun.


WHERE THE HELL IM FAILING?

i got losts of girls interested in me, i got lots of girls talking and having lots of fun with me, i got like 6 girls im talking to, i got 2 conected via facebook or phone. Do i need to # close more girls than that? do i have to get like 20 phone#s to like fuck one girl?

W3, Friends, i know someone can shed a light here.

[The_Scientist]

Sinn has the best day game stuff that I've seen. Also, have you tried getting with any of the other girls you have numbers for?

It doesn't matter how many numbers you have if you only pursue one.

Also, I only read the last post, but how is her friend cockblocking you? If she is it is totally possible that she has a BF.

If she is only the girl of the month move on and then come back. There are a couple good things that happen because of this I think.

1 : You will chill out after having gotten laid by some other chicks and you will believe in your game more.

2 : Absence makes the heart grow fonder. So maybe by moving away from her she will realize that she likes you or maybe seeing you talk to another chick gets her jealous.

3 : If you are moving forward with other chicks you won't be micromanaging this one interaction. You seem to be freaking out because she hasn't texted you back yet. Seriously, think about how silly that is.

Also, What have YOU done to escalate?

[prjav]

ill have to say that i need to get laid. its been like 2 months now and im starting to feel the heat. what ive been trying to do is to control myself and block every urge. i dont want to seem desperate. and you know the saying: girls smell desperation from miles away.

theres this other girl i think i can hit fairly easy, yumm the thick girl. but i dont have her info and i dont want to look like a creep by "finding" her on facebook even though ive done it before with fair results.

i dont know, i guess i should start to ignore her a bit to see whats her reaction like. work on any of the other 100 girls that have shown interest in me in that room.

i do have to get better looking too. thats the reason why im working so hard because i know that would make my life a lot easier.

anyways yes i think im micromanaging her because she is amazingly beautyful i think i should just keep going. thats it, just keep going and if i get it, i get it.

btw getting her may be losing my chance to be a REAL PUA....shes bad for me, In fact shes in the way, i cannot get her.

[The_Scientist]

Get laid man. I think the problem is that your semen reserves have accumulated and have begun to enter into your brain impregnating you with ridiculous thoughts and a raging hard on 24/7.

[prjav]

its not as easy as it sounds. i have to find a decent looking girl to get laid. maybe not so decent :twisted: i have high standards.

Lower standars now so that you can get laid then raise then to get the hotter girls :drool::drool::drool: i think that when i get to see a pussy ill go like than and faint or she will faint after i pound her for hours LOL.

[The_Scientist]

If you faint just remember to fall face first into her vagina.

[prjav]

If you faint just remember to fall face first into her vagina.

please dont you ever say that kind of comments to a guy on diet. its a painful mental image to fall face first into that delightful thing we call a vagina. :evil::drool::drool:

[w3]

I'm in a fucking hurry once again.

I read through your posts really quick.

prjav.
Man.
Didn't I tell you not to worry about one girl?

You're doing that right now.

'the girl of my life' 'the girl of this month'
There's a big difference, realize that.

I'm just trying to wake you up man, get a lot more going.

Even if she fucking dumps you WHO THE FUCK CARES?
1 out of 3 billion.

I remember talking about lust and such blinding you, that's what's happening.
You need to detach yourself from this girl now, or you'll lose valuable time.

But then again.. Some of us need to learn the hard way.

And The_Scientist is right, get laid man.
Too much testosterone in your gonads atm.

[prjav]

easier said than done. but ill work on it. right know, im pretty confident on my abilities and im ok with the dry spell. nothing that a good half hour jackoff cannot control:D. man i want to go out and my friends dont fucking want to.

[TheGreatDivider1]

OK prjav, I have come out of the shadows especially to help you on this one.

It sound to me like the hb8 in the begining of this forum you simply did not kino soon enough. take a break from her and practice doing that sooner with others,HOWEVER you have to inner game and look within to not BE DESPERATE when you do. I developed a simple zin saying about this... BE WONDERFUL AND DESIRE LESS. Do good things but dont long to be rewarded for them.

Once you develop a natural push-pull sense of personality you will do fine and maybe not have to lean on emulating other PUAs.
*note- it helps to give an IOI after you neg. like a girl i met who was workin on the supports on my boat. I had talked and flirted with her, but made it very appearant i was married and happy. I walked by and triangulated her, asking, " let me guess virgo, gemini, or taurus?" she, smiles back and says " im obviously a scorpio!". To which i smiled and yelled " THANK GOD, she is only half crazy but thats ok youre cool by my book."

Number closing is not hard if you know how to do it properly. I hate to sound like a self help book but there is a pattern i use all the time and it goes.
Distract her with a joke, once you tell 3 jokes or exclamations she will expect the next thing so be the same. ie rule of 3.
You can, readjust her attitude now with a surprise like a ioi or a neg-ioi then FTC and use your favorite number close routine. I loved styles torn paper one and the pretending to type her name into my phone and asking her put it in for me while i point it in at her solar plexus.
NOW most importantly you have to underplay the importance of the number with a neg like, yeah i'll give ya a call when im doing the laundry tomorrow.
I usually text her a joke or question about whatever the hell she was talking about a few minutes after just so she remembers.

After you call her that night just to talk, jokingly while doing laundry or whatever each conversation is somewhat like the initial #close. You work on building and building up her excitement and interest. Not being too sexual.... and closing while she is still wanting an encore.

Happy PUAing!

[prjav]

man i had another HB10 on a plate today and i screwed up. let the opportunity go. this is a gilr that works at the computer lab and shes always smiling and looking at me. she has the most amazing blue eyes ive ever seen. she is gorgeous. so im walking thru an empty hall today and we look at each other and we smile like two idiots and she looks down and looks up again to see if im still looking and stares at me smiling and looking sexy while we pass by each other. i felt so fucking idiot that i didnt open her. so theres like 4 girls that have shown me that interest and that i havent open yet.

its not like i blew it off but i should open those girls. right know i should have those girls #closed and talking to me. well, i have to be more aggressive, i still have some approach anxiety.

[The_Scientist]

On one hand, don't beat yourself up you're still learning. I'm about to restart my journey to PUAness and approaching scares the shit out of me.

On the other hand, beat yourself up about it if it means that the next time you see a hot chick you approach her.

I wish that you lived near me so that we could game together. I woke up one day and realized that all of my friends had completely different lives than me outside of school, had gone away or were completely useless so I need to meet some people in addition to fine ass ladies.

At least you seem to be getting over your "oneitis"

[TheGreatDivider1]

Just follow the 3 second rule.

Within 3 seconds of eye contact open her. odds are she will still make eye cantact the next time you see her. Be forewarned that youre percieved value goes down the longer you stare and dont act upon it

[prjav]

On one hand, don't beat yourself up you're still learning. I'm about to restart my journey to PUAness and approaching scares the shit out of me.

On the other hand, beat yourself up about it if it means that the next time you see a hot chick you approach her.

I wish that you lived near me so that we could game together. I woke up one day and realized that all of my friends had completely different lives than me outside of school, had gone away or were completely useless so I need to meet some people in addition to fine ass ladies.

At least you seem to be getting over your "oneitis"

LOL oneitis. i was thinking that there is no better way to forget and replace a hb10 than with other hb10.:twisted:


Divider- the 3 second rules does not apply here since this is day game at a college. i cannot approach every girl i see here since most will still be here for the next couple of years. if i blow a set here it can work against me in the future. Its very different and i have to be extra careful.

[The_Scientist]

There is a book just on college game and how it is different from normal game. Have you read it? PePe repped it to me a long time ago.

[prjav]

yup, conquer your campus. i did read it. i should re-read it.

[The_Scientist]

You should get off your ass and go talk to some ladies, and I should take my own advice. :wink:

[prjav]

I had a chance yesterday and i played the im so hot and high value im ignoring you girls so i can take you attention.

do you want to guess the results:D......:( should have used an opinion opener or anything

[EndorphinMachine]

So... nothing happened?

[prjav]

as soon as the girls went into the place they were talking about me. and i saw them pointing at me and talking. then my friend went into the bar and they asked him a question, like trying to get us into them and he didnt tell me until later on. they went off and i didnt even try. i was blank. I would have ask anything. im embarrased.

[prjav]

i have this saying stuck in my head:

" the definition of failure is not: not accomplishing whatever you tried, Its NOT trying at all."

[Sabin37]

shes, lets say HB7 with the ASS of a goddess. Shes thick, i LOVE thick girls.

Do you mean thick as in 'intellectually shallow', or thick as in 'a little fat'?

[EndorphinMachine]

LOL he probably loves both:lol:

[prjav]

LOL he probably loves both:lol:
LMAO

i have to say that i agree with this. I mean the girls that have a little extra junk in the trunk, i hate girls that look like a stick. but if she has a little extra tits and ass i dont mind at all.

[Apollo]

i have this saying stuck in my head:

" the definition of failure is not: not accomplishing whatever you tried, Its NOT trying at all."

So you failed once, so what. Everyone fails. Failure is a big part of life. You want to repeat a cliche in your head, try the one that says "success is getting back on the horse one more time than you've fallen off" (or something like that)

:cheeky::hug:

[The_Scientist]

My personal favorite thing to repeat is : "I will not be a bitch."

Try backing out with that one in your head.

[prjav]

the first HB10 i talked about has my number(literally and symbologically). she had me tied in knots today. we spent a LOT and when i say a lot i mean a LOT of time together compared to the other times. when i was in the elevator she came in and she didnt see me, i greeted another girl and she went all over me. we talked for a good half hour, before the proffesor started.

when the class was over i had nothing to talk to her and i went out ahead and the elevator left without her. so i went down and i felt like shit, like i screwed my chance. so i stayed around the elevators in the first floor and using the cell phone when she came out of the other elevator. I told her: "aww you were left all alone" and she had this BIG smile, started walking with me and we just kept talking, she was having a blast, a BLAST i tell you, she was laughing a lot, and i did a key move. in the next couple days i will know if it worked or not.

She hasnt seen much from the island, mostly the well known places, so i told her: Ill take out so you can discover the island. i then had my thinking face on and then i told her that i had a trip on sunday that she could come. she was bummed we were not going to see each other until monday and she told me she will call me in the next days.

ONEITIS once again guys, DAMN that girl is so sweet, cute and fun to have around. :hug:

FUCK, at least im going out tonight, ill get to party all night and score some bitches. :twisted: Also Open bar :P

[JaredK]

My personal favorite thing to repeat is : "I will not be a bitch."

Try backing out with that one in your head.

LMFAO I think that's going to help me in the future.

[prjav]

wheres my mentor mr W3?