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BIGOKE
7th July 2005, 10:13 AM
What the fucks going on now? Fucking bastards!! :evil: :evil:
zwmusic
7th July 2005, 10:13 AM
:?
Shane_Bos
7th July 2005, 10:16 AM
Guess i'll turn on the news.
zwmusic
7th July 2005, 10:17 AM
Me too. At least I didn't hear anything from here (Wembley).
BIGOKE
7th July 2005, 10:18 AM
Just been reported on the radio, confirmed on the internet London underground bombed. Fuckers!
zwmusic
7th July 2005, 10:20 AM
Blimey :shock: good thing I bought a car.
Shane_Bos
7th July 2005, 10:21 AM
Bugger me!! They suspect they were terrorist attacks so they say on the news.
About 6 explosions, one on a bus, others connected to the underground transport links, including Kings Cross. All of Londons transport links are halted. 'Many' casualties apparently.
Shit! I was on the underground just a week ago. Tons of people use it every day.
BIGOKE
7th July 2005, 10:26 AM
I hope they catch the mother fuckers in fact I hope they find them and blow them up. :evil:
zwmusic
7th July 2005, 10:26 AM
SHIT!!! The bombing was worse than I thought. Many injuried and some casualties. I'm glad I didn't have to go to central London this morning.
BIGOKE
7th July 2005, 10:30 AM
This type of thing pisses me off big time! Shit its' like 9/11 all over again. I hate it just plain fucking hate it!!! :evil:
zwmusic
7th July 2005, 10:33 AM
Fucking cowards!!! Terrorists are the scum of 21st century.
Shane_Bos
7th July 2005, 10:33 AM
Just said its almost certainly al kaida (sp?) according to an Arab group monitering Al kaidas actions.
BIGOKE
7th July 2005, 10:52 AM
As far as I can tell its 3 busses and a couple of trains and lots of injured. :cry: I hate it when they target innocent civillians. I mean if you want war then stand up and fight you bastards. Don't hurt innocent people and then run and hide. FUCKING COWARDS!!
zwmusic
7th July 2005, 11:58 AM
London is now coming to a grinding halt. All tube stations are closed and some trains to London are stopping at places such as Reading and as far as that. What can we say... despicable. On the radio they tell us to stay where we are and to avoid coming to central London.
ArTee63
7th July 2005, 12:26 PM
I feel for you guys. Things are getting tight here as well. Subways and public transport are under close watch. I heard some faction of Al-Queda is claiming responsibility.
I'll keep watching....
Valk
7th July 2005, 01:06 PM
Damn, this is really bad. Its the worst nightmare possible: Getting trapped in the subway, not knowing whats going on? :?
Are you in London now, Zwmusic?
Bobo
7th July 2005, 03:41 PM
Those Al Quaeda brainless shit smelling fucking asshole dickless cowardly motherfucker bastards! Put me in a room with a hundred, a thousand... or a million terrorists and I will cut all their throats open without even blinking! Those idiots aren't human beings, and they have no right to live. I know... violence isn't an answer against violence... but there's a limit where human rights end and elimination of bad blood is the right thing to do. I hope they find every single terrorist on this planet and make them eat their own balls (if they have any). Damn... death to them all, You hear!?!? :x :x :x
My deepest condolences to all who died, got injured, or lost a loved one. :cry:
ArTee63
7th July 2005, 03:48 PM
Have terrorist EVER accopmlished their goal?
Does killing so many innocents get them what they want?
I just don't understand what their end objective is and how killing a bunch of people will get them to where they want to be. Senseless. :x
Bobo
7th July 2005, 03:57 PM
Brainless animals... sorry, didn't mean to offend animals... brainless slime with too powerful tools, that's what it's all about. Sorry, slime... didn't meant to offend You either.
Bobo
7th July 2005, 04:07 PM
It's a crazy world we live in... my heart almost explodes when thinking about the pain of those who lost their loved ones, or those who got permanently injured. Hitting military targets or similar would make at least some sense (well not really), but killing innocent people? What the hell...
ArTee63
7th July 2005, 04:09 PM
Maybe they think they can make the genal population uneasy thus soften their target for the final kill. I highly doubt that will happen.
Bobo
7th July 2005, 04:11 PM
Violence has never solved anything, it only causes more violence. A never ending cycle it is, fueled by the clueless human brain that never learns.
ArTee63
7th July 2005, 04:26 PM
Like a true Jedi Master, it is spoken. :)
Bobo
7th July 2005, 04:30 PM
:lol: Speak one can, but listen nobody will.
Valk
7th July 2005, 05:01 PM
I will listen :D
The earth is billions years old, human forms exist for millions of years.
But in one century, we seem to be able to fuck it up completely.
I can't imagine how this planet will be in 100 years time.
Maybe a world of concrete, formed by the ever expanding cities.
Or a world of emptyness, because we went a little too far.
NUKE IT! I SAY! NUKE IT!
zwmusic
7th July 2005, 06:43 PM
Are you in London now, Zwmusic?
Yup, thank christ I didn't have to travel on the tube to Central London today. Yesterday I was in on of the stations bombed (Edgware Road) at approx. the same time of today's bombing.
Valk
7th July 2005, 06:48 PM
Fortunately you're still here with us. :P
Hows the situation now in London? Is the town still shut down Mr. Zwmusic, the CC reporter? :wink:
zwmusic
7th July 2005, 07:05 PM
It's coming back to normality now, but most services won't be running on schedule until tomorrow I think. Commuter's trains from Paddington are the only service more or less on time now. People are still struggling to go back home. Motorways and major roads are completely jammed (much more than usual) as one would expect.
Bobo
7th July 2005, 07:24 PM
It's sad how religions make our world so sick and dangerous.
smooth
7th July 2005, 07:30 PM
It's sad what oil, gold and diamonds can drive a man to do. I say get the hell out of Iraq, Afghanistan, and stop supporting Israel. Fuckers.
Shane_Bos
7th July 2005, 07:47 PM
I will listen :D
The earth is billions years old, human forms exist for millions of years.
But in one century, we seem to be able to fuck it up completely.
I can't imagine how this planet will be in 100 years time.
Maybe a world of concrete, formed by the ever expanding cities.
Or a world of emptyness, because we went a little too far.
NUKE IT! I SAY! NUKE IT!
Its true, if you imagine the world from beggining to end as a clock, and it goes from 12am (when earth began) to 12pm (when it finished), 12 rotations of the big hand and 1 of the small, then humans have occupied the earth for the past 5 minutes. And look at the state of it.
zwmusic
7th July 2005, 07:54 PM
and stop supporting Israel. Fuckers.
Steady on.
wern
7th July 2005, 08:15 PM
It's sad what oil, gold and diamonds can drive a man to do. I say get the hell out of Iraq, Afghanistan, and stop supporting Israel. Fuckers.
smooth, thats quite ignorant of you.
The people that perform terrorist attacks (attacks that kill strangers without prejudice) aren't fuelled by a goal, logic or rational thought. They are fueled by a psyche based on hate and madness, which requires none of the above, and one which we can't possibly fathom. So don't simplify it.
what would you tell the families of the tibetians that were decapitated in Iraq?
ArTee63
7th July 2005, 08:48 PM
smooth, thats quite ignorant of you.
The people that perform terrorist attacks (attacks that kill strangers without prejudice) aren't fuelled by a goal, logic or rational thought. They are fueled by a psyche based on hate and madness, which requires none of the above, and one which we can't possibly fathom.
Amen!!!!!
Clockers
7th July 2005, 11:24 PM
It's so sad that people are born or taught to hurt/kill other people out of madness/rage and hate. :(
oldie42
7th July 2005, 11:30 PM
Artee, terrorists already have what they want. They do this kind of shit to cause mass hysteria and it succeeds every time. They laugh when we watch every step we take hand over foot. Creeping around every corner in fear...they feed off of that. They win every time.
Sorry for anyone who lost a family member or friend...this seems like another 9/11 doesn't it? It will never end until all the motherfuckers are dead.
BIGOKE
8th July 2005, 05:24 AM
They suspect suicide bombers. They motivate them by saying that they are making a sacrifice for their religion and people everywhere. Then they promise their families will be financially supported and that by completing this selfless act of killing and maiming people they will be rewarded in heaven with a hundred virgins. Little do they know that theyre going to burn in hell and going to get fucked by a hundred demons with 20" x 10" penises 24/7.
ownd
8th July 2005, 05:38 AM
It's sad what oil, gold and diamonds can drive a man to do. I say get the hell out of Iraq, Afghanistan, and stop supporting Israel. Fuckers.
jeez im with you but id rather not even get into talking about israel i will get mad.Cant stand them.
smooth
8th July 2005, 07:52 AM
smooth, thats quite ignorant of you.
The people that perform terrorist attacks (attacks that kill strangers without prejudice) aren't fuelled by a goal, logic or rational thought. They are fueled by a psyche based on hate and madness, which requires none of the above, and one which we can't possibly fathom. So don't simplify it.
what would you tell the families of the tibetians that were decapitated in Iraq?
Are you serious? What power do you have to classify one groups killing meaningful and anothers as madness? Is it fine for Israel's to kill innocent palestinian children and count that as casualties of war?But when vice versa its terrorist attacks, barbaric, hate fueled and madness? No, sir it is ignorant of you.
If you rage "war on terror" IE war on these people then it is going to be killings on both ends of spectrum. War isn't pretty. People die, including innocent people. That is the price to pay. There is no reason to be in Iraq, US should stop be hypocrites. Israel is terrorist nation. We are hiding terrorists and not handing them over to Cuba. This is not madness or hate, this is survival and war.
I feel you ownd on the israel thing. I just hate when people act as if the western world is moral and there actions are fueled by justice and the middle east is twisted and their actions fueled by hate.
Bobo
8th July 2005, 09:07 AM
Its true, if you imagine the world from beggining to end as a clock, and it goes from 12am (when earth began) to 12pm (when it finished), 12 rotations of the big hand and 1 of the small, then humans have occupied the earth for the past 5 minutes. And look at the state of it.
Found this on the web, can't remember the source:
The universe is between 10 and 20 billion years old, and the common accepted age is 15 billion years. This is a very long time. To appreciate its depth, let's map the history of the universe into one of our twelve-month calendar years. Our cosmic year begins with the formation of the universe at midnight. Although a lot goes on in the first few months, our galaxy, the Milky Way, doesn't form until May 1 and our solar system is absent until around September 9. Earth forms on September 14 and life originates in late September or early October. The Eukaryotes, the first cells with nuclei, are flourishing by mid-November but most of what we know about the history of life occurs in December. December opens with an increase in oxygen in our atmosphere, a by product of oxygen-producing algae that destroy themselves by overproducing oxygen. The first worms appear in mid-December, and plants begin colonizing the land around December 20. Life enters middle age on Christmas and dinosaurs dominate the next few days. The first primates appear on the December 29th but the first humans don't develop until late evening on the last day of the year, near 10:30 PM. Agriculture is invented with just 40 seconds before midnight, Rome falls with three seconds remaining, and recent history makes up the last second. We are beginning the second year as newcomers to the universe.
Sorry, a little bit off topic... but it's interesting to see how fast human beings have messed things up compared to the evolution history. We're a bunch of morons.
wern
8th July 2005, 10:11 AM
Smooth, UK supports US actions and supports Israel.
smooth
8th July 2005, 06:11 PM
Smooth, UK supports US actions and supports Israel.
What goes around comes around.
Shane_Bos
8th July 2005, 07:08 PM
Death toll now over 50 and roughly 350 still remain in hospital with most of them in a critical condition.
wern
8th July 2005, 10:50 PM
What goes around comes around.
Smooth, terrorism is bad no matter who invokes it or why. I am not defending US/Israel/UK/Palestinians etc. I am saying terrorism itself is evil and the people who invoke it are twisted and evil. This thread is about a terrorist attack that has just killed over 50 innocent people and counting. Your comments suggest that the western world got what it deseved, instead of acknowledging that 50+ innocent people have been murdered. Show some respect.
smooth
8th July 2005, 10:57 PM
I acknowledge that innocent people were harmed and killed and i am sympathetic to the tragedy. However, yes, the western world got what they deserved.
edit*
The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe
wtf? are you serious? everyone talking bout al qaida did it and because of aposting on a web forum from an unknown group calling itself that!!!???? I don't buy it.
zwmusic
9th July 2005, 12:01 PM
Is it fine for Israel's to kill innocent palestinian children and count that as casualties of war?But when vice versa its terrorist attacks, barbaric, hate fueled and madness?
I agree with the fact that Israel isn't doing any good by not pulling out its army from some of those palestinian lands and by retaliating with heavy weapons on innocent people whenever there's a suicidal bomb attack on their cities. But the spectrum is much wider smooth. You don't have the right to call them "fuckers" judging only from the info you receive from the midia. There are good people in Israel (just as well as fuckers, like anywhere in this goddamned planet). By generalizing political actions and taking the whole nation into account by calling them "fuckers" or what not, you are just talking like a terrorist yourself.
BIGOKE
11th July 2005, 06:11 AM
I don't know how Israel and the Palestinians got into the London Bombings. As far as I can see it is the same purpose as 9/11. It is percieved as a war on America and Britain. Osama Bin Laden was pissed with his own country because of their ties to America which were purely for economical reasons. His war should be with his own country who have betrayed what he holds as his own true values. Instead he and his organisation chooses to attack innocent defenseless civilians under the pretence that his religion has been defiled. Outsiders can't defile a religion, and if its that bad then he should change it from the inside. All theyre causing now is hatred for the very thing that they consider most dear to them.
I have a little experience with the same form of terrorism in South Africa a few years ago. There was a radical group which till today is nameless, but which went on a pipe bombing spree over the period of a year or so. One of the places they bombed was Planet Hollywood in Capetown Waterfront. Why because it had American ties. People were killed and many were maimed and the majority of them were South Africans and not Americans. So how did South Africa become a part of this terrorism? It is just madness and senseless killing. Solve the problems at the point of origin and don't take it out on Innocent people no matter the cause. Theyre a bunch of cowards and even if they achieve their cause I will never respect them.
I'm sorry guys but I can't get my heart to ever accept any form terrorism. The Israeli Palestinian war is heartbreaking, but I see Palestinians always provoking violence even when peace is on the cards. Then the Israelis attack them and are villified for trying to protect themselves. Remember that the Palestinian tactic is to hide themselves among women and children and when they become casualties of war the Palestinians use it to cry foul to the rest of the world. If there is a genuine interest in peace then they would have found peace long ago. thats just my take, on it.
BTW did I tell you all
I HATE BULLIES, TERRORISTS, SADISTS, DICTATORS. :evil:
smooth
11th July 2005, 06:07 PM
If the group is nameless, then how can you say it was "islamlic terrorists"?
Who said Osama was behind the 9/11?
Bobo
11th July 2005, 06:27 PM
Seems obvious. Who do You think it was, Smooth? :roll:
wern
11th July 2005, 09:41 PM
Bin Laden is a terrorist. He has claimed responsibility for previous bombings of the World Trade Centre that have killed hundreds. And he is the head of Al-Qaeda which claimed responsibility for many terrorist attacks.
From the Sydney Morning Herald
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/07/10/11cartoon_gallery__550x373,0.jpg
smooth
12th July 2005, 01:52 AM
Seems obvious. Who do You think it was, Smooth? :roll:
They thought it was obvious he did the oklahoma city bombings, look how that turned out.
BIGOKE
12th July 2005, 05:35 AM
If the group is nameless, then how can you say it was "islamlic terrorists"?
Who said Osama was behind the 9/11?
Sorry I forgot to mention that they eventually caught the bastards and guess what, they were all Muslim. But I'm not trying to start a race/religious thing here. My personal feelings are that the act of terrorism is cowardly, and the pain and suffering inflicted on innocent people is unnecessary, and quite frankly I don't care what the cause is they are fighting, as long as they do what they do I will always hate them. And I will back anyone who will stand up to them and eradicate them from the face of this earth.
And by the way Osama did claim 9/11 on several occasions or did you miss that one?
Valk
12th July 2005, 08:12 AM
Look at what I've found. http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm
BIGOKE
13th July 2005, 05:34 AM
So now they say in the news that it was 4 British men of Pakistani descent. Go figure.
zwmusic
13th July 2005, 11:47 AM
Three of them were bloody teenagers...
BIGOKE
14th July 2005, 05:50 AM
Imagine that someone can con you to give up your life before you reach your prime or potential. Someone can con you that to take someone elses life is more valuable than trying to help others who are in desperate need. That life is for taking and not for giving. Imagine spending your whole life plotting death and destruction and then having to hide and move from place to place to avoid being caught. Ever notice that the plotters or architects never blow themselves up but always have some dumb fuck doing the job for them. How sad that is! I'm not super religious but every religion I have encountered so far cherishes the sanctity of life and the sanctity of family. Think of all the families involved here not only the innocents but also the families of the bombers. Can they really feel their sons achieved anything except fan the flames of hatred.
So tell me now ... IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO SUPPORTS THIS SHIT? :evil:
smooth
14th July 2005, 05:05 PM
Imagine that someone can con you to give up your life before you reach your prime or potential. Someone can con you that to take someone elses life is more valuable than trying to help others who are in desperate need. That life is for taking and not for giving. Imagine spending your whole life plotting death and destruction and then having to hide and move from place to place to avoid being caught. Ever notice that the plotters or architects never blow themselves up but always have some dumb fuck doing the job for them. How sad that is! I'm not super religious but every religion I have encountered so far cherishes the sanctity of life and the sanctity of family. Think of all the families involved here not only the innocents but also the families of the bombers. Can they really feel their sons achieved anything except fan the flames of hatred.
So tell me now ... IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO SUPPORTS THIS SHIT? :evil:
kinda sounds like the army. :roll:
Clockers
14th July 2005, 10:35 PM
Three of them were bloody teenagers...
Young And Stupid,
zwmusic
15th July 2005, 01:00 AM
The number of young fuckers doing insane things like that is increasing dramatically in the last decade. What the fuck is going on with our world? Teenagers should be striving to become someone decent, not suicidal murderers.
BIGOKE
15th July 2005, 05:06 AM
Smooth, do you view the London Bombings as collateral damage in a never ending war? Were these bombers part of a army. Do they owe their allegiance to the country they were born in or to the heritage they come from. Are they Martyrs because of their religion or traitors to their country? What are they?
zwmusic
15th July 2005, 08:07 AM
What are they?
Idiots. Insane murderes.
wern
15th July 2005, 02:39 PM
Bigoke, there was a time when acts that can be considered worse than terrorism, such as pillaging and razing cities, was considered morally correct, usually sanctioned by some divine doctrines. All three western religions (Judaism, Islam, Christianity) are guilty of such acts. The Pope himself played a large hand in initiating the crusades. In times like these, those who were opposed to violence were viewed as a radical element. Now it is the other way around.
There will always be a radical element in the society we know. This radical element will view the rest of society as radicals.
The point I am making here (in trying to answer your question to Smooth of "what are they") is that "they" represent a part of man's inherent sociological nature. They are the Yang to society's Ying.
Shane_Bos
16th July 2005, 10:29 AM
Idiots. Insane murderes.
I think you hit the nail right on the head there ZW. Bigoke, I think that you are looking a little too deply into the whole thing. These people were just mental as no person could follow a rational thought process and come out with the conclusion to blow up people.
BIGOKE
18th July 2005, 05:15 AM
I think you hit the nail right on the head there ZW. Bigoke, I think that you are looking a little too deply into the whole thing.
Yup I agree, I'm a touch too touchy on this subject. Signing off.. :neut:
Bobo
18th July 2005, 04:38 PM
No need to do that, BIGOKE. I totally understand Your attitude, after everything You've had to deal with in Your life. Feel free to express Your feelings here if it helps.
BIGOKE
19th July 2005, 05:52 AM
Thanks Bobo
But I think I've said enough about the London bombings now. Have you seen the latest news from Zimbabwe? The crazy fucker is destroying peoples homes in the middle of winter, and calling it "operation drive out trash." His own fucking people! Shit why don't they send someone in there to get rid of him like they did Saddam. This man is beyond insane. My heart breaks over and over. :cry:
Spike
19th July 2005, 08:36 AM
Send a note to George Bush saying Mugabe's got some oil.
wern
19th July 2005, 08:40 AM
LOL that's what I was thinking when I BIGOKE's post this earlier today but I didn't want to say anything :lol:
(even though I don't agree that oil was "the" reason US liberated Iraq)
Spike
19th July 2005, 08:44 AM
Yeah, I forgot to add that Mugabe's going to sell his oil in Euro's.
wern
19th July 2005, 08:48 AM
Nah in pounds.
How do you feel about the Queen, spike?
I see her as a celebrity only. Then again us aussies are renegades.
Spike
19th July 2005, 09:11 AM
I lick her arse every time I post a letter. :P
No, it would be Euro's. In the few short years it's been around it's become the world's second currency, threatening the almighty Dollar.
Saddam with some oil was a small problem.
When Saddam switched to selling his oil in Euro's it became a BIG problem and had to be stopped.
wern
19th July 2005, 11:08 AM
Interesting, Spike. So what does her arse taste like?
zwmusic
21st July 2005, 03:04 PM
Another attack today. Bollocks. :x
smooth
21st July 2005, 03:13 PM
the police are looking for a man described as asian or black. hmmmm
Bobo
21st July 2005, 03:20 PM
These bombs were nowhere near as powerful as the previous ones, so this one is propably some local mad idiot who's seen too many movies and got this idea from the previous bombs. This is what often happens, first some organized idiots with big bombs, and afterwards the local idiots with no imagination copy the same thing.
wern
21st July 2005, 07:54 PM
copycats. same thing happened after 9/11
Shane_Bos
22nd July 2005, 09:09 PM
Aparently they shot a man 5 times as he was running away after his bomb didnt go off. Not too sure what actually happened but i know armed police shot a man dead with links to the bombings :?
smooth
24th July 2005, 12:13 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050723/ap_on_re_eu/britain_underground
shot an innocent man.
Bobo
24th July 2005, 08:07 AM
Yes, he had nothing to do with the bombings. But, in a situation like this, that can happen. In my opinion it wasn't the police's fault they shot him because he was acting strangely and didn't stop when they told him to stop. A suspicious man with a backpack running away from the police in the subway... at times like this when the bombers are reality... what could they do? What if he would have had a bomb in his bag and they wouldn't have shot him? They did as they should to protect the passengers, and it was his own fault they shot him because he tried to escape for some reason. Of course it's a sad thing an innocent man was killed, but he had it coming acting that way in a situation like this.
Shane_Bos
24th July 2005, 12:15 PM
Why would you run? He couldnt have been the sharpest knife in the drawer could he?
Bobo
24th July 2005, 04:03 PM
:lol: He definately was not the sharpest knife in the drawer! Definately. :lol:
smooth
24th July 2005, 05:08 PM
I never heard of him having a napsack.
Say he wasn't the sharpest knife in drawer, spose he was actually mentally challenged and was scared shitless police was chasing him with guns.
An innocent man was killed because police are trigger happy in an evolving police state.
Bobo
24th July 2005, 05:40 PM
I know, and of course it was a bad thing to happen. All I meant was how the hell could the police have dealt with the situation better? It was a sad coincidence that there happened to be a "mentally challenged" man running away from the police there, but then again who's fault was it? Imagine the noise if he would have had a bomb and the police wouldn't have stopped him. In a situation like that, where bombers are reality, a suspicious man in the subway running away from the police is more like a suicide than a mistake by the police in my opinion.
smooth
24th July 2005, 09:44 PM
Bobo, he was being chased by plain clothes cops. How many foreigners being chased with guns will not run for their life?
If you came to NY and was chased by people you couldn't identify as law enforcement telling you to stop would you honestly stop? Id know id run for my life and im from the NY area.
BIGOKE
25th July 2005, 05:53 AM
Bobo, he was being chased by plain clothes cops. How many foreigners being chased with guns will not run for their life?
If you came to NY and was chased by people you couldn't identify as law enforcement telling you to stop would you honestly stop? Id know id run for my life and im from the NY area.
Yeah maybe he was an illegal immigrant or wanted for b&e and thought his game was up and decided to run. I mean the police in the UK are generally not armed, so it is plausible to get away by running. So he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and dressed up like a suicide bomber. Poor bastard. :(
smooth
25th July 2005, 08:17 AM
Dressed up like a suicide bomber?
Did the other suicide bombers from the last attacks wear large coats?I don't recall.
And i am not talking about whether or not british police are usually armed, i said plain clothes cops. IE, cops you don't know they are cops because they are dressed like civilians.
Shane_Bos
25th July 2005, 01:38 PM
He was legally living and working in this country.
Bobo
25th July 2005, 06:45 PM
As I said, it was a sad accident. But, the police isn't the only one to blame, his weird behavior and fleeing did play a "small" role in it too.
smooth
26th July 2005, 12:05 AM
And as i said, fleeing isn't weird behavior when your being chased by people with guns that you don't know are cops.
oldie42
26th July 2005, 02:44 AM
Say...I haven't seen Matt, Goddy, or Spike since this happened :?
Spike
26th July 2005, 07:30 AM
You have now. :cool
Bobo
26th July 2005, 08:24 AM
And as i said, fleeing isn't weird behavior when your being chased by people with guns that you don't know are cops.
I have difficulties in believing that the cops didn't state that they are cops, because it's the standard procedure. At least in my military police training it was very strict: first shout "stop, police", if that doesn't help then shout again and state You will shoot if needed, then shoot in the air as a warning... and if that doesn't work then shoot him. I haven't looked into this matter deep enough to know how the police did act in this case, but maybe You know better? Are You saying they didn't?
BIGOKE
26th July 2005, 12:51 PM
Dressed up like a suicide bomber?
Did the other suicide bombers from the last attacks wear large coats?I don't recall.
And I am not talking about whether or not british police are usually armed, i said plain clothes cops. IE, cops you don't know they are cops because they are dressed like civilians.
I believe he had a backpack and the other bombers had backpacks. That apparently caused the confusion and panic. Anyway who wears an overcoat in summer?
oldie42
26th July 2005, 02:56 PM
You have now. :cool
Yea, I just saw Matt and Goddy in the other thread, now you....hmmm, interesting that you all come back at the same time....have a nice 3 some?? :lol: :lol:
Bobo
26th July 2005, 03:41 PM
I've noticed the same thing, they're often here simultaneously. Fishy... :lol:
oldie42
26th July 2005, 03:57 PM
It's all the same person!! :x
Bobo
26th July 2005, 04:08 PM
One can read, one can write... and one operates the forum tools? :lol:
soserious
16th August 2005, 07:08 PM
this is exactly the kind of reason why ive been on this guys side and not the police`s on this:
Mistakes led to tube shooting ITV News has obtained secret documents and photographs that detail why police shot Jean Charles De Menezes dead on the tube.
The Brazilian electrician was killed on 22 July, the day after the series of failed bombings on the tube and bus network.
The crucial mistake that ultimately led to his death was made at 9.30am when Jean Charles left his flat in Scotia Road, South London.
Surveillance officers wrongly believed he could have been Hussain Osman, one of the prime suspects, or another terrorist suspect.
By 10am that morning, elite firearms officers were provided with what they describe as "positive identification" and shot De Menezes eight times in the head and upper body.
The documents and photographs confirm that Jean Charles was not carrying any bags, and was wearing a denim jacket, not a bulky winter coat, as had previously been claimed.
He was behaving normally, and did not vault the barriers, even stopping to pick up a free newspaper.
He started running when we saw a tube at the platform. Police HAD agreed they would shoot a suspect if he ran.
Story filed: 18:57:15 Tuesday 16 August 2005
smooth
17th August 2005, 08:19 AM
Thanks for the post!
Anyone have any comments?
BIGOKE
17th August 2005, 12:22 PM
You first.. :)
zwmusic
17th August 2005, 01:44 PM
Thank you for that ss. I am quite aware of the stupidity with which the Metropolitan Police acts in London. They are just fucking gross.
BigBadBear
17th August 2005, 05:04 PM
Anyone have any comments?
Fuck the police.
I think that about sums up my feelings on the matter. :x
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