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Baseballer8
26th June 2005, 05:36 PM
This is a thread which its sole purpose it to discuss and debate the merits of using outside items in out PE. These forums have been traditionally against the use of devices but I think they are something which can help the determined PE'er. I no way will this thread be used to advertise, meaning that all the "devices" and suggestions are things which can be made from scratch or are items which have common household use. Now that that is out of the way let the fun begin.



First suggestion is for people doing stretches wrap the cock once or twice with toilet paper as to obtain a better grip.

With many assisted PE devices it is necessary to wrap the penis with a material to secure and protect it. Some wraps used are medical gauze, Thermawrap insulation, swin caps cut up, and whatever you think would work for you kinda like selecting a lube use what works.

Assisted holds (aka clamping) - In my PE journey I have found holds to be the best exercise for girth period, though I found that my hand was limiting my gains. The hand is bulky and tires easily so in reality it only allows a decent hold from about an inch and one half up the shaft for about 30 sec to a minute. Effective - yes, Perfect-no. I decided to use a thick gauge string one day because I had a broken thumb (whole nother story) and couldn't grip my cock. I found using an overhand knot with the penis placed in the loop you could get a great hold at the very base of your penis and it could be held for as long as you pleased and it was very easy to just kegal more blood in as the string restricted mor blood than your hand could. While surfing the net I came across another great idea which was later deemed clamping. It involves the same principles as the string but rather this time you use the cable clamps for hoses (how ironic hoses = penis oh well sorry :lol: :roll: ) These are easily bought at your local hardware store and are oval shaped which helps for a better fit. Make sure they are reversable and reusable.

Hanging - Many people are wondering about hanging but all they have seen are the negative results of a hurt stringy cock, but this is a worst case scenario gone wrong. Hanging has produced benefits for all sorts of people though common sense is needed along with and understanding of your body. You need to know the difference between a stretch and pain. Never hang with pain. There are many hanging devises out there, but they fetch normally greater than $100 so that is a major turnoff to many people, but there is good news because it is easy to make your own hanging device. Although it won't look as professional it will work and who cares because you will be to only one to see it. The simplest makeshift hanging device to make costs about $7. To make it you will need a cable clamp, thin rope, and a thick rag. 1) Take the rag and cover the penis and try to make it thick and tight, mark off where the end of the rag is. Now put three to four holes in the rag where the tag end is and thread the rope through it then tie it off. All in all your rag should look like it was folded over once or twice and then wrapped lengthwise on the cock with the thread end on top. Now attach cable clamp so that the pressure is pulling on the inner penis and not just the skin. You attach the weights at the end of the string.

2) The second and more secure hanging device you can create is modeled after a popular one which sells for $100+. This device is more secure than the cloth rag model but also requires more labor but once all parts have been collected it should only take a few minutes to cut everything and fit. What you need : An S hook, 2 inch section of 1.25" nylon braided hose, 3 inch section of 1.5"-1.75" nylon braided hose, and a cable clamp. Instructions 1) split both pieces of hose opening them up. 2) Lay flat the 1.25" section then cut a V .5" wide and .5 deep this is where the head of the penis will protrude so you may want to round the edges. 3) Lay the 1.5-1.75" section flat and cut the hose from the 2" mark to the 3" mark to form a trapazoid top to it and use a drill to put a hole big enough for your S hook to fit into in the middle of the trapezoid. This is where you will put you hook and weights. To assemble for use first wrap your penis with Thermawrap or medical gauze then place the 1.25" section over your penis with the V at the head and the slit facing the bottom. Then place the 1.5-1.75" section on the bottom slit facing up and clamp them together using the cable clamp, now you are ready

The nylon braided hose is used because it is rigid and semi flexible allowing a more uniform compression so shy away from using flimsy tubing. Also there are some differences people use in this system and one of them is using metal hose clamps instead of cable clamps. Personally I think this to be a stupid idea unless you are absolutely sure of what you are doing because you will not be able to quickly take it off if something goes wrong. Again this may be an alternative form of PE but safety is still critical.


ADS - Another school of thought in PE is a continueous stimulus on the penis to encourage it to grow. This is also know as All Day Stretching. The idea is that if the penis is stretched for several hours a day, even up to twelve hours, it will slowly elongate. There are risks involved in this form of PE also. If the penis is constanly being stretched then there is a chance of blood being pooled in the head and causing tissue death from oxygen deprivation. This is why at least every 15 minutes the device is taken off and and blood is recirculated. To make you own ADS system is easy. All you need is a large O ring, a strap with clip connector kinda like what you use in luggage or camping gear, and a nut for a screw. You put the strap through the O ring then put the nut over the O ring. The strap is then tightened comfortably around the leg and then the penis is put in the noose created by the end of the O ring and the nut and tightened so that it holds but doesn't cut off circulation. It is then worn for however long the user desires.

If you wish to have an ADS which is stronger and pulls more weight then you will need a cable clamp, a drill, bunji cord (like for securing luggage or stuff in the back of a truck, a rag and the same slip together strap from the last ADS. To assemble you first drill two holes through the cable clamp on opposite sides which are big enough for you to pass the hook of the bungie cord. Now wrap your cock with the soft rag or cloth and then clamp it, where it will hold but not where it will cut off circulation. Put the strap on below your knee then run the bungie cord through and hook it up.

With hanging and ADS if you ever feel pain then stop something is wrong. Also make sure you keep good circulation for healing and oxygen purposes. With many of these clamp devices you will notice the head getting very pumped up so you will periodically need to squeeze and drain it. This will also help with circulation. If anything ever turns blue or dark purple you will need to stop because you are about to kill your dick. If in the case it turns black take any and all devices off and run it under hot water or you risk losing your dick. If you pay attention this will never be a problem but there have been times when people have been stupid, so it is something which needs to be addressed.

People sometimes even use devices to help them stretch with their hands so it is a form of a stretching aid but these have so many uses in PE. The next device which I will describe is the Improved Wench, which is my version of a great invention from another forum. It is used as a hanging device, ADS, and stretching aider.

To make this device you will need a little more than a 10 inch section of 2" wide industrial strength velcro (it must be industrial) with sticky back, a Dr. Shoals footpad or similar product, 1-3ft of 1" wide nylon strap, paint stirring sticks from Home depot and a cable clamp. Pull off the covering to the sticky velcro and carefully put a soft side onto a hard side, so this creates a ten inch strip of two sided velcro. Next take the foot pad and cut out two 1"x2" pieces now take some of the paint sticks and fit these on the back till you have a thickness of about 1/4 inch. Now fit some hard velcro to the back of these and round the corners for comfort. Next take the nylon strap which you bought and cut it to one ten inch length and one 36 inch length. Take some soft velcro cut to 1" x 2" and take the back off exposing the sticky side and put on the ends of the nylon strap. Now take the 10" band and lay it flat with the soft side up one inch from the end put the first gripper vertically so it fits from top to bottomand press firmly on it, place the second one 1.5 -2" from edge to edge. The goal is that once it is wrapped around the penis it puts pressure on the side away from the nerves. Now take the straps and place the soft velcro on the hard part of the band directly behind the pads. Wrap it tightly around the penis with the pads on the side of the penis, then put the cable clamp around the whole thing. From this you are able to hang or stretch. The shorter band 1ft is for hanging, and the longer band is for stretching, using your legs is a great way to really put some stretching pressure. For an ADS you just need to wrap it tightly and use the bunji cord previously mentioned. A couple of suggestions though 1) Really rough up the velcro so that it is really pliable or your first couple of experiences will be less than favorable. Also if you want you can groove the pads for better blood flow. The nice part of this device is that since it only grips the sides of the penis it helps with the blood flow and allows you to wear it for a longer period of time once you find the right pad positioning and wrap tension. I chose the shoe soles because I thought they would be better than the original material used and possibly so it can be worn without a wrap but that is for each particular user to decide.

Next is a homemade traction device :D

Bear with me guys this is a work in progress and is hard to describe these contraptions without posting pictures. Pictures will be posted when I make some of them and who knows when that will be with my schedule as it is, volunteers apprieciated. Again more to come once I get more time :cool

MagnumXL
26th June 2005, 06:42 PM
Good post.

Bobo
26th June 2005, 06:48 PM
I'm strongly against using anything else than hands in PE'ing, but it's only my opinion. I only hope nobody gets injured, so be careful, folks!

Baseballer8
26th June 2005, 07:02 PM
Well Bobo as we all know PE is a developing science so there is no clear cut do's and don'ts. Though I will add this as a disclaimer the thoughts I express here are in no means meant to help or hurt anyone, therefore if you make the choice to try some of these techniques and hurt yourself I take no responcibilty and extend no pity to you. If you gain several inches using any of the information provided then I do not care and will not celebrate with you. (actually I will be happy but I have to say that for my own good)


So as Bobo said be careful and goodluck with PE.

Bobo
26th June 2005, 07:07 PM
There's no absolute truth in PE, and those things You mentioned can work for some. My point is there's a bigger risk of something going wrong when You're not in control over the intensity by touch. I don't mean to put Your thread down with my ranting, so I'll just shut up now.

wern
26th June 2005, 07:13 PM
Yep, this is definately something that should be addresses. Good one BB8. The string for holds idea is very good. I'll look into that.

Baseballer8
26th June 2005, 07:16 PM
And you are absolutely right Bobo there is more risk involved but I think it is important to know all aspects of a subject so you gain a further understanding of it. There is no reason to make PE into a procrustean science, we must know the good the bad and the ugly.

I encourage others to voice their opinions about devices and PE and especially experiences with them, no need for names just describe it :wink: , whether they are good or bad lets hear them.





BTW Wern if you use the string make sure it is thick or you will cut yourself. The string I use is a little less than the sixe of your average pencil or pen.

MagnumXL
27th June 2005, 12:44 AM
There are risks for everything you do in life. To minimize those risks, just use common sense.

wern
27th June 2005, 12:54 AM
BTW Wern if you use the string make sure it is thick or you will cut yourself. The string I use is a little less than the sixe of your average pencil or pen.

Actually, I wasn't really thinking when I responded to your post. You see, I have a cock-ring. I made it myself. I can just use that. It is very very good. Impossible to get cut from it as it is made from a plushy stretchy fabric. Thanks for the advice though. :mrgreen

groove champion
27th June 2005, 05:48 PM
There all good points, but how many of you guys have used them and more importantly, have they improved gains? Sorry if this was already said in the original caption, i did miss some text :p

Baller
27th June 2005, 06:08 PM
I heard the yuonger a person is like im 18 does that mean I will have faster of better results then someone who is like 25-30.

wern
27th June 2005, 06:55 PM
it may. There are growth hormones in the body which can aid in penis growth when you use PE. But a younger person may also do permanent damage as they don't know their penis that well and won't be able to feel it out. Probably you are ok at 18-19 though.

clim_1988
29th June 2005, 09:01 PM
is that the only risk of being under 18 though? i figured it may stop the natural growth of the penis... :roll: is that possible?

wern
29th June 2005, 09:15 PM
why would u care clim?

Shane_Bos
30th June 2005, 12:01 AM
Detective Werns on to something

wern
30th June 2005, 02:18 AM
clim_1988. you do the maths

Shane_Bos
30th June 2005, 09:46 AM
Oh yeh :lol:

BIGOKE
30th June 2005, 10:31 AM
Clocks get the banning stick quick... :evil:

Shane_Bos
30th June 2005, 10:18 PM
I dont think Clocks owns one

Clockers
30th June 2005, 10:28 PM
I don't, :(



But i know someone who does. :twisted:

Baseballer8
4th July 2005, 12:43 AM
Alright guys I just made the wench and I am going to start hanging with it to get the prolonged stretch, also those cable clamps make for great girth workouts. :cool

BigBadBear
4th July 2005, 10:37 AM
I'd agree with Bobo's stance on this myself. I'm pretty cautious with my penis and would rather have complete control over how it's being manipulated at all times than give control of this to some sort of device (obviously this criticism doesn't apply to all the devices out there).

Although I wouldn't try other things myself, I can understand why people do and as long as you're careful and use common sense (as has already been said), you'll more than likely be fine.

Baseballer8
4th July 2005, 05:16 PM
Well I used to have the same opinion and then it dawned on me that I could be missing out on some very effective techniques. The original purpose of the post was to inform all the newbies and regulars who constantly chime in with questions such as "does product X work?" so I figured I would give them an alternative to the high cost options and make their own so I they like it great, if not then they are not out of several hundred dollars. Well while doing my research the ideas got to me and I saw some benefits to it. In no way am I saying that the jelq has gone the way of the dodo, but have you ever had your hand cramp and become ineffective while trying to do stretches or wish that you could keep that stretch for just a little while longer but your grip fails? I think that devices certainly have their place in a well rounded PE program. One reason I have decided to start hanging is that I think it is safer than most other PE devices because to stop the exercise you simply lift the weight and you can visually cue into what your cock is going through and moniter its progress. Its also the one form of PE which you can say surf the net or watch TV and not worry too much about what exactly is going on (once you get the hang of it and get your proper settings) I do think there is more danger in traction devices since you are strapped and harnessed in but I will still post how to make one once I get time because other people may want to try.


Also since the nature of this post is to educate and debate PE devices all opinions good and bad are welcome, and personally I would like Oldie to chime in about his pumping and offer some tips for those who wish to start.

Bobo
4th July 2005, 08:41 PM
Good luck with Your experiment. Stay away from injuries... we don't need another sad story in CC.

ownd
8th July 2005, 05:33 AM
LMAo everytime i see this thread i think of an assistand helping you PE.

BIGOKE
8th July 2005, 07:41 AM
LMAo everytime i see this thread i think of an assistand helping you PE.

Me too.. mine is Sandra Bullock :lol:

Shane_Bos
8th July 2005, 07:19 PM
:lol: This reminds me of a South Park episode where this bloke tells everyone hes got aids and tells people how great it is to have aids, and it turns out hes got people helping him out, they are his aids.

Doesnt sound that funny but if you watch it... oh my... piss your pants funny!

Baseballer8
9th July 2005, 12:44 AM
Angelina Jolie helping me out :mrgreen Then again there wouldn't be any PE :o