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Shane_Bos
26th June 2005, 01:27 PM
This diary is for my muscle growth, if you wish to see progress of my dick growth then click here ... (http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?t=26)
Starting stats:
Height = 5'11"
Weight = 150lbs = 68kgs
Left bicep flaccid = 11 inches = 27.9cm
Right bicep flaccid = 11 1/2 inches = 29.2cm
Waist = 33 inches = 83.8cm
Chest = 36 1/4 inches = 92cm
Bench press = 40kgs
Bicep curl = 8kgs
Well ive bought some creatine and some whey protein crap so im all set up to start after my final exams. Ive got one exam tomorow and one tuesday then im done :mrgreen . So I'll probably start my loading phase on the wednesday or thursday and then go to the gym on the friday.
Im going to be taking Creatine monohydrate, which basicaly works by flooding the muscles with water and nutrience. This will give a 'buff' look because of the extra water in your muscles but when you come off it, you will lose your water 'gains' and will be left with the muscle you have built. (Oh Bobo, it contains L'arginine :wink: )
I will take 20g a day of it for the first week (loading period) in 4 5g doses, and then 5g a day after. I will do this for 2 months and during this time i will go down the gym twice a week, probably mondays or tuedays and fridays. After each workout at the gym i will take the whey protein supplement to help the recovery process. On off days, as well as the creatine i will take some more protein stuff but not too much. Just to make up for the lack of it in my diet.
Along with this, im going to try and improve my diet by eating roughly 150g of protein and 300g of carbs a day (its recommended that you eat 1g of protein and 2g of carbs for ever 1lb that you weigh to bulk). This will help me bulk up over the 2 months. By this point i will have gained weight, hopefuly muscle. If im happy with my size then i will stop the creatine and cut the carbs to lose body fat. If im not happy with my size then i will still come off the creatine only i will go back on it after a month as its recommended that you should only stay on creatine for a maximum of 2 months. This is because, your body can only soak up a certain amount of creatine so taking it for more than 2 months would just be a waste of money.
While im doing this im going to have to drink roughly 4 litres of water a day and cut the amount of alcohol i drink to getting tipsy once a week. Plus, ive got to cut back on the amount of chocolate and crap that i eat which shouldnt be too hard as i dont eat too much now.
Wish me luck!
Valk
26th June 2005, 06:17 PM
Dont expect any miracles in two months.
Shane_Bos
26th June 2005, 06:25 PM
Im not expecting any miracles. We'll soon see what happens...
I'll try post some pics of myself in my current state then get some 'after' pics too. No promises though.
wern
26th June 2005, 08:09 PM
expect miracles. I have had some friends use creatine even one lanky guy who went to the gym for 3 yrs and barely gained any weight. Creatine made him get moderate sized muscles but he was so cut it looked awsome. Too bad he couldn't afford to stay on it. Sadly the results disapear when you stop using it, but if you can afford it, power to you. Also this was about 4 yrs ago so it may have gone down in price now. Good luck with it mate.
Shane_Bos
26th June 2005, 09:57 PM
I paid just over £20 for 908g of Creatine Monohydrate. You can buy different types which are more expensive and dont give you the water gains, just the muscle after you've built it, but im a bit poor and couldnt afford that stuff.
Muscle gains are permanent, you just lose the water gains you get from being on the stuff, obviously it takes hard work and a good diet to get the muscle gains too.
I like the words of encouragement :D
Clockers
27th June 2005, 10:41 AM
Good luck Shane, :cool
Shane_Bos
28th June 2005, 12:16 AM
Some information on how creatine works...
Creatine is a natural substance found in most foods, especially meats, however no healthy amount of food can be consumed to get the concentration supplements give.
To understand how creatine works, it's important to know a little about where your body gets its energy from. Just like different countries throughout the world use different forms of currency, your body has its own energy currency. Known as adenosine triphosphate (or ATP for short), it provides energy for every move you make and every chemical reaction that occurs in your body.
ATP is constantly broken down and "re-created". Energy is released when one of the phosphates that form ATP is "broken off". During high-intensity exercise (such as a 60-meter sprint), the stores of ATP are depleted rapidly, and a quick method of reattaching the phosphate is required.
That's where creatine comes in. When your body stores creatine, some of it is attached to a phosphate group. Whenever ATP "loses" a phosphate, creatine "donates" one of its own to support the resynthesis of ATP.
The fatigue you experience during short bouts of high-intensity exercise (such as a 60-meter sprint) is linked with an inability of muscle to maintain a high rate of ATP resynthesis from creatine phosphate. In other words, if ATP is broken down more quickly than it can be resynthesized, you'll run out of energy.
Shane_Bos
29th June 2005, 08:11 PM
I've got good news and bad new im afraid. Which do you want first?
Good?
Ok, the good news is that the pictures of my sexy body have been taken.
Ok so whats the bad news? I hear you cry.
Well, the bad news is that I cant get the pics from my girlfriends computer on to mine. She ran out of blank CDs and hasnt got any floppy discs or the internet.
So what am I going to do?
Im glad you asked. I've been given a key to my girlfriends house for various reasons cos Im one of those boyfriends that get on with partners' parents. So at any time I can go around there with a floppy disc or something and get the pics. However, I am fairly lazy when theres no real incentive for me to do something so this is unlikely to happen unless I'm in her area (which I never am and its about an hour away from my house by bus). So most likely you will see them in about 2 months, when my bird gets back from her holiday :D
Bobo
29th June 2005, 08:13 PM
I hope You took them with low resolution, otherwise the floppy won't swallow much.
Shane_Bos
29th June 2005, 08:22 PM
Wow what a quick reply! I'll take a cd just incase then :cool
Bobo
29th June 2005, 10:42 PM
A good idea that is.
Spike
29th June 2005, 11:20 PM
Or a USB memory stick thing.
Valk
29th June 2005, 11:27 PM
Or email it to yourself :cool
AND THE PRIZE FOR BEST IDEA GOES TO..... VALK!
Shane_Bos
30th June 2005, 12:56 AM
She hasnt got the internet on her computer so to do that I would have to save it to a CD (I havent got a memory stick thing) and then bring it home and then email the pics to myself. Cheers for the suggestions though guys :D
Shane_Bos
30th June 2005, 11:05 AM
Ok, done abit more research and I am going to lower my daily intake to 3g after the loading phase and the loading phase is only going to be for 4 days instead of 5. This is because this is all I need according to my bodyweight. Anything else will be a waste of time and money.
Shane_Bos
3rd July 2005, 02:48 PM
I went to the gym on Friday and had a good workout. Cycled there and back which is 30 minutes each way. When i came out of the gym i looked great! A faint six pack and a generally buff look. It was cool, but a while after the look faded a bit but i still look better. The only problem is, its likely most of it is down to the water retention of the creatine.
My chest now measures 37 inches but i wont know how much i will keep until i come off the creatine in just under 2 months.
Only downside this week is that i played in a poker tournament of 17 players (and came 5th :cool ) and didnt sleep until 6am and woke at 11am. Plus, i drank quite a bit too. It should be cool though.
Clockers
4th July 2005, 02:44 AM
Poker tournament Thats cool use to love playing poker with my buddy. :cool
BigBadBear
4th July 2005, 11:58 AM
Personally, I wouldn't touch any muscle building supplement where the effects disappear as soon as you stop using it. All you really need in my view is a good sports multivitamin, some fish and\or flax oils and a whey protein powder. If you have the money I suppose Creatine is the next on that list as it is known to work well, but only if you know you can afford it in the long run.
Also, something I read about Creatine is that the 'loading phase' is just something that Creatine manufacturers tout as a means for them to sell more Creatine. I'm not sure of the accuracy of this, but it might be worth looking into as it could save you a few quid.
Shane_Bos
4th July 2005, 05:34 PM
The effects dont dissapear. The water retention dissapears but the muscle the creatine has helped you build stays. The amount of muscle gained does depend on other things like diet and how hard you work for it but it just helps a bit (in the way mentioned in a previous post).
As for the loading period, I have heard this and i did look into it. One or two sites said its unnecarssary so i went onto a body building forum and asked. They gave me this explanation...
"loading just saturates ur muscles with creatine quicker.. You can take 5g of creatine for 28 days and be fully saturated.
Or you can just load.. 5g of creatine, 4 times a day for 4 days.. and just take 3g afterwards (about 1/2 teaspoon).. people just use 5g coz it's easier to measure.."
So as i understand it...
Your body can soak up a certain amount of creatine and once its soaked up all it can then you can top it up with a little each day. But, the more you have in you the better it'll work, so, loading it puts more in quicker. On the tub i have it says to take 20g a day for the first 5 days and then 5g-10g daily after that but thats blatently too much. Ive finished my loading period so theres not much i can do about it now but i think its worth it, as on the other hand, you could not go through a loading period and waste money and time as i will stop taking the creatine after 2 months and it would've taken me a month to get saturated so i would only have a month of its full benefits, instead of 2. O wel, we'll see.
Shane_Bos
6th July 2005, 10:06 PM
BUGGER!!
A minor setback....
I was on the bus today when i bumped into a friend of mine, we were talking and i found out he used to use creatine and he says it helped him alot, and hes a bit of built fucker. Anyway, he asked me what type i was using and i told him and he said he first tried this particular type and it did shit all for him. He said that after my loading phase i should look alot bigger than i used to when honestly i really dont. He told me he used this different one and that it worked wonders for him, putting on 10lbs after a week and about 2 stone after 2 months which he kept a stone and half of.
Considering ive put on about 2lbs after my loading phase, im gona give this other creatine a try and see if it gives me better results. I'll buy it tomorow and use it straight away as its the same concept as my current creatine and all creatine is the same, just as you get carbohydrates and proteins.
Time to get back on track...
Shane_Bos
9th July 2005, 10:52 AM
Ok, so this new stuff ive bought is 100% Creatine monohydrate with nothing else shoved in. My old one had other crap like plenty of carbs and a bit of l'arginine and shit. Maybe thats why it didnt work so well. The new one is the same price as the old one, only its for 650g instead of 908g but you take smaller amounts eachtime as the old one i had meant you had to take 30g to get 5g of creatine. Whereas the new one means taking 5g gives you 5g of creatine :D
Anyway, im starting over, so my loading phase started yesterday with 4x5g doses taken with orange juice and i will do this for another 3 days including today. If theres still a bit of creatine in me from the old stuff i was taking then it doesnt really matter cos any excess will just be pissed out. I just dont wana take too little and end up wasting my time and money (assuming this stuff works). And then i will continue to take 5g daily after loading and an extra 5g after a workout.
Oh and i just wanted to say that when i woke up this morning and looked in the mirror, my stomach looked really nice, with slight muscle definition but it'll still be a while before that 6 pack comes :evil:
Shane_Bos
18th July 2005, 10:31 PM
Quick update:
Drank alot over the weekend :x during a night out and another poker tournament (which i won :cool ) but i'll be back to the gym tomorow to burn it off, and ive been working alot so that kind of counts as exercise.
Ive added 10kgs to my benchpress. Now doing 50 which is still pretty poor but ive always had a bit of a pigeon chest, thats where im trying to gain muscle the fastest. Also up to 10kgs bicep curls. Got a comment from my sister saying my upper back looks more muscley/defined too so all in all, good process.
About another 5 weeks to go on the creatine but obviously im still gona work out on my 4 weeks off of the stuff. We'll see what happens.
Valk
18th July 2005, 10:41 PM
50 kg benchpress isnt bad at all. Considering I can only do 35 kg. :x
I hope you do other exercises for the chest too because the benchpress isnt really the king that it is made out to be. I've seen people with an amazing chest who could only press 60 kgs. And I've seen people who could press 120 kg but had a sub-par chest.
Shane_Bos
18th July 2005, 11:42 PM
Yeh i do 'flyes (http://www.theministryoffitness.com/mof/library/anims/inflyes.htm)' and maybe a go on the butterfly/pec dec machine i think they call it or maybe some push ups but i try not to over do it.
50kgs is my max though. I do reps on 40 and 45. I only tried 50kgs cos i was curious how much i could press, i may be able to do 55 but i had already worked on my chest so my pecs were a little shattered when doing the 50kgs and didnt want to try more as i dont want to injure myself.
BIGOKE
19th July 2005, 08:49 AM
The weight dosen't matter ShaneBos its your shape and form of the excercise you perform. I have achieved much better gains than a lot of my contempories using lower weights. While I'm not weak I can't seem to get as much strength as other guys. So I push about 20-30% less than them but because I have good form I look 20-30% better than them. You and Valk are doing alright. Take it slow and it will grow. :cool
Shane_Bos
12th August 2005, 12:51 AM
Ive decided to cut my creatine cycle early. Ive seen good results with it. I look bigger and can lift more. But im ill, i got a summer cold and have had it for the past 2 weeks :( So its making training hard so im just gona stop for now anfter about 5 weeks and start taking some L'arginine and L'ornithine to help lose some body fat, get rid of this damn cold and also help with my training as im still going to go to the gym twice a week.
I go on holiday on the Septemeber 1st and when i get back i will start back on the creatine but this time i wont buy the monohydrate. Im going to get 'creatine ethyl ester' or 'CEE' which is kind of the same only it doesnt rely on the use of insulin for its uptake and is therefore absorbed alot quicker. You dont get the water retention like you do with monohydrate either. Ive done alot of research on it and have read lots of possitive reviews from body builders on forums that have said its given great results when monohydrate has done nothing for them previously.
So thats my current bulking status. I will get pictures from before and after the creatine when my bird gets back on the 28th of August and hopefully before i go on my holiday.
BIGOKE
12th August 2005, 08:42 AM
Nice to see you making progress Shane, good one. :D
G-Spot19
13th August 2005, 06:53 AM
A small tip. I would reccomend you get a NO2 supplement. Dialates the blood vessels and allows more oxygen enriched blood to get to your muslces. My guns have gotten rock hard(not to mention my boners) since taking this stuff.
Shane_Bos
13th August 2005, 12:05 PM
Cheers, i'll look into that G :D
Just bought some L'arginine but they didnt have L'ornithine either seperate or in mixed caps but its better than nothing. I'll use this until i get back from my holiday and start supplementing with some other shit when i get back, probably the CEE. If the L'arginine seems like its doing good for me then i'll continue to take it also.
G-Spot19
14th August 2005, 06:31 AM
I find L-orithine costs quite a bit every where i look. I just use argenine and NO2.
BigBadBear
14th August 2005, 01:40 PM
I ended up ditching arginine and ornithine due to cost. Considering I'm either living off my parents or my student loan I can't afford to shell out on that on top of whey protein, multivitamins and fish oils which are all more important for general health and strength.
Take it easy on the supplements, without a diet consisting of lots of good clean food, especially protein, and good sleep patterns, you won't make gains no matter how much you waste on supplements. I'd seriously recommend sticking to the basics in terms of supplements. In terms of how much you spend for how much you gain, you can't beat a good healthy diet and a good nights sleep.
Shane_Bos
14th August 2005, 03:51 PM
My diet is pretty good. Usualy 4 meals a day, one of which is often some sorta fish to get some good protein and i try to keep the fat content low. I only supplement with whey after a workout. Ive finished with the creatine for now, and im just seeing how the arginine will work. Im just experimenting for now to see what makes me get big the quickest. Ive already made satisfactory gains and hopefully ill keep going. Cheers for the tips though BBB.
BigBadBear
14th August 2005, 04:42 PM
5 or 6 meals a day is usually the recommended number, or eating some sort of meal every 2-3 hours. Obviously it's hard to have time to eat that frequently if you actually have things to do with your time, but that's kinda what you want to be aiming for.
Anyway, if you're making gains then it seems what you're doing right now is working so keep it up. Good luck with your training. :)
Shane_Bos
14th August 2005, 04:45 PM
Yeh its hard to eat properly as i live with my parents still and cant really afford to buy my own food so i get what im given really. I will indeed keep it up! Cheers.
G-Spot19
15th August 2005, 06:19 AM
Just read the afford part. I was about to suggest investing in some meal replacement powders to get you a good deal of nutrition when you dont have time to eat.
Shane_Bos
17th August 2005, 06:48 PM
I think i'm getting addicted to working out you know. Every day i want to pick up my weights and thrash the shit out of my muscles but i dont cos i know its not good to train every day, i usualy train twice a week at the gym and once at home each week. Its weird cos up until i started this bulking phase, motivation was what i was short of. I've just got loads of energy that i need to release. Not a bad thing, and i doubt its the supplements as im off the creatine now and it started before i was taking the l'arginine.
Oh well, the water retention of the creatine's gone now so i'll post some stats when i measure and take some pics when my bird gets back.
BigBadBear
17th August 2005, 06:52 PM
I know what you mean about the addiction thing, I've only been lifting a few weeks but I already feel I want to be doing it all the time, which is weird because it's taken me ages to get started with a consistant and planned weights routine. I'm only lifting twice a week right now and I'm finding it hard to just sit down and rest on my off days.
soserious
24th August 2005, 05:54 PM
great stuff Shane, ok you guys who want to rest less and workout more- give me your rest days and you can have my workout days n_n
after 10 years take a look back.
Shane, dont get too hung up on supplements. you can build a fuckin awesome physique (natural- not freaky huge steroid look) without ANY supplements.
G-spot, which NOS? or NO2 ?
ss
G-Spot19
24th August 2005, 06:32 PM
Its an NO2 supplement. Good stuff. I love it, though its a bit pricy. as of right now, i cant afford my refill.
soserious
24th August 2005, 07:09 PM
not good :(
what was the dosage? and what brand?
i cant afford anything at the moment. not even clothes or nuthin- jus food and basic bills. but when im doing better i want to try some of that.
not for training just for the general effects.
ss
ps i hope you have some good luck soon so you can get some more!
Shane, you saying you workout 2x a week or 3x?
Shane_Bos
24th August 2005, 11:19 PM
2x in the gym and and once at home each week but sometimes i cheat and lift some weights at home on an off day. I wouldnt say im gettin hung up on the supplements. I only take whey protein after a gym workout as my workouts at home are usually just free weights with lots of reps just to help with defenition. The arginine im taking cos everyone speaks so highly of it and wanted to try it for myself but i cant notice any of the effects majorly so i doubt i will buy arginine again. And creatine i cycle just to help that little extra. I know i could get a perfect body without any supplements and that a good diet is more important but i would say my diet is statisfactory to good at the moment and that i use the supplements to bulk a bit faster, and i feel that's what has happened.
soserious
11th September 2005, 08:45 PM
Whats your situation report Shane? :cool
dividethehate165
15th September 2005, 01:04 AM
Good job with the workin out not only the dick but also the rest of the body!
I have been workin out for about 7-8 months and have gained 15-20 pounds of muscle. Just stay consistent and dont get the beginner blues like I had, you know where you look in the mirror and compare yourself to others too much. I urge you to take and post progress pictures as this will halp you greatly down the line.
I'll to post a pic of mine to show you how much you can change (not that im all that musclular but change is present) yourself if only you stay consistent, lift heavy, and eat loads. (5 month interval - New vs. Old)
[URL]http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1338/backdoublebioldvsnew9jg.jpg[URL]
zwmusic
15th September 2005, 04:37 PM
Good job dh165. Did you take any amino acid supplements?
MagnumXL
15th September 2005, 04:52 PM
I bodybuild aswell. Here are my results after 6 months of dedicated bodybuilding and heavy steroid use.
BEFORE
http://www.posterservice.com/bigpics/7691.jpg
AFTER
http://www.81x.com/Authors/bigwillevo/beastilee.jpg
dividethehate165
15th September 2005, 08:25 PM
HAHAHA nice pic Mag,
zwmusic: No, the only supplements I took was 100% creatine monohydrate and Whey protein powder, but these I only took sparcely and I discontinued them about 2 months into training (mostly because of the disgusting taste of the whey powder). I have found that large meals and tons of food work so much better than supplements.
Oh yea Shane_Bos, dont do lots of reps, stick with 3 sets of 6-8 reps (6-8 being the max reps you can do with that weight) That will help you with bulking and then afterwards you can cut down to a lean defined body.
Shane_Bos
23rd September 2005, 12:22 AM
Well, after my holiday, the belly that i lost has now come back. Too much beer and irregular eating. I'll start back at the gym at the end of the month i think, once i settled into uni. Cheers Dividethehate for the motivation, ive taken before pics but ive got to find a digital camera to give you after pics. Ive also taken measurements so ill give you my current stats when i can be arsed in the near future.
Shane_Bos
23rd September 2005, 12:30 AM
Here are my 'before' pics...
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mebody7zb.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mybody30xx.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mebody34kd.jpg
Shane_Bos
23rd September 2005, 12:33 AM
Ive just realised how many moles ive got :shock: Oh well :cheeky:
wern
23rd September 2005, 12:41 AM
What sort of a body are you going for? Bulky? Slim and toned?
Shane_Bos
23rd September 2005, 12:55 AM
Kinda like Ryan Reynolds, so i need to bulk up a bit and then cut...
http://www.moviepublicity.com/image_assets/bladetrinity_CN_355_09A.jpg
http://images.hollywood.com/images/large/l_2439079.jpg
Valk
23rd September 2005, 12:59 AM
Its like I'm looking at pictures of myself. Your pics ofcourse, not Reynolds.
soserious
23rd September 2005, 01:06 AM
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,
ok stop confusing me everyone!!
posting pics in Shanes diary other than Shane just makes it confusing.
Shane are you currently at the beggining stage now?
Shane_Bos
23rd September 2005, 01:07 AM
You always said you hated your body Valky, its not that bad, it could be alot worse, for example, when i was 15, i used to use 4kg weights to bicep curl, i was one of the skiniest kids you will ever see. All it takes is a bit of hard work and you'll end up like Ryan, i know i will.
SS, that was at the start of the summer, i would say my arms are bigger and maybe my chest and back are a little bigger too since i took those photos. Since then ive done about 5 or 6 weeks of regular working out, while on creatine, but havent worked out for about 3 - 4 weeks now.
soserious
23rd September 2005, 01:16 AM
ok, why the lapse in workouts?
whats the problem? (apologies if its written down and ive missed it, my heads spinning and i feel naseous).
what was your workout? ect?
Shane_Bos
23rd September 2005, 01:16 AM
The lapse in workouts was 2 weeks of my holiday and a week or two prior to that when things got a bit hectic with preparing for my holiday and my now ex girlfriend returning from her holiday etc.
I dont really have a set workout but i try to go to the gym twice a week and do what feels good.
Ok, im curious myself now on how much muscle ive put on so here are my current stats:
Weight: 154lbs
Chest: 37 1/8"
Right bicep: 11 1/2"
Left bicep: 11"
Waist: 32 1/2"
I think these stats were probably a bit better prior to my holiday and break from going to the gym. I dont think the stats represent the improvement though as i feel i do look better. Oh well, i'll just try and get down the gym asap i suppose.
Valk
23rd September 2005, 01:18 AM
Ofcourse it could be alot worse, but I see more people with better bodies then me then people with worse bodies to me. And its not that I dont have the body of a Greek god, its more frustrating that I have the body of a 15 year old while I'm 21.
Also, what Ryan and other celibrities did is almost impossible to maintain for a long period. For a very short moment everything in their lives is dedicated to getting the best body possible for the movie. But its impossible to keep that attitude for the rest of your life. I highly doubt that Ryan still looks the way as he did on the photos. Just look at Edward Norton and Brad Pitt. After transforming their bodies for a movie, they went back to their original frame afterwards.
FUCK
Shane_Bos
23rd September 2005, 01:21 AM
I suppose but if i got to the stage where i had the body of Ryan then i think i will have a great body from then on, even if it does decline a bit.
soserious
23rd September 2005, 01:48 AM
Shane, if you dont already then try to keep your training simple and short- you want something that you can do on any given scheduled training day- you might be in no mood for it or tired or whatever so try and limit exercise number and sets. (just my opinion). quality exercises though.
Valk, lots of guys are like that. i think time generally does its thing, at 21 your still pretty young.
wern
23rd September 2005, 02:30 AM
Ryan Reynolds is awsome.
I'd like a body like that as well.
Diablo
24th September 2005, 04:30 AM
im bodybuilding aswell. at least thats the theory. i want to lose all my fat before i start however, and seeing as i have 30lb to lose (im 6'2, 184lb, my ideal is about 155lb, so you can see i have virtually no muscle.
i have everyhing i need to bulk, including creatine, whey, blender, informaton...
but unfortunately i hate cardio so much its incredibly difficult finding an exercise i could enjoy.
shit i just realised the time (4:30am :( ) im supposed to be getting up at 7:30am... better go!
The Big Banana
24th September 2005, 07:44 AM
Youre better off starting the weight training now with the cardio. The more muscle you have, the more easily you will lose the fat.
Shane_Bos
25th September 2005, 02:11 PM
It doesnt make sense to try and lose weight and bodybuild at the same time. You want to build muscle and then cut to lose the bodyfat to get the definition. Chances are, bodybuilding will lower your bodyfat % anyway.
dividethehate165
26th September 2005, 04:19 AM
Very true shane_bos, i can tell you've been doing your homework.
Diablo > He's right. DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT lose weight, it will be your best friend as you progress through more and more weight/reps. You will add much more muscle to your frame if you leave on the fat too for awhile until you are ready to "cut" (meaning no more junk food and cardio each day). You have a big advantage over a skinny person starting to weight lift (trust me). And remember to SLEEP! Your body needs its chance to recouperate, much like your penis does too after a hard workout.
Good luck to both of you
Tmac 1 LeBron 23
26th September 2005, 04:30 AM
You should do shoulder curls aswell :wink: Build up big bulky shoulders :D
dividethehate165
27th September 2005, 01:55 AM
You should do shoulder curls aswell :wink: Build up big bulky shoulders :D
Shoulder Curls??, You mean side laterals or front laterals? Im not tryin to be a dick but even i was confused at the meaning of shoulder curls
Go to this link http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.htm , scroll down to parts of the body to work and it will show you all exercises for that part of the body and any other muscles that exercise will worak as well.
BIGOKE
27th September 2005, 07:00 AM
im bodybuilding aswell. at least thats the theory. i want to lose all my fat before i start however, and seeing as i have 30lb to lose (im 6'2, 184lb, my ideal is about 155lb, so you can see i have virtually no muscle.
i have everyhing i need to bulk, including creatine, whey, blender, informaton...
but unfortunately i hate cardio so much its incredibly difficult finding an exercise i could enjoy.
shit i just realised the time (4:30am :( ) im supposed to be getting up at 7:30am... better go!
Shane sorry to clutter but Diablo your height weight ratio is correct. If you lose 29lbs of fat you probably gonna get very sick. That would make you look painfully thin. Emaciated almost. If cardio is not your thing then use diet and anaerobic excercise to lose fat but gain muscle. Throw in cardio as supplementary exercise to your weight routine. You will still lose fat and gain muscle without actually losing weight.
Shane_Bos
29th September 2005, 12:28 AM
Dont worry Bigoke, clutter all you like. Well, dont take liberties, cos i will kill you :twisted:
icecam
29th September 2005, 12:31 AM
im training to be a personal trainer so if ya need a hand on anything gives a shout dude, im already a fitness instuctor just moving up to the next level.
;)
Shane_Bos
29th September 2005, 12:37 AM
Will do mate, and similarly, if i chuck a question out there, feel free to answer it.
icecam
29th September 2005, 12:39 AM
Will do mate, and similarly, if i chuck a question out there, feel free to answer it.
will do mate also if you want im a good member of www.teenbodybuilding.com give that site a wee peek some good info on there ;)
Shane_Bos
4th October 2005, 09:47 PM
Well here's an update...
I tried out for my Uni's American Football team on sunday and i find out on thursday if i made the team and what possition they think i can play. I dont know much about the sport, just the basics but im hoping to be able to play running back even though they get smashed up. I used to play rugby and was quite good at passing players as i have pace and im quite agile so thats kinda why i think i'll play well as running back. So yeh if i make the team, we will train twice a week, 4 hours a session which will get me fit in no time and help me lose my belly :D
On top of this, ive just joined my Uni gym for £99 which means for the next year, i can use the gym for no extra cost. Theres incentives there in that, i dont have to pay any more money to use the place and that its right next to where i study so i'll be going to the gym monday and/or tuesday and then thursday and/or friday.
Im going to start my second creatine cycle tomorow and continue to take whey protein after every workout and i got L'arginine tablets to use up too.
After this cycle of creatine we'll see how i develop and maybe afterwards i may start on a different type of creatine called CEE (http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22423&page=1&pp=20).
I'll keep you up to date on how everything goes :mrgreen
Shane_Bos
7th October 2005, 12:09 AM
I made the team! Not sure where I'll be playing but i was put in a group today of running backs/wide receivers etc which means after todays session where we trained specifically to those possitions, the coaches should have a good idea of where theyre gona play me. Wooo!
dividethehate165
7th October 2005, 03:28 AM
congrats man, tear it up
G-Spot19
7th October 2005, 03:48 AM
Congradulations Shane. Thats a hell of an accompishment!
Anthrax
7th October 2005, 04:39 AM
Now all you have to do is learn the sport...
The Big Banana
7th October 2005, 08:47 AM
Let me get this straight, you quit rugby to play american football? My head just blew up.
Shane_Bos
8th October 2005, 07:41 PM
I didnt really quit rugby, i used to play for my school a few years ago but then i left and never got around to joining an actual league team. I could have tried out for my uni rugby team but i just fancied trying American Football, which i now enjoy :mrgreen
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