If jelqing works, why doesn't masturbating?

[marcfe]

This may seem like a crazy question, but if the goal of jelqing is to force blood into the head of the penis beyond its normal limits in order for it to adapt and be able to take in more blood, why doesn't masturbating make your penis bigger also? This may only apply to people who masturbate with no lubricant but, when I masturbate I tend to force alot of blood into the head of my penis also, so in theory wouldn't this make your penis grow also? I'm becoming a believer in jelqing after 3 weeks, I just don't understand how jelqing results in your penis becoming larger but masturbating doesn't.

[Shane_Bos]

Masturbating isnt a consistant strenuous strain on your cock. Jelqing involves forcing blood into the whole of your cock, not just your head. Other wise you would have a massive head and small shaft resembling something along the lines of a lollipop (maybe).

When you wank, im guessing most people dont constanlty force blood into their dick. More like, it gets there and stays there for a while. There is no real expansion of your dick beyond its capacity when you wank unlike with jelqing.

[Spike]

Uhhhh - you have a wierd wanking technique.

[wern]

when you jelq you put outward pressure on your cock. When you wank you put inward pressure. The outward pressure forces expansion of chambers. The inward pressure of wanking isn't very strong so it doesn't do anything. If you really want to experiment, start wanking with the same grip + pressure you would use on a proper 3-5second jelq. Then tell us what happens :mrgreen

[platinumfire]

i agree to wern... yea.. u can experiment out and let us know... but i think the mechanisms for the 2 things are completely different... yet... best of luckZZ!!

[MagnumXL]

when you jelq you put outward pressure on your cock. When you wank you put inward pressure. The outward pressure forces expansion of chambers. The inward pressure of wanking isn't very strong so it doesn't do anything. If you really want to experiment, start wanking with the same grip + pressure you would use on a proper 3-5second jelq. Then tell us what happens :mrgreen


I dont agree with the whole pressure theory u have. How does masterbating create an 'inward' pressure?

[Bobo]

Just squeezing the shaft won't make it grow, jelqing moves the blood quite differently. When masturbating one is usually 100% erect meaning the tissue won't give up enough to stretch, while when jelqing one's only ~60-70% erect meaning the tissue can stretch easier.

[wern]

I dont agree with the whole pressure theory u have. How does masterbating create an 'inward' pressure?

when you masturbate, you are stroking from the glans (head) to the base while applying a certain amount of pressure. So some blood is moved to the base, or in other words away from the penis and into the body. Hence inward pressure.

With jelqing blood is moved from the base to the head, and you should kegel blood regulary so blood is effectively moving from the body to the penis where ist is then compressed. Hence outward.

Thats what I meant.

[MagnumXL]

Oh now I see what you mean. I thought you ment inward pressure from the shaft which i guess would make the dick... well smaller.

[italianboi_18]

Uh, I just want to clarify something. I've barely done any PE in my life, in fact, my dick has continued to grow and I just recently turned 18. It's still growing, it seems.

When I wank, I actually pull outward, and do a lot of "kegels" while wanking, as well. Doing the kegels while I'm 100% hard, perhaps has contributed to my dick being "stretched to its limits", and that may account for my 8 1/4" to 8 1/2" size (varies with mood, etc.).

[Bobo]

Hmm... maybe. But, natural growth can still happen at Your age.

[BIGOKE]

When u get an erection the penis fills up with blood via the main artery and certain hormones are released which put you in the mood to have sex. When the hormones hit the system the penis expands so much that the veins which drain blood from the penis are constricted (almost collapsed) and therefore blood cannot drain away making the penis hard. The penis is in perfect form(as it was designed) and cannot expand further than what it is capable of at that moment no matter what the pressure or duration applied to it. So when you wank this is the condition of your penis.

When you Jelq your penis is usually at a lower erection to when you have sex. This means that the chambers are less stretched and more flexible. Also the blood is able to drain away fromthe penis via the veins. That is why it is important to kegel in blood as often as possible to maintain a semi erect state. By forcing blood through jelqing into the semi stretched chambers the idea is to strech them to their limits and a little bit beyond to cause some type of tearing or breaking down within them. Then on your rest days your penis will heal itself using the same process as anywhere else where trauma takes place within your body. So it should grow a little bigger after every rest day. By using 3 on 1 off or 5 on 2 off you use a number of days to continually stretch and tear the tissue and then recuperate for growth. The recuperation is whats essential. ( i'm not a fan of 1 on 1 off or 2 on 1 off because I don't think it is enough breaking down of tissues) Overtraining could cause your penis to become used to training making it fitter and not bigger. (look at marathon runners for example they are for the most part very fit and very thin and that is because of their training) you don't want to do this to your dick.

The reason you can't jelq with a full erection is that chambers are stretched to maximum and wont stretch much more and lots of pressure exerted will result in injuries. you have to keep the chambers flexible. It is also the reason that wanking won't make your penis grow. Also continuos wanking lowers testosterone and the desire for sex, so while you may have a wanking party, you will lose your desire for days or weeks before you try it again.

[soserious]

great post BIGOKE,
thankyou for your intelligent insight. hmm.
Although jelqs and pe never did sweet fuck all for me.

and as for t f w b a b b, i just have this to say: i w k a w f w m. s D! mf!
g-d i w k y f! b i h, y b i h a d m f!

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[MagnumXL]

soserious have you ever tried hanging?

[G-Spot19]

I remeber Frank n' Bean had a masturbation exercise. Seemed logical, but i dont remember exactly how he said to do it.

[soserious]

soserious have you ever tried hanging?

not "properly" but what i did try didnt seem to do anything other than injure me and hurt my nuts. its also quite hard to cos my shaft is thicker than the head so anything just slips off ect.

[wern]

hanging involves a bandage wrapped around most of the shaft, not the head at all, so having a small head wouldn't matter