Devices vs manual PE

[Yankee]

Found this forum the other day and hope that it will help me keep motivated and encouraged. I jelq maunally, on and off for a year now with no real results. I had recorded measurements on my Palm, but it died as well as my backup. Got an "average" penis with my goal of being FL 15/EL 18, which I hope isn't unrealistic.

Now I'm thinking of complementing with devices. Pills are nothing for me!

I've searched but found no references whatsoever to the varius devices being marketed for PE (weights, extenders, rollers etc.), such as "spam" (this is no endorsement).

Neither have I found rules against discussing specific devices. Admin: have I missed this somewhere?

My question is this: of the various devices out there, can anyone give advice on "what's best"?

Investing in PE costs money and I don't want to make some limp-dick rich because I'm naive. ;-)

-Edited by Bobo: Please, no PE-device advertising on this site. Thanks.-

[Valk]

Having never tried any other device besides my hands, I dont know if they work or not. But I dont know about working my penis with one of those devices. With my hands I have much more control and the risks are way smaller. Besides, as a beginner you dont really need anything to complement natural PE. Your dick isnt used to these kind of stresses and complementing with some device could lead to overtraining.

Why dont you try this Natural Penis Enlargement-shit for a while and see how it works out?

[Shane_Bos]

For most here, these natural exersices work so most dont have any reason to go trying devices.

[Bobo]

I've tried a pump, and all it gave me was some weird swelling and red spots. Natural PE gave me over an inch of length + some girth in four months, so who needs those devices?

[Shane_Bos]

Oldie :lol:

[Baseballer8]

You want to be 18 inches long erect :? I dunno about that but I will say that I have been to other forums which people say they find success in these devices and there is one out there which tells you how to make your own for about $10. If it is alright I would like to post it here since I find it informative but I need approval first.


Also they need to be worn for several hours at a time.

[Valk]

I think he meant centimetres

[Yankee]

Yes, I meant centimeters. :wink:

I can understand most prefer the "security" of natural PE, but the apparent success from especially this device, have read about for example "spam" in newspapers here, makes it very "appealing".

Hope for discussion "for" and "against" from those who've actually tried these various techniques and devices, not just the establishment saying "they're not worth it" if one hasn't real experience. Capeche?

I'm specifically interested in experience of "spam" to be honest.

-Edited by Bobo: Please, no PE-device advertising on this site. Thanks.-

[Valk]

I see your point but why do you value the success stories of those devices more then the succes stories here?
Our succes stories are totally unbiased because we dont sell anything here.
With those devices there's money involved and you know what money does to people.
If you have the money, go for it but consistency in combination with Natural PE could do wonders too.

[Baseballer8]

Well Admins can I post the directions from ***?

[Spike]

If you can manage not to mention *** and not pilfer anyones copyright then OK.

[Valk]

Is mentioning that device really spamming? Is it patented by one company or are there more versions floating around? If its the latter its pretty much the same as talking about pumps. No real spamming.

[Bobo]

The device name I edited was a specific (very expensive) device, and the way it was mentioned in two different posts, and twice in the same post was certainly advertising. You can talk about pumps and traction devices, but leave the product name out of this forum.

[Valk]

Okay, just didnt know if it was a specific device or not. No harm intended. :)

[Bobo]

None taken. :wink:

[Yankee]

The device name I edited was a specific (very expensive) device, and the way it was mentioned in two different posts, and twice in the same post was certainly advertising. You can talk about pumps and traction devices, but leave the product name out of this forum.

No harm intended from my angle either ADMIN.

My point about "traction-devices" is that they appear to be somewhat widely used. I'm not advocating them really.

I've done natural PE on-and-off for a year I guess. No real success, some mm here and there. Therefore I'm considering the "alternatives".

[Yankee]

Last night I read on a (swedish) site concerning andrology (scientific study of diseases particular to males, esp. the male sex organs) that there is NO documented PE system that gives any permanent size increase more than millimeters, natural or otherwise. In addition, stopping PE means the (temporary) size increase in the flaccid-state returns to normal.

Considering that these andrology clinics have thousands of patients that have problems directly associated to PE, is there any point?

(Google: "Frågor om sex"+Penisförstoring)

[Spike]

One assume's the 1000's are there for surgical procedures?

[Bobo]

My point about "traction-devices" is that they appear to be somewhat widely used. I'm not advocating them really.
If Your opinion is based only on what You've read on those sites that sell the expensive things, You will definately be brainwashed to believe everything they say. I'm not saying they wouldn't work, but they simply can't work like natural PE'ing because they only stretch. You can't increase the volume of a blood chamber only by stretching it lengthwise. There must be inner pressure stretching it outwards to every direction to really add more volume. Do You think the device would stretch somehow differently than one can do manually? How would that stretch be more permanent than a manual one?

I gained over an inch in length + some girth in four months, and after a short maintenance period I've now kept it all without any kind of PE'ing for over an year now. I did loose some of my flaccid gains but I kept my erect gains which really matters.

...there is NO documented PE system that gives any permanent size increase more than millimeters...
The funny part is: CC is full of PE'ers who can honestly say they've gained alot and kept it. But... as none of us, You won't be a believer either before You really gain. If You really have PE'd for years without gaining, then You must have done something wrong. You must understand how PE'ing works, how the tissue stretches... how the volume expands... or You may jelq all wrong and waste a lot of time. Do Your homework here, we have loads of info on how to PE.

If You're still sceptical about natural PE'ing, think of it this way: why is CC here, we're not selling anything? If You want to believe sites that are trying to sell You expensive shit over CC that isn't selling anything, then... well... You see my point?

[Shane_Bos]

I see it Bobo, and i second it too :cool

[Yankee]

One assume's the 1000's are there for surgical procedures?

Nope. But I went back and read this androlog forum again and the damaged penises he refers to are from traction devices like those I mentioned. Hmm.

[Bobo]

My point exactly. Natural hand-made PE'ing is the only and best way in my opinion. Why risk it when there's a safer way?