P90X: Anyone have it or going to get it?

[PepeLePew]

Let me know if you got it or are going to get it. I had an idea with G-Spot,
so if you post in here let me know and I'll try to email ya.

A good way to push each other.

[The_Scientist]

You know I'm down once I get out of school May first baby. :twisted:

[Baseballer8]

How does P90x compare to Crossfit?

[PepeLePew]

You know I'm down once I get out of school May first baby. :twisted:

I'll be out at around same time and done until graduation on the 8th.

I wanted to see if you guys wanted to get a group thing going for P90X
to push ourselfs and see some results. Do the WOWY thing maybe.

I can't wait to start this program and get even more shredded! I just
need a pullup bar...going to get the Iron Gym one for $28 or the Iron Gym
Extreme for $38...both great reviews I've read. I've been looking at the msg.
boards & vids over there for the past few days and the results are just
amazing. I seriously haven't been this excited for a long time. Like a
whole new toy to play with...but hard work to see great results. Can't
wait. I've already been doing the Ab Ripper X workout I found on youtube
every other day. Youtube as a ton of great results from people as well.
Here some good ones. But you can find better on the BeachBody site.
I'm even more impressed with the money they offer people for showing
results...8 people every month win $1,000 and I've seen some $10,000 &
$50,000 & $250,000 winners for the big stuff. Crazy.

Here the site to see all 12 different workouts CD in the program, just scroll down a little: http://www.beachbody.com/p<WBR></WBR>roduct/fitness_programs/p9<WBR></WBR>0x.do?code=P90XDOTCOM (http://www.beachbody.com/product/fitness_programs/p90x.do?code=P90XDOTCOM)

here are some dumbbells I'm probably going to get as well, Bowflex SelectTech dumbbells in payments of only $11 a month. And the Iron Gym pullup bar I'm gonna get for $30 that attaches to my door.
Dumbbells -->
http://www.bowflexselectte<WBR></WBR>ch.com/bst_microsite/produ<WBR></WBR>cts/1090dumbbells/prdcdovr<WBR></WBR>~710000/Bowflex+SelectTech<WBR></WBR>+1090+Dumbbells.jsp (http://www.bowflexselecttech.com/bst_microsite/products/1090dumbbells/prdcdovr~710000/Bowflex+SelectTech+1090+Dumbbells.jsp)
Pullupbar --> http://www.amazon.com/Iron<WBR></WBR>-Gym-Total-Upper-Workout/d<WBR></WBR>p/B001EJMS6K (http://www.amazon.com/Iron-Gym-Total-Upper-Workout/dp/B001EJMS6K)

Below are the best p90x transformations I could find to help motivate anyone to giving the program a shot:
http://www.youtube.com/wat<WBR></WBR>ch?v=E3Xlb0ezSnY&feature=c<WBR></WBR>hannel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Xlb0ezSnY&feature=channel)
http://www.youtube.com/wat<WBR></WBR>ch?v=-d1KrHIIyf0&feature=r<WBR></WBR>esponse_watch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d1KrHIIyf0&feature=response_watch)
http://www.youtube.com/wat<WBR></WBR>ch?v=rXkCBYEWm8k&feature=c<WBR></WBR>hannel_page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXkCBYEWm8k&feature=channel_page) **Black dude**
http://www.youtube.com/wat<WBR></WBR>ch?v=GTcZboou0DU&feature=r<WBR></WBR>esponse_watch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTcZboou0DU&feature=response_watch)
http://www.youtube.com/wat<WBR></WBR>ch?v=a0WX2lypf5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0WX2lypf5c) **Black dude**
http://www.youtube.com/wat<WBR></WBR>ch?v=HpvDtbvAU0I&feature=r<WBR></WBR>elated (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpvDtbvAU0I&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/wat<WBR></WBR>ch?v=wwtAEoH8AoE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwtAEoH8AoE)
http://www.youtube.com/wat<WBR></WBR>ch?v=0tjLKCljUYU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tjLKCljUYU)

[PepeLePew]

How does P90x compare to Crossfit?

Never heard of this, but just looked it up. Where can I see the before &
after results of the program?

[Torpedo]

Crossfit isn't a program that's done for a set period of time, so you might have trouble finding definitive before-and-after shots. It's a daily workout that's posted at crossfit.com (http://www.crossfit.com). You can jump right in and start doing the workouts at any time. The website has instructions for what to do if you need to build up to doing the full workouts.

Crossfit has a strength-endurance focus with lots of variety. The goal is practical fitness. (They don't do much in the way of cardio, though.) Supposedly, a lot of LEO and military units do it and like it.

From what I've seen of the program, it's great for muscle development, but it is severely lacking when it comes to cardio training and running. In the real world, mobility is a huge and often overlooked area of fitness. And Crossfit just doesn't do much in that area. In fact, they discourage doing a supplemental cardio workout while doing the program. I'm guessing that Crossfit people have great running times up to about the 1-mile mark, because they have pretty good muscle development and a reasonable low-level cardio base. But after the first mile, they probably collapse in a heap.

Remember, the heart is the most important muscle in the body. The rest of the muscles can only do their jobs if they have an adequate supply of oxygen. And you are NOT going to build any real cardio ability by lifting. That's like saying you'll build strong legs by walking up a flight of stairs every day. Sure, it may be true for some people. But an athlete wouldn't even notice it.

[Torpedo]

Or are you just trying to look pretty? :wink: If so, what's wrong with bodybuilding? Or are you trying to lean-up?

[G-Spot19]

Oh yeah man. Tony talks all the time how much more motivating and fun it is for you to do P90X with friends and compete with each other. I'm in. Ill start all over. I got fucked up when i got sick anyway and have been focusing more on gaining weight again with only light P90X training. Ill post more in my diary!

[The_Scientist]

I've done a bit of P90, and they run Crossfit at the gym I go to.

From what I've seen crossfit teaches you to be strong/explosive but in the traditional ways like you will be able to jump higher and press more, this is because it uses mostly the traditional all around strength training exercises, there are lots of pushups, pullups, squats, military presses etc.

I think P90X would teach you to be strong/explosive in a more dynamic way like odd motions and what not, because they use kempo, yoga, plyometrics things like that.

In conclusion, my impression is this :

Crossfit
STRONG/Explosive
Better for bulk

P90
Strong/EXPLOSIVE
Better for getting lean

[Torpedo]

Well, I don't think I understand your chart.. You're saying that crossfit is more geared toward strength, while P90X is more geared toward explosive power?

[Torpedo]

Do you know if either of those programs can be adapted to still maximize results while incorporating a lot of cardio?

[The_Scientist]

Stupid forums fucking up my formatting, but yes that's what I was saying. They both provide both, but one is better for one and one is better for the other, and both can be tailored.

They both actually have quite a bit of cardio the way I've been seeing them performed with non-stop action. If you're really worried about it, you could probably run for a half hour in the morning then do the routine in the afternoon. The P90X has a cardio disk and I know that there's a version when you perform the cardio disk every morning and then do the P90X workout in the afternoon.

[Baseballer8]

See crossfit at my old gym was like military hell hour. Most people were puking after half an hour. The idea was they would run you down doing all sorts of things for an hour. I got the impression it was really geared towards functional fitness and cardio rather than bulk. In fact a personal trainer I know will tell his clients to stay far away from crossfit if they want to bulk.

[The_Scientist]

It was basically the same way at my gym, but of the two I think that you might get bigger overall doing crossfit. Let me go into a bit more detail.

You'll probably get bigger arms doing P90. This is because they use dumbbells so, you can curl with dumbbells and get massive arms, you won't however get massive legs doing a bunch of bodyweight squats or dumbbell lunges.


Crossfit on the other hand uses things like kettlebells, and I've seen deadlifts and squats with barbells, so you can get bigger overall because when you squat you're squatting 215 or whatever + your bodyweight, not just your bodyweight.

Neither is prone to making you massive, because they use alot of high reps and alot of bodyweight stuff, but of the two I think that overall crossfit will make you overall stronger/bigger and P90X will make you overall more explosive/leaner. But neither will make you as big/strong as going into the gym and pumping out 5 rep sets.

[Torpedo]

Crossfit's website claims that you can get bigger from Crossfit than you can from natural bodybuilding.
http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/faq.html#General5

So supposedly, you can put on some serious mass. I guess the thing that still concerns me is the cardio. If you have enough muscular strength and endurance to truly get a good cardio workout from things like pullups and deadlifting, then more power to you. But my muscles would get worn out LONG before my heart would.

[The_Scientist]

Well, it's not like a half hour of straight pushups.

One of the workouts I've seen is just like 20 sets or something ridiculous like that of 10 pullups, 20 pushups, 30 squats and repeat. So you don't stop moving for a solid 20 minutes, or there's workouts with 5 stations and 5 minutes at each station and maybe a rest station and you do as many reps as you can for 5 minutes.

I don't think that those are exact workouts, just to give you an idea. So it definitely works cardio, also I don't think that it would hurt too much to just run for a half hour in the morning especially if you're already used to it.

[Torpedo]

Here's an example of what I mean. When I was in ROTC, a friend of mine tried out for the Ranger Challenge team with me. He was built like a tank. He was incredibly strong in the weight room, and he could do things like pushups, pullups, and situps all day long. (The girls loved him. :twisted:) He was really into MMA, and I understand he did very well in whatever circuit he competed in.

During tryouts, we went on early-morning formations runs 5 days a week. The guy fell out of formation every time. EVERY time. He got so discouraged with the running that he never even showed up for any of the forced marches. He was cut for missing PT.

The guy could probably dominate at something like Crossfit or P90X. But he really struggled when he had to move from point A to point B relatively quickly, especially when point B was really far away. And that's what concerns me about doing ONLY something like Crossfit or P90X. It just doesn't seem to do much for long-range mobility.

[Torpedo]

If anyone here can run multiple sub-6:00 miles and got that way from doing only circuit training, then please tell me. But I doubt that it's possible. And honestly, that's not even very fast for a serious runner.

[The_Scientist]

Well of course. Muscles are sport/motion specific. If you want to be a good runner then you have to run, if you want to squat alot then you have to do alot of squats. That's why sport-specific training is all the rage now. I wouldn't expect being able to run a four minute mile help me squat 300 pounds anymore than squats help me run.

[Baseballer8]

See Torp I was going through the crossfit site just now and there was a lot of middle distance running involved. I am sure if you pushed yourself on the runs 6 min miles would be easy.

Granted the only sub 6 and sub 5 minutes miles I have ever run were during cross country season back in high school.

[Torpedo]

I wouldn't expect being able to run a four minute mile help me squat 300 pounds anymore than squats help me run.
Hmm... Well, you do have a point. Different types of training do produce different results. And that's ok. :mrgreen

I guess I've grown up with a somewhat military (and very Coloradoan) perspective on what it means to be physically fit. Ie., fitness is about longevity - whether it's carrying a pack through the mountains or being able to dig all day without stopping. Now, strength is a definite component of that. But if you don't have endurance, then you've got nothing.

So I guess your view of fitness is a product of your environment. Do ya'll live in more of an urban environment?

EDIT: And in case you were wondering about the military part, it's just that that's just what I was raised around. And it's what I've always planned on doing.

[Torpedo]

Oh yeah! I forgot to make my point. :lol:

If you have different training goals, that's fine. I sometimes forget that other people are in different situations and need different physical capabilities than I do. :saint:

[PepeLePew]

Wow wow We we... :cool

[Torpedo]

:lol: What?
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[G-Spot19]

The thing is guys, P90X is fully customizable. If you want to get lean, you do high reps low weight. If you want to bulk you do low reps heavy weight. You can adjust your calorie intake, your cardio time or anything about the program you want to tweak. You also do plyo and kenpo and sports training. The plyo has moves in it that do better than running. There are high knees, footbal moves like running through the tires and juking. You also do kenpo karate and yoga(in my opinion the best workout for your body) Like i said, you can use the program to reach your goals no matter what they are and it goes into great detail about how to do just that. The goal is not to make you puke, though it can and has happened, but to get you in the best shape ever. Best cardio, best flexibility, the strongest, and the over all healthiest you can possibly be. Im not just hyping it, ive tried it and seen it and believe me I was sceptical. As an ex rugby player we slammed the weights hard and ran our asses off. Toughest workouts ever. But I was wrong about P90X and now love it!!!! Plus the girls in the videos are hot as hell. I love the super flexible girl on the Yoga and 'X' stretch videos. She has a killer ass!

[Justafew]

I have P90X and just got up to curling 35's. I'll be much much more then happy to start over, and I'm going to! I've only done like 2 weeks of it anyways :-P. I'm a rock climbing, and have been climbing for about 4 months. There is a scale of difficulty in rock climbing that is in a numbered system. It goes V0 (easiest), V1, V2, and so on all the way up to V12's. Now, I've been climbing for 4 months, and can do almost all V2's (and this is me climbing 3 days a week). I'm going to actually start back over at V0's and take a rank a month. So, I'd love to do a P90X thing with you guys to get a better start into my goal of doing V9's within a year. So, since Scientist and Pepe get out of school may, why don't we just start then, and the rest of us can just do some prep work until then. I'll be cranking out pushups, pullups, sit ups, and cardio so I can get ready for P90X's tough stuff like plyometrics. God I love this forum!

Viva La Vida!

[The_Scientist]

That's what I'm doing, running, bodyweight stuff, stretching, yoga just to keep myself in/get in better shape before I start.

[Baseballer8]

I think I will be doing crossfit but will be up for a little competition if the parameters allow a little variation. I just found out I have a month to get in ridiculously good shape. I am getting a job for the three months I have off this summer as a whitewater rafting guide, so I gotta get my ass in gear, if anything so I can be eye candy for the girls and get more tips :twisted: (booty or money or both are accepted :cool )

[Justafew]

So, P90X comes with a supplement package. It's basically a creatine and protein mixture. I personally don't agree with supplements, so I won't be taking them. I'll simply be eating a lot of meat and drinking two milkshakes a day hehe. I'm very curious to see if it will still work for me, as well as it will for people who take the supplements. Is everybody else going to be taking the supplements, or you guys going to do it naturally?

[The_Scientist]

I just do Protein and a multi-vitamin. Nothing super unnatural or that will seriously fuck with my hormones/body chemistry.

[G-Spot19]

On Whey, Nitrix and the post workout recovery formula :cool

[PepeLePew]

ON Whey, every vitamin you can think or & a multivitamin as well.

Maybe some Creatine Mono., & Cytogainer.



P.S. I just got my Iron Gym pullup bar today for $30 :wink: I'm happy with it!

[G-Spot19]

Looks like a very solid piece of equipment. Not much longer to go!!!!!

[The_Scientist]

I thought about getting an NO supplement, then decided that I didn't want to spend the cash, because I would rather spend it on other things and I usually live cheap. I'm just going to go with a post-workout recovery thing, get the protein I need from food and what not.

[PepeLePew]

You mean NO as in like NO Shotgun & NO explode?

[G-Spot19]

Or NItrix. Nitric Oxide Stimulator. NO explode is an amazing preworkout supplement i used to take. Talk about getting focused and getting the drive to exercise! I may return to it someday.

[PepeLePew]

I tried NO Shotgun but it didn't do anything for me. It is awful to drink as
well...makes you want to gag.

[The_Scientist]

I think I'm going to go with 2:1:1 recovery I think, I would try torrent, but it's a bit prcey for me.

[G-Spot19]

Never tried NO Shotgun but I know of mixed reviews from friends who have taken it. I love BSN man. Best brand out there though a little pricey

[Torpedo]

Are you really working out hard enough and often enough to need NO supplements? It seems like that would hurt your joints.

[G-Spot19]

They are vaso dilators and help you get a massive pump and oxygen rich blood throughout your body. They also help give you some stronger boners, at least Nitrix will for me. I have never suffered joint pain from taking it or NO explode which greatly increases focus and intensity.

[G-Spot19]

Now you got mail Pepe! I am soooooooo ready for this!

[PepeLePew]

Gotcha son!

[G-Spot19]

Finally! start day :cool

[Justafew]

HEHE I LOVE IT!!!!

[G-Spot19]

Oh yeah! Cant help but to love it! Everytime you finish a workout you feel so accomplished!

[Rum_Runner]

P90X kicking your ass guys or what? Let me know that you guys are getting your ass handed to you.

[G-Spot19]

Man phase one is tough, but when you get to phase two, it takes an act from God to keep from you dying. Chest, tri's. and shoulders is officially my least favorite. Makes me feel like I am going to puke with those dame two twitch push ups or what ever :puke:

[soccaplaya]

I was seriously considering trying out p90x as well but I found a different method. I found several articles on bodybuilding.com pertaining to kettlebells. I started looking around more and found another cite that is all about fitness. They are killer tools to develop functional strength and cardiovascular capacity. The workouts are simple but brutal. Right now I am following what is called the Program Minimum. It consists of swings 2-3 days a week and then get-ups alternating days. You do this for a month, then move on to the rite of passage. the RoP is snatches with cleans and presses.
I have more information if you guys are interested.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Please start another thread and share with us. I'd be interested to hear more about it.

[Kefitzat Haderech]

Started P90X a week ago, check my diary at http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?t=7218&page=2

[Sabin37]

Um... are you guys actually paying money for this P90X thing? I just went to the website... what do they actually give you? Equipment, or just information?

[Kefitzat Haderech]

I got my P90X vids for free from a friend (that friend's name is rapidshare.com)

[The_Scientist]

I have the videos, I started doing them over the summer, but with my crazy work schedule I didn't have enough time to dedicate an hour and a half to working out like you must on some of the routines, so I opted for a more traditional approach. I think I'm going to start next week, I will start doing a couple of the videos this weekend, because I don't believe in waiting, but will wait to start the program until Monday, because that's how the program is laid out, though I will switch the days around some to fit them into my schedule. I'l also be running to do develop an aerobic cardio base and doing BJJ so I'm going to be going fairly hardcore, but I've got the desire, drive and ability to do it so I will.

Check in on me in case I need a kick in the ass or something though. :wink:

[Sabin37]

Um... can somebody give me a link to these videos?

I'd be really interested to use this "P90X". I need to start bulking up so that girls who aren't fat start becoming attracted to me :D

[Kefitzat Haderech]

Sorry, my links are now invalid

[jarhead]

P90X is the real deal. My buddy let me burn his dvds and I tried it for 3 weeks. I thought I was in good shape because I lift weights, but I was wrong. Those workouts killed me. They are very tough and if you do that program for three months then you will be in excellent shape and lose a good amount of weight if you are an average weight lifter. That program is no joke. I lost 9lbs in just three weeks. I did not change my diet at all. I am going to give it another shot in the winter just before next spring. I just don't have the time for it now. It requires a 100% commitment and especially mind set.

[PepeLePew]

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss246/smoothcutNgwayne/day0front-1-2.jpg
Before


After only 40 days. Pre-workout shot...no ab flexing.
http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss246/smoothcutNgwayne/db1-1-1.jpg

[Apollo]

Looking more toned Pepe... whats your height/weight before/after?

[JaredK]

what does this program do for your ass? (no homo) i just want to really smash it, ya know?

[Apollo]

If you wanna work your ass do squats and lunges holding dumbbells.

[thajizzer]

I am currently on day 47 right now and am going to take my measurements after the 90 days. I haven't measured in months so it will be nice to have some gains.

[jarhead]

P90X is a tough workout. If you can even do that program for one month 100% I don't care who you are, you will lose some weight. My buddy lost 14lbs in one month. He now weighs 182lbs and he didn't follow the diet 100%. Not my kind of workout, but it does work.