Your Original Starting Size Survey - LENGTH

[Spike]

Your Original Starting Size Survey - LENGTH

OK. All the previous polls have been for current erect length, which this being CC is a bit of a moving target.

So here's an atempt at a definitive penis size survey using your pre-PE erect size.
If all 3000+ CC members vote then this will be one of the biggest surveys in the world, and even though it is self-measured I assume you know what you're doing and have no reason to lie.

To standise the measurements we'll use Boned-Pressed measurements like this (http://www.sizesurvey.com/erectech.html) (No it's not me) as we're interested in penis length, not how fat you are.

It's in metric, not inches to get the required range into the maximum number of options and keep it the same as the girth survey.

1" = 25.4mm. Try to work in metric for accuracy, there are rounding errors for the inch equivalents. i.e. 5.5" is actually 139.7mm.

(I'll keep this as a Sticky until we've collected a useful amount of data).

[Spike]

Here's how far the OldCC poll got.

[Clockers]

Sounds good.. :cheeky:

[Valk]

Too bad you couldn't move the data.

[JB22]

so people who already voted in the old forums shouldnt vote again right???

[Shane_Bos]

I voted, just on my starting stats, not new ones.

[Spike]

so people who already voted in the old forums shouldnt vote again right???

No - everybody should vote.

And it is your starting stats.

[wern]

Only 18 votes.. geez. how long did it take to tally up 700+ votes?

[Spike]

About a year.

[wern]

About a year.

:cheeky:

[Ed]

Up to 21 votes! You know, I had almost forgotten what my original length was but at a stubby 5.25 (and now around 6) it is nice to be reminded! Another great example of how the new forums are waking some of us up :D

[Mr.Bigs]

My original was around 5.5 inches ... now I'm up to an at times overwhelming 7.9 inches. PE works all you gotta do is stay committed.

[outofit]

nice stats mr. bigs, how long have u done pe and what kind of routine do u have?
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[Katsz]

Our polls are starting to take shape! Get it? Shape? :lol: :lol:

I must be drunk.

[Jad]

4.5". Help.

Can I ask though, if it really needs to be perpindicular to the body before measuring? With a maximum erection I cant pull it down that far.

(Sorry, prob should have asked this before I voted)

[manchild]

Do you put the ruler at the very base of your dick, like where the stomach and wang meet, or do you just measure what you mcan get in a girl?

thx

[italianboi_18]

Wow, I'm actually surprised that nobody has yet voted more than what I put down. I haven't even started PE yet, and my starting stats are 8 x 6. I'll make a thread soon enough :).

[Mr.Bigs]

nice stats mr. bigs, how long have u done pe and what kind of routine do u have?

I've been around for a while on and off .. since around September 2003 ... doing normal stetching, dry jelqs, and wet jelqs on M-W-F or whenever I get a chance ... normally I stay committed for about 3 months and then stop and continue again ...

[Machoman87]

I have 6 long and 5 around dick so it's more or less average size. I want to make my dick 8 x 7. Is that possible? If I can, how long would it take? It seems like I'm being a bit too greedy. I'm 18 by the way.

[zwmusic]

Welcome Machoman87.

There's no prediction as to how long it will take for you to achieve your goals, you should start a beginners routine and work your way towards your goal. Once you're a more experienced PE'er you then move on to a more advanced routine. When will you know you're ready to change your routine? Listen to your body and you'll know. Basically, stick to a simple routine to start with for at least two months and then gradually move on to a more advanced routine. Anything is possible mate, as long as you stay focussed and don't injure yourself by overworking your wang.

Keep it simple and easy and you'll get there.

[simeon_t_aob]

Ok, my srarting size is 150 mm. :wink:

[Bobo]

I have 6 long and 5 around dick so it's more or less average size. I want to make my dick 8 x 7. Is that possible? If I can, how long would it take? It seems like I'm being a bit too greedy. I'm 18 by the way.


It may take a long time, but Your goals are very reachable, so no way You''re being greedy... Good luck, Sir!

[canadianpizza]

are these measurements taken bone pressed or not?

[Spike]

Yes. We're not really interested how fat you are. :D

[Bobo]

:lol: "Yes" is always a good answer to a question with two options, Spike! :wink: But yes, bone pressed it is.

[Seek&Destroy]

I thought I'd see more guys at both extremes.

It really seems to fall of above 180mm or 7.1".

Only 1 in 16 guys above 7.1", yet every other woman claims she has had a 9".

[zwmusic]

yet every other woman claims she has had a 9".

Every other woman don't know shit about penis size. Most of them think a 7 incher to be a a 9 incher.

[Shane_Bos]

Yeh most women dont know shit about dick size, and most seem shit at estimating a dicks length too. They should just stay in the kitchen unless we want our way with them :cool

[Katsz]

That's why you never buy a woman a watch. There's a clock on the oven.

[Nicademas]

I hate this to be my 1st post, but I had to chime in.

The reason you don't see many people at the extremes is because in the happier instance, the fellas out there with 8"+ tools are using them and not hanging out in websites aimed, primarily, at those trying to get bigger. That is, they are in the "Hot babes looking for big cocks" forum (if not using them, then rpeparing to).

For the lesser extreme (damn pun), they are too embarassed to join in the discussion and after reading various posts advising that tripling thier size is all but impossible, they quickly lose interest.

So, if all 3000 CC members would have voted, you would have had an unreliable test. I would be remissed if I did not say, with homage to my Stat professor, that the specific reason is because you would not be analyzing data from a random sample. You are getting results from a sample tilted towards less than above average+ size. It may even be true that you get close to averages that other random sampling penis size surveys have yielded; the problem is that your standard deviations would be way off.

Glad to be aboard...I'm hoping to add to the...uhmm....discourse.

[Wylde Bill]

My original starting size was 5.75 inches.

[hugh g rection]

I hate this to be my 1st post, but I had to chime in.

The reason you don't see many people at the extremes is because in the happier instance, the fellas out there with 8"+ tools are using them and not hanging out in websites aimed, primarily, at those trying to get bigger. That is, they are in the "Hot babes looking for big cocks" forum (if not using them, then rpeparing to).

For the lesser extreme (damn pun), they are too embarassed to join in the discussion and after reading various posts advising that tripling thier size is all but impossible, they quickly lose interest.

So, if all 3000 CC members would have voted, you would have had an unreliable test. I would be remissed if I did not say, with homage to my Stat professor, that the specific reason is because you would not be analyzing data from a random sample. You are getting results from a sample tilted towards less than above average+ size. It may even be true that you get close to averages that other random sampling penis size surveys have yielded; the problem is that your standard deviations would be way off.

Glad to be aboard...I'm hoping to add to the...uhmm....discourse.


I was 8.5 inches naturally, I think the survey is fairly accurate. Look at any of the penis size studies done, the results follow a natural curve as would any results with proper sample size with the right considerations. What I am trying to say is, look at any study done and the standard deviations and the means. Then compare them to the survey done here, the numbers are extremely close percentage wise.

The number of guys out there who are 8 inches or more naturally are just really that small. Yes everyone has a friend who is 8 inches or more naturally, whatever. They don't and they can't prove it either. People used to think I had a 10 inch cock when I was 8.5. The only truth is in a real measurement with a ruler. People are horrible at estimating size. Did you know if you hold something 9 inches long 6 feet away from a sitting person they will estimate it between 6-7 inches almost 80% of the time? :shock: It isn't until the object is less than a foot away that the accuracy raises enough to cease being laughable.

This topic always gets me a bit pissed because I went to high school with several guys who supposedly had 8, 10, 12 inch cocks. I ended up seeing most of them erect(through no fault of my own, a couple of the guys were really into showing off and I was unlucky enough to be in the locker room that day). None of them were even nearly as large as I was at that point.

Don't mean to shit on you because you raise a good statistical point. What you are saying about a tilted sample is true, but in this case doesn't really matter honestly. The only problem is you have to contend with self reporting bias too, thats more of a methods than a statistics question though.

Welcome to CC by the way. :D

[Spike]

You are getting results from a sample tilted towards less than above average+ size.

You would think so, but you'd be surprised how many come here thinking they have a small dick and are way above average. It seems it doesn't matter what the ruler says if you think you have a small dick, then it's a problem.

Even the well known surveys must be skewed - how many small-penised men are going to volunteer themselves to be measured?

There are only 2 or 3 real medical surveys (doctors measuring some hospital patients) and I'd guess they measured stretched flaccid - and in all of them the average was down at near 5" length.

[gonnabefamous]

EDITED: *** Discussing the old more extensive poll on page one that had results of 735 people**

32% are below the 5.9 BPEL in this poll while 31% are above 6.3, so since about equal on both sides of this if you take the average of the two you get 6.1 as the average BPEL. I do believe though there is a tendency for smaller members to come here, but since the majoriy of people are around the center, it shouldn't make a big difference in the overall average. So maybe 6.5??? This is interesting because I looked at all the medical surveys posted here considered their worthiness and the measurements etc and felt that 6.5 was the overall average across races for BPEL when done in a non medical environment UNLIKE the surveys done by a 3rd part where you stand up and can't be quite as excited and flex your PC muscle all factors that would probably add about a half inch in total to your measurement.

So let's estimate 6.5 is rough BPEL and 5.75 is rough NBEL adjusted after slight bias for people here having a slightly smaller penis on average then the population.


Now here comes some mathematical reasoning, let's see how it compares to the old poll........

If 95 percent are within 2 standard deviations, Kinsey study had the standard deviation at around .78, and it seems a good guesstimate based on other studies 95 percent will be within the range of :

4.90-8.05 BPEL
4.15 - 7.30 NBPEL

That means 2.5 percent for example are above 7.3 NBPEL or 2.5 below 4.15 NBPEL

99.7 percent are within 3 standard deviations

4.12 -8.83 BPEL
3.37 - 8.08 NBPEL

So only 1 out of 666 or 1/6 of a percent would likely be about 8 or higher NBPEL and 8.8 inches BPEL and higher. Since white males tend to not have a large of spread it is conceivable that the odds would be lower for white males, maybe 1 out of 800 to a 1000 to be 8 or higher NBPEL. This is why most male white porn stars are 8 to 9 inches NBPEL, because only 1 out of 800 to a 1000 probably have it and it's not so rare that it's impossible to find some that have it, but rare enough to find many that do have it. Black guys have higher spreads and that's why you can see some black male porn stars getting 1 to 2 inches more at the higher extremes of 10+ so maybe 1 out of 300 or something have it, just guessing on these parts.



OK, I now double checked my math with the stats of the old poll and I said only a .16 percent would be above 8.83 BPEL and interesting enough according to the old poll is about % .8 (7 users out of 735) so sort of close, but probably a few jokers inflating it. I said 2.5 percent would be above 8.05 and about 15 out of 735 voted for that so about 2 percent, so real close. I said 2.5 percent would be below 4.9 and the results showed about 8 percent, not real close but then again the few at the very low end are much more likely to be here. Only about .15 percent would be below 4.12 and about 1 and half percent are on the poll, once again plausible since the very low extremes are much more likely to be here doing P.E excercises and I don't think it's a coincidence that there is a lot more people doing it that are below 4.12 compared to the real world ratio wise then those below 5 inches, obviously if you have a really small ding dong you're gonna be that much more motivated to do P.E.

I think this should be the post everyone refers to when they want a true technical breakdown of penis size. :)

[Spike]

Did you include the 735 from the OldCC poll (page 1)?

Nice to know the longer I stay here, the more of a minority group I'll belong to. :lol:

[gonnabefamous]

I didn't see it till now, that one is much better since it's 735. I'll update my previous post as far as my thoughts go after looking that one over

[gonnabefamous]

Just want to add that the bell curve is statistically sound by using kinseys study's deviation number as a reference point because on this poll it looks like its about .78 by just doing a quick check.....

and just one more bit of trivia, 8.3 inches NBPEL and 9.1 BPEL is 3.29 standard deviations away and the odds of getting that is 1 out of a 1000 across all races. So finding a white guy with that is probably way more rare then 1 out of a 1000 since black guys tend to have higher incidence at the extremes.

[BFreak]

Hi everyone im new to this wesite and i got a (125mm) hard penis ...i think its sad that i dont even have 5 inches wtf i would be happy with 6.
can anyone suggust what i should do for the first month???

[Spike]

You're sort of asking in the wrong place, but Thought-Pro's Newbie Routine will do.

[gonnabefamous]

I made a mistake on my previous post on the odds of a 1 out of a 1000 penis sze so I will edit it.

Now that Ive shown that the statistics is pretty close to the real world if the poll is close to a real world distrubution and in fact the real world is a normal distrubution(and i'm sure its real close to a perfect bell curve)

I bet you guys are wondering, so what is the magic number, what is the one in a MILLION penis size if no one did P.E excercises and everyone had a fair chance at mating. Well according to my stats, I couldn't find an exact reference quickly so I did some quick estimates and the odds of it being 4 standard deviations from a mean is about one in a million. Since the deviation is .78 and we guess that the real world NBPEL is about 5.75 and 6.5 BPEL the one in a million penis is





















I bet you're thinking 10.5 inches non bone pressed or maybe even 11????







Are you right????





hmmmmmm :)




































Actually it'sprobably AROUND 9 NBPEL, and 9.8 BPEL, I say this because I believe the one in a million is somewhere between 4 and 4.5 standard deviations without having an exact table I can lookup, it's not that far from 8.3 NBPEL and 9.1 BPEL where the odds are about one in a thousand. So after those numbers the odds go up REALLY fast. I don't think its a coindence that most guys in porn are mid 8, and hte ones above it probably do P.E. So one can expect only 150 people in the whole U.S to have a penis that long. Even if they were twice as likely to have kids and hence carry the huge penis gene as guys with averagepenises that would still make them 1 out of a half a million people, only 300 people in the whole U.S would have that penis in that case.

[gonnabefamous]

If someone has some kind of background in math(and not talking high school math LOL) let me know if I made any errors or am wrong on something.

[Spike]

Did you include the joker who voted 240mm+ ?

So, how big do I have to be when I board an Airbus A320 (200 seats) to be statistically the biggest dick (owner of)?

Let's assume it's an early morning business flight full of men and the pilots and trolley dollies are women.

[The Big Banana]

He couldnt be using our stats could he? Theres less than 200 votes.

[Spike]

+ another 700 from OldCC, good enough to get the distribution.

[The Big Banana]

Which includes at least 100 voting twice.

[gonnabefamous]

I don't think you guys understand what I'm doing, I gave a mathematical analysis of what the real world results should be. I only used the old poll as a way to find a rough average(5.75 and 6.5) of the real world and to confirm that the standard deviation is .78(what the kinsey study said and it appears to be true based on the old poll) and to confirm the real world is "similiar" to the mathematical model, which it seems to be.

[zeolite]

There are about 100 guys doing my course. I am currently about 7.25''. Based on the results above, about 5% (i.e. 5 :shock:) of them are currently bigger than me :evil: Is this what your mathemtical model seems to be saying aswell gonnabefamous?

[gonnabefamous]

There are about 100 guys doing my course. I am currently about 7.25''. Based on the results above, about 5% (i.e. 5 :shock:) of them are currently bigger than me :evil: Is this what your mathemtical model seems to be saying aswell gonnabefamous?

You're course? WTF?

If you're 7.25 Bone pressed then I'd say that old poll is probably saying only about 3 percent are HIGHER then you.


7.25 bone pressed is pretty much at the end of the 1st standard deviation, so AROUND 16-17 percent SHOULD above you. Yeah its different from the real world poll, but that's because I adjusted the average higher by about .4 or whatever because I feel there is a slight bias on thepoll for people to have smaller penises here then in the real world. If you look at the 6.7 to 7.09 on the old poll 17 percent are above that category.

[zeolite]

You're course? WTF?My course at university...

[gonnabefamous]

Did you include the joker who voted 240mm+ ?

So, how big do I have to be when I board an Airbus A320 (200 seats) to be statistically the biggest dick (owner of)?

Let's assume it's an early morning business flight full of men and the pilots and trolley dollies are women.

Old poll says about 8.25 BPEL, then again that poll is biased for people with smaller penises.

My model (assuming 5.75 and 6.5 are the respective overall averages in the real world like has been my assumption all along with my math model) I would say you need anything over 8.65 BPEL

[gonnabefamous]

My course at university...

Your shifted down about one category on the poll becasue the people on the poll are more likely to have a smaller penis. Even common sense would say more then 5 percent have 7.25 Bone pressed, thats only like 6.0 to 6.75 non bone pressed.

[gonnabefamous]

My course at university...

If you want to have the odds of 1 out of a 100 for your course I'd say 8.5+ Bone pressed.

[zeolite]

Still, 17% being over 7.09''. That's depressing (for me, good for them)

[gonnabefamous]

Still, 17% being over 7.09''. That's depressing (for me, good for them)

The thing is though the farther you go the more accelerated the percentages go down. So adding only a inch and a quarter is going to make you go from being 17th place to 1st place on average. And tHe difference of about a half inch can be the difference between 1 and a thousand and 1 and a million when you get to the pornstar area....

[Spike]

Still, 17% being over 7.09''. That's depressing (for me, good for them)

Look on the bright side and try figure which 17% have 4" dicks and which 10% are homosexual.

[Wannabe_BIG]

How big in length do you have to be (bonepressed), in order to be one of the 20% biggest?

That would mean that if you where in a group of 100 random men, you would have longer dick then 79 oof them :lol:

And the same question for girth?

[Bobo]

According to this survey You'd have to be about 167mm or more to be in the top 20%.

[Wannabe_BIG]

thats not much, bonepressed.. It would be cool just to say you have a bigger dick then 80% of the population.

Don`t have to be a "monster".. :cool

[hugh g rection]

From everything I have always seen, if you are over 8 inches you have an incredibly good shot of being in the top 2 in any group. 7.5 you are probably in the top 5, so it seems to match up fairly well with our results.

[Wannabe_BIG]

From everything I have always seen, if you are over 8 inches you have an incredibly good shot of being in the top 2 in any group. 7.5 you are probably in the top 5, so it seems to match up fairly well with our results.


That makes my curious. What was your motivation for doing this hugh?

[BigDominicanDick]

Well i'm in the 1.40% and i believe anyone here can reach those goals..and I came in as is..before jelq'n and i don't consider myself greedy for wanting more

[zeolite]

People who say that's being greedy are just jealous. If you want more then go for it :D

[Valk]

I have re-stickied the two surveys because I've a feeling more people will reply to them this way.

[Spike]

I'd forgotten they were here.

[H&A]

My penis 16.5cm but when my glans is totally full is 17, but i cant keep that, just for seconds, what is my real size?

[K-man]

I'd say wait till your 18 and ask the question again :neut: :neut:

[Spike]

I'll second the motion. Aye. :mrgreen

[K-man]

I thought you'd agree :wink:

[Valk]

what is my real size?

About 4 cm.

[EndorphinMachine]

I have a doubt about the measuring system. When u say bone pressed u mean press really REALLY hard till the ruller hits the bone or just pulling it so it touches ur skin? I know this might sound like a dumb question but I don't think that pressing it all the way to the pubic bone is a good option since some people are fatter/thiner and the distance to the bone varies a lot. Also some of the measures people voted sound way too small for me to believe, and I aint trying to bring anyone down but I am a fairly small guy( 1,73m height) and have bigger dick than most members when I measure BP. So I wonder if most people are really measuring BP....

[Master Long]

It's almost a perfect bell curve. :shock:

[10043052]

approx. 127mm

[mikel]

I found PE'ing by pure luck, I never knew there was such a thing, and having a below average sized weener, I was looking one day for ways to make it bigger. I found a free site (This was near the end of January 2007) that had great vids, (I can no longer find it!) I have made great gains to date (From 5.9" to just over 7" side of penis pressed to bone erect lenght. That is the way the website said to measure, so now I find out it was wrong. Gotta subtract about 1/2" for top BPEL)

I believe I am no longer a newbie, and I want to try other exercises. All I have done to date are wet jelq, 5 way stretches, and PC squeeze IE: Kegel.
I am taking this week off, and with all my reading, I am finding it diffecult not to PE, although I am still doing the Kegel. (I do them for 10 minutes, which is about 265 reps, then 1 one minute hold, 4 times throughout the day. At least 2-3 hours between sessions. And starting next week, I plan to do more holds, trying to work upto maybe a 5-7 minute hold a couple times a day)
I never did much of the Jelq, (Maybe 5 minutes a day.) so I will build upto 300-400 three second strokes, I don't think I am ready for the dry jelq, so I plan to wait at least until January 2008 for that.


Do I have the right idea? Thanks in advance........

[newgoal]

Just 2 questions

1. why is "240mm or more (9.42" or more)" an option here since that would be about 1 out of 100,000 people.


2. Who with that starting measurement would want to make that unusanle thing longer?



ROFL

[Tolka]

Hi, I have a question.
Should I measure up penis by ruler (in straight line, except curve) or by tape (including curve)?

[metallicarocks05]

Hmmm, I always use a ruler, but my cock is pretty straight...I'm not really sure how you can do bone pressed with a tape anyways, which is what this survey measures, bone pressed erect length.

[G-Spot19]

I think its just the length from the base o the tip, curved or not.

[lostcause25]

I'm just 3 inches and only 4and a half when i'm hard this is bad i guess whats the best thing to do sorry but this is the first thing i came to when i just joined like 3 mins ago:(

[zwmusic]

Well, that's your place then. Start PE'ing and you'll be a happier man.

Welcome aboard. :cool

P.S. By the way, nobody is a lost cause. Just work on it and you'll get there.

[lostcause25]

Yeah i just found the streching exersise thing and tried it.. is it ment to throb afterwards?

The name lostcause is a name i have used online for years and i've never thought of it as a reflection on how i feel about things but thanks anyway :)

[pineapples4all]

Wait so you're supposed to measure down to the pelvic bone?

[rocketspeed14]

4.5 inches here. And I am learining that shoe size means nothing :(

[dirt.in.my.eyes]

what do you all do to get excited for the OFFICIAL measurement? I mean...sure i get horny and erect about 3 times a day...interspersed. But I stumbled across your forum here(I'm enthralled) and now I just have a fuckin academic INTEREST. I really want to measure myself..but i'm too bloody interested to get horny. I guess I'm going to have to trick myself somehow...later or have real memory and wait until I get horny then RUSH to the foruM!!!! or the ruler....whichever is closest.


anyway so. distantly. fucking. pleased. to. be. here. I'll have to catch up later, im away for a while. I'll be back. Mark these pre-fab-molded symbols!

[pedret]

17 cm lenght
14 cm girth

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[abhchelms]

That was my beginning erect length. Between 5.5 and 5.89. I always knew I was right in that average or close to average group.

[Asio Doxos]

I was extremely surprised to be starting at 133 mm. I was 114 mm last time I measured (about a year ago) and it didn't look any bigger to me (though I see it all the time :lol:). But I guess I still had a last-minute spurt of growth left in my teens, huh? I haven't started PE yet so 133 mm was a pleasant surprise and a good motivator.

[jasondun]

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[BangBow]

Can my dick enlarged?:confused:

[chazlian]

started at 5.5" and up to just over 6" already.

you absolute f**king beauty.

[Blink2000]

wohoo, I'm voter 772. I started at 6" exactly.

[Dangoose]

Hello, I just joined cheekycherry today but I am not new to PE. I have the book "Exercising the penis" by Aaron Kemmer. I have been exercising since June but have only noticed an increase in girth...hardly any in length which is my main focus. I need some pointers from somebody that has been successful with penile exercising, particularly length. I would appreciate any feedback.