Got a IR Lamp today

[MagnumXL]

Got a 250 IR Lamp today and a reflector. All in all cost ~ $16. Im gonna get back into PE officially and use the IR Lamp as much as possible. I will post results when i see them. :D

['TheBugKahuna']

Are you going to try a different routine or the same routine you did last time?
Otherwise how do you know if your growth will be associated with the IR light, instead of just because of a new routine.

[MagnumXL]

Did i say anything about a new routine? :mrgreen

[BIGOKE]

I would be very interested to know your progress. I am in the process of importing one. BTW you can use it for injuries recovery, arthiritis, and inflammation etc. Be careful to keep it at least 8 - 10 inch away from the contact area as you can get burned if too close. Good luck. :wink:

[MagnumXL]

I just finished my first exercise with it and damn my penis feels... well... warm even 15 minutes after the workout. Feels good. I kept it on before as a warmup, during, and after as a warm down.

[BIGOKE]

I knew it, I'm getting mine soon. I believe youre gonna see some good gains soon mate. :D

[BIGOKE]

Urm I read that there might be a concern about eye protection so try not to let it shine directly into your eyes or wear like sunglasses or something when you use it.

[hugh g rection]

Sweet, radiation burns. :mrgreen

['TheBugKahuna']

Did i say anything about a new routine? :mrgreen

Just making a suggestion. :puke:

[Clockers]

If this really works i will be amazed.

[Shane_Bos]

Lets just hope it doesnt shrivel up and die due to the concentration of heat :D

[MagnumXL]

If this really works i will be amazed.

If the PE theory so far is correct, this is the holy grail. If this does NOT work then the whole application of heat with PE is not entirely true.

[Bobo]

If this does NOT work then the whole application of heat with PE is not entirely true.
There has been no doubt about that, never. It's not a myth, it's pure physics... almost any material gets more flexible when heated up (the electrons start moving), and the penile tissue definately is one of them. The best way to get heat inside the shaft is with warm water, it transfers the heat into the tissue much more efficiently than anything else. That IR thingy may work, but I doubt it would work better than water. Heat is essential in PE.

[MagnumXL]

There has been no doubt about that, never. It's not a myth, it's pure physics... almost any material gets more flexible when heated up (the electrons start moving), and the penile tissue definately is one of them. The best way to get heat inside the shaft is with warm water, it transfers the heat into the tissue much more efficiently than anything else. That IR thingy may work, but I doubt it would work better than water. Heat is essential in PE.


Although it may be true water may initally heat it up better, you cant keep it warm unless u reapply over and over which is a pain in the ass. With this lamp I just keep it on throughout the whole routine and it keeps it nice and warm. I have never gotten a better workout, so im gonna stick with it. The thing is, it can only help.

[BIGOKE]

According to rsults posted in another forum, ( I can't find the post on the forum) the IR lamp keeps the tissue warm throughout the training session and there are very significant gains in flaccid size in the beggining both length and girth. The light rays penetrate the tissue to a depth of 3 inches. IR lamps are used by physiotherapists and reflexologists to dilate the capilliaries promote blood flow, which by the way is what we try to do with hot wraps. Infra red light is a form of radiation that occurs naturally. It is on the outer range of the light spectrum and invisible to the naked eye. It has been proven to be harmless to the human body and specifically used for generating heat or in applications like cellular technology and remote controls etc. In fact mostly benefits have been reported from human use and the only concern is that the lamp must not be too close to the body for fear of burns from the concentrated light source. it is recommended to keep the light at least 8 - 15 inches away from the target area.

My lamp is coming next week. Oh Yeah Baby!!

[BIGOKE]

I found the post from the other forum.



What i am doing is kind of warmup during the whole session!! Well you might be asking how this is possible...well just remove the wet towel thoughts from your mind and through them in the next corner

The magic word is:

!!!! INFRARED LAMP !!!!

everyone of you might buy this for a few bucks!

Place the lamp in front of your penis and start your exercise after some minutes of warmup time. The effect of an infrared lamp is much more intense than a towel since the infrared light goes deep into the tissue of your penis and underbelly and expands every vein within increasing blood flow tremendously after about only 5-7 Minutes!!

Since the warm light does not disturb you during your session you can perform the whole session in front of the light!

I can tell you, the effect is unbelievable! and holds much longer than ever.

Additionally i recognized that my penis now erects much harder and faster than before! It feels really great. Even my girlfriend who is not so much into big penis maniacs and things like that told me that i should continue my exercises since the feeling of my penis during sex and foreplay is now extremly more intense than before. The penis during the "Infrared Session" feels very flexible due to the penetrating warm light!

I started my training several years ago with different techniques and some longer breaks:
Girth: 12,3 cm (4,92") (erected)
Length: 16,5 cm (6,6") (erected) (measured by the official method used in medical studies by stretching the penis to maximum and measuring from the shaft to the glans (without pushing the tape measure deeply into the underbelly like many of you do to gain an inch more ))


After continuing training from the beginning of this year with the above method i reached the following measure after a session or commonly after being erected:
Girth: 14,5cm (5,8")
Length: 18,5 -19cm ( 7,4")

When i was using a pump in between the length increased during pumping to
about 20,4cm ( 8,2") but having some burst of small veins...that was too risky to my opinion (everyone of us has only one penis )so i skipped pumping!

[wern]

Im sold. I will buy one today. I hope I gain girth from it. :)

[Clockers]

I'll wait for the results.

[Shane_Bos]

Me too :cool

[MagnumXL]

I will post results as soon as i see them. I have started my new PE routine today. Im gonna STICK TO IT! Im keeping logs of all my measurments and my workouts in a notebook i bought today.

[wern]

hmm i can't find any IR lamps in Oz. Where did you get yours from Magnum. What kind of a store was it. I wonder if a hardware store or a lighting shop will have one, because the internet sure doesn't come up with anything

[BIGOKE]

wern check with exotic pet stores. I know it sounds funny, but those guys have been using those lamps for years for iguanas and snake enclosures to keep the reptiles warm. They are the exactsame lamps you're looking for. Or try this site http://besttdplamps.com/ but they're in China and a little expensive.

[wern]

the strongest lamp i can find is 150W. I wonder if that is strong enough. Seems like 150W is pretty hot. But Magnum uses 250W

[MagnumXL]

Yeah i went to Home De-pot (stoner joke =[) Anyway, yeah i got 250 watt and it works great. I have my boxers on and put my dick out in the little pee-opening thing so my balls dont get hot and i dont end up being sterile. I recommend a 250 watt cuz it seems to really penetrate deep in the tissues of my dick.

[wern]

well i definately cant find a 250W. also I researched it quite a bit and it seems that the bulbs aren't as effective as ceramic lamps (also infrared), as the lamps use a longer wave length, so tissue is penetrated much better (apparently). I found the post from the other forum (by bigoke) and looked at the responses to it (there was 9 pages of responses) and the consensus seemed to be that there is a lot less sweating from the 150W ceramic lamp than the 150W globe, and the inner tissue feels warmer from the lamp.

Also the same menufacturers of IR ceramic lamps and IR globes say this about the ceramic lamps (the manufacturer is Exo Terra (http://www.exo-terra.com/EN/products/heat_wave_lamp_i.html)):
(By the way, to the mods, this is a product for reptiles, so I don't believe I am spamming but if I am, please remove, and my apologies)

The Exo Terra Heat Wave Lamp is a radiant heat source and creates a natural sun-like heat with a uniform pattern. The long wave infrared heat produced by this emitter will warm reptiles very efficiently. It also increases the ambient air-temperature in the terrarium. Infrared heat penetrates the scales and skin tissue, promoting health and healing as it widens the blood vessels and increases blood circulation. The Heat Wave Lamp is to be used only with the specially designed Exo Terra Wire Light (http://www.exo-terra.com/EN/products/wire_light_heating_i.html).

Their description for the other product, the Heat Glo (a bulb, the common type such as those found in Home Depot) doesn't mention anything like the above paragraph, so I don't really know what differentiates the two, except from the reports on the other forum which obviously I won't link to or mention.

Since ther prices for the two products are similar (these are the only two IR lamps I can purchase in Oz), I will go with the 150W ceramic lamp.

[BIGOKE]

Good on yer wern, I think that you are making the best choice. The ceramic 150 w seems to get as good results as the 250w normal lamp. Let us know how it goes. I'm getting mine this week. All I know is that it is a Phillips. I'm getting it through a buddy of mine, so I hope it will be the right thing.

[Baseballer8]

Call me a skeptic but "Long Wave Infrared Light"??? TO my understanding infared light falls in a small spectrum of the light scale. I highly doubt that minute differences in wavelenghts of the infrared light would cause much of a difference as opposed to the other sources of infrared light in that spectrum. It sounds like some tricky advertising to make you pay more than needed but tell us how it goes.

[MagnumXL]

Call me a skeptic but "Long Wave Infrared Light"??? TO my understanding infared light falls in a small spectrum of the light scale. I highly doubt that minute differences in wavelenghts of the infrared light would cause much of a difference as opposed to the other sources of infrared light in that spectrum. It sounds like some tricky advertising to make you pay more than needed but tell us how it goes.


I agree. Both lamps do the same regardelss but get what you think is right. I would like to compare our results.

[BIGOKE]

I don't get the long wave, short wave stuff. All I have seen so far is what they call near infrared, medium infrared and far infrared. All of them give off heat but far infrared is best able to penetrate the tissues of the human body to a depth of about 3-4 inches. The others to a lesser extent, with near infrared basically heating mostly the outside of the skin.

[wern]

far = longwave


BB8, I looked into it so that I wouldn't waste my $$$ and time. According to the data I looked up, longwave IR is commonly used for healing purposes as it warms and expands tissue. Someone doing PE on another forum connected the dots and started using IR in conjunction with PE and reports he has benefited from it. Anyways, I have injuries which cause me chronic pain now and then so I can use my IR lamp to treat the pain.

I had a session yesterday and it felt warm throughout. Very nice. Also it expanded a lot more during holds and ulis and considering how big it got, I can't see any injuries except 2 tiny spots less than the 1mm in size. And I don't feel any pain except for when I urinate )I am getting the acidy feeling) but that could be due to the fact I am hardly drinking any liquids. oops.

[wern]

There has been no doubt about that, never. It's not a myth, it's pure physics... almost any material gets more flexible when heated up (the electrons start moving), and the penile tissue definately is one of them. The best way to get heat inside the shaft is with warm water, it transfers the heat into the tissue much more efficiently than anything else. That IR thingy may work, but I doubt it would work better than water. Heat is essential in PE.

Bobo I disagree. Water is probably the best form of heating up the penis using cpnvection and conduction. (convection for when the water warms up the tissue on the outside of the shaft, then conduction as the iner tissue is warmed by the external). But there is heat loss as the water cools down from the temperature of the shaft and so by the time the heat energy reaches the inner tissue the temperature has dropped significantly. Also you can't kee it warm during the actual exercise.

The IR beam works using radiation, and the longwave IR beam doesn't get absorbed by the skin, instead it goes right through it and is evenly absorbed by all tissues, which means that there is much less chance of burning than with other methods of heat transfer.

And IR isn't dangerous at all. Unless you point it into your eyes.

so IR =
- less mess
- constant heat throughout PE session
- more efficient warmup

[MagnumXL]

wern has stds.

[Shane_Bos]

Call me a skeptic

You're a skeptic.

[mixedveg]

would a UV light work in the same way? I have a facial solarium thingy and was wondering if that'd do the trick. I suffer from really bad red spots even though i hardly put any pressure on at all!

[Baseballer8]

Thank you Shane :cool I was waiting for that one :mrgreen


Actually Wern I know that IR has many healing benefits to it. I was just questioning the claim of far wave IR light as opposed to close wave IR light, since the spectrum for that light is rather small. Once I get in the dorm again and have my own room I will get one if only so it is easier to warm up. Its just do you pay for the regular IR lamp or extra for the "longwave" IR lamp.

[wern]

short wave IR is supposed to be absorbed more by the skin, so less energy passes into the inner tissues.

It is very hard to get an IR lamp or bulb etc here in Australia. I ended up going to a pet store and getting a lamp for reptiles because it is commonly used for that purpose. In america home depot has phlillips IR bulbs that are pretty cheap. So you may be able to find IR lamps in places similar to Home Depot or at Home Depot.In US the bulb costs approx $10. You also need a special holder as the bulb gets very hot. I think the lamp holder is something like $10-20.

I got a ceramic heating lamp which isn't a light bulb, it just radiates IR heat. I got it because I read on annother forum that it was better, but this is such a new concept to PEing (from what I have read) that it may not be any different to regular glass IR bulbs. Because it is so hard to come by I paid a lot. I paid, if translated to US dollars, $80 US. ut this was the only store selling any IR lamp whatsoever that is 150W. And I checked for 2 days. All sorts of different stores, and websites. So you'd probably be able to pick up the same settup I have for $40-50 US. I am using Exo-Terra Heat Wave lamp and a lamp holder with a reflector (the lamp shade is a metallic reflector that directs the IR to a point)

And by the way magnum, I think I realise why I was getting stinging urine - I am on herbal medication for a flu so it is highly likely that its the residyue being excreted :x

[MagnumXL]

wern dont take it the wrong way... I will still keep fucking u at night.

[wern]

:x

:lol:

[thegreatego]

Can someone post a link to what you guys are talking about (like the lamp). Because i'm having trouble getting the basic idea.

[MagnumXL]

www.google.com

[Shane_Bos]

Google sell lamps?

[MagnumXL]

They also sell robots

[wern]

http://go.to/IR20%lamps

[BIGOKE]

Got mine on Friday. 150w normal bulb. Tried it out Friday and this morning. It gives a good warm up and keeps the penis warm throughout. Just a bummer for privacy with this wierd red glow all around. Also the warmth stays for quite a while after. Let see if results follow. :lol:

[BIGOKE]

Okay heres a mini feedback.
I can't connect the lamp in the bathroom where I do most of my PE. Usually late at night when the little lady is fast asleep. So I've been using it basically as a recovery tool between PE sessions to help with healing. Since the beginning of this week I been using it 20 mins in the morning before work and 20 mins in the evening before PE. So for the past few days I've noticed a nicer flaccid look from the increased blood flow. It seems like the blood spaces do not collapse as much after using the lamp. I,ve also noticed that there are two types of stretches. One stretches the chambers and the other the ligament. Ive been doing variations of these and yesterday for the first time I noticed that after the warm up stretching and first round of wet j I did extra stretching and the ligs stretched a little further than before. Also wetj was very good, I've never had so much blood in the shaft even at 50% erection. So far it looks positive, I'm not saying rush out and buy yours yet because the proof will be in the measuring and thats still weeks away yet. But I am saying start considering.

Wern and Mags hows it going with you guys?

[wern]

I haven't PE'd for a while. I think I injured myself once again. I am going too hard in my PE sessions. No more erect jelqs for me. So I have to recover from the latest injury. This will be injury number 10 or so. Nothing major (I hope).

[Bobo]

Sometimes it's wise to listen to Bobo. :wink:

[Valk]

But many times its not. :wink:

[Bobo]

True, if You don't want to gain. :wink:

[Valk]

Gain what? Bodyhair?

[Bobo]

Brain cells, hopefully. :wink:

[wern]

I have been listening to you Bobo. It just didn't feel as if I was doing damage. I only realised after the actual sessions. I didn't feel pain or anything. It'l be hard to do lower intensity sessions because it doesn't feel high-intensity to begin with. But I am not stressing about it. I am a very patient person (usually).

[Bobo]

Well, now that You're injured You're really a "patient". I hope You heal fast, take it easier in the future.

[wern]

Injury is gone now hehehe. I'll still wait another week. The important thing is that I was trying not to overtrain. I have been body building since I was a teenager so I know the importance of not overtraining.

[SLowlybutsurely]

You were doing fully erect jelqs?

[wern]

yep. very slow jelqs. almost ulis. Each jelqs took between 5-15 seconds and involved kegelling. I think it is a good exercise, but my penis either isn't ready for it yet, or I need to go easier until the end of the workout and then do a couple of these.

[Bobo]

Exercises like those You described should never be done in the start of the session, no matter how well You warmed up. Regular jelqing and careful stretching prepares the tissue much better for higher strain, and that's why the straining exercises should be done in the second half of the session. I sometimes did another warmup after the jelqs and before the holds, and I believe that's a wise move for anyone.

[MagnumXL]

Exercises like those You described should never be done in the start of the session, no matter how well You warmed up. Regular jelqing and careful stretching prepares the tissue much better for higher strain, and that's why the straining exercises should be done in the second half of the session. I sometimes did another warmup after the jelqs and before the holds, and I believe that's a wise move for anyone.


Thats why i got the IR lamp. Im warmed up the whooooooole damn time :cool

[wern]

Bobo, I never do those exercises at the start of the session. Here';s what I do:
warmup - 10min
100 wet jelqs - very light, erection 40-70% (so that I won't get any read spots on the head, which now I never get)
then slow erect jelqs (that i described above) until the end of the session, with holds/Ulis here and there.
I think though that I will need to simply do less of these jelqs/kelqs/Ulis altogether, and do lighter ones.

[MagnumXL]

I havent measured my erect legnth yet cuz i recently got back into PE. I have already noticed results from using the IR lamp. My flacid has just SKYROCKETED! im roughly 5 1/2 inches length and 4 3/4 inches girth while flacid. It aint bad considering my usual flacid sucked ass. Hope to see some more gains coming. :cool

[SLowlybutsurely]

And this flacid size exists while you're just walking around/eating salad/talking to your mom or sister on the phone (i.e. all the time)?

[wern]

i am 4.5" bp flaccid. its the first time i've ever measured and its the smallest flaccid length I have (ie in cold weather). I wouldn't have a clue if that's a good stat, because I never cared about flaccid length as it is so volatile. If you ave a developed PC muscle you can easily increase it on command with kegelling, which I have done on numerous occasions :cool

[MagnumXL]

And this flacid size exists while you're just walking around/eating salad/talking to your mom or sister on the phone (i.e. all the time)?


yep it does!

BTW This is not bone pressed flacid length. my BP would be even higher. <3 ir lamp!

[HungWong]

caught my attention, the towel gets cold too fast unless i wrap another towel around it and then when im, actually jelqing and need to "warm down" I always hafta go back and reapply warm water, I might just try this out...

[tinytim]

Hi Wern,

where abouts did you purchase your heat lamp and holder from? Was
it from a big franchise or a smaller shop...

I am from Aus too (sydney).

How are the views on the IR going now?

Thanks man.

[wern]

I got it from a pet store. I forgot what it's called but lots of them have it. Call up and ask for a IR lamp for reptiles. If they ask too many questions tell them its for chronic pain from an injury you had on your foot or something.

I haven't PE'd that much since getting the lamp but the penis feels warm when PE'ing and I think it's important to keep it warm and expanded because it reduces chance of injury,.

[BIGOKE]

For me its having a positive effect on erect girth and flaccid size. No length so far.

[tinytim]

ok thanks guys keep us posted and good luck.

I think if its affecting erect girth length gains will follow...

im going to get me one

[BIGOKE]

Anyone still using IR lamps for PE? I have used mine a couple of times in the last few weeks and boy are the sessions good. I just wish the missus would go out more often. I used it yesterday with my girth routine and boy did it look good. only the routine i think was too intense because I noticed some purple spots on the bottom of my glans. :x I have gained some girth in the last few weeks but mainly around the glans area. It seems the glans is outgrowing the foreskin and the skin feels a lot tighter around the glans when erect. When I cant use the IR lamp i use the usual Hot Wrap, but somehow it dosen't give the same effect as the lamp. BTW sex is great with new improved MR Johnson and the missus now insists on giving head every time. Never happened before, no more begging! :D

[hugh g rection]

So anyone actually seen any measurable gains with a ruler or tape, not just "it feels meatier"?

[BIGOKE]

1/3 inch in girth since November 2005 mid shaft.

[MagnumXL]

Nice job Biggie. Always feels good to gain girth man :D

[BIGOKE]

Thanx Mags hows your IR training going?

[MagnumXL]

Dude I never got another bulb after my mine got smashed :cry: Im using an electric blanket for now. I will definitely get another IR lamp... once... I stop being lazy :p

[hugh g rection]

1/3 inch in girth since November 2005 mid shaft.

Nice. When did you start IR use?

[BIGOKE]

I got my lamp around the middle of last year but haven't used it consistently. I really wish i could because it makes a dramatic difference to the training. In the past. I would warm up for 5 mins but now I found that within 2-3 mins I'm ready to start stretches. I also found out that it warms up the lube and makes it more effective. Anyway i'm not too bummed about not using it consistently because my missus is starting to enjoy the new size which hasn't been too dramatic. I'll just continue to take it slow, so long as the gains keep comming.

[Steve Madden]

I really like mr IR lamp as well. It's easy to use and there's virtually no cleanup involved.

[Torpedo]

So are there any testicular risks with IR lamps? I managed to find two seperate studies. The first study was about using IR on rabbits' testicles to sterilize them. The second was about the possible long-term fertility risks to males that using a laptop on your lap might cause. So is allowing an IR beam to hit your testicles putting your fertility at risk? Any thoughts?

[wern]

Back in the old days when I actually looked into studies about health effects of IR lamps I found at least 2 studies that found that extended heat above 110 F to the testicles over a long period of time (ie 30mins every day for a few weeks or something) can create temporary sterility, but nothing specific to IR.

[The Assman]

I just stick to my shower or rice sock...its the best if you dont have a lot of privacy!

[wern]

Doesnt your rice sock start to smell bad after you have warmed it up in the microwave enough times?

[PepeLePew]

Great thread...picking up one of these soon!

No more suspicious back to back showers after hour long sessions lol.

[jarhead]

Great thread...picking up one of these soon!

No more suspicious back to back showers after hour long sessions lol.

Funny, we have all been there.

[PepeLePew]

Still haven't got one, but I'm going to try to go to the store tomorrow for sure.

[jason12]

Doesnt your rice sock start to smell bad after you have warmed it up in the microwave enough times?

you can use flax seeds and it should work better than rice. It also wont smell.

[Torpedo]

OK, I still haven't seen a couple of issues addressed.

1. Are IR lamps appropriate for beginners, or do they cause too intense of a workout for someone just starting out (from the increased stretch).

2. Is anyone protecting their eyes when using IR lamps? IR causes premature cataracts.

[PepeLePew]

You can use the IR lamp at any time, being a beginner does not matter. IR lamp does not replace stretching. Your IR lamp is for use in your warmup and warmdown, though I use it through my entire workout.

For your 2nd question...I'm not totally sure about that. I just don't look directly at the light or anything. Someone else will probably be able to comment on that for you.

[jason12]

I noticed it messed with my eyes even if I wasn't directly looking at it. Try to shield it some how if possible. Another reason why I put the ir lamp away.

[PepeLePew]

I noticed it messed with my eyes even if I wasn't directly looking at it. Try to shield it some how if possible. Another reason why I put the ir lamp away.

What?!? WHAT?? What other reasons? It is that bad?

[wern]

My IR lamp is in an enclosure, This is the enclosure that I use:
http://pet.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pPETS-3758807t400.jpg

So I can hardly ever look directly at the light, since it faces downwards towards my dick.

[PepeLePew]

What is that top cover made out of wern? I need something like that. I had an aluminum cover come with my connector & clamp, etc. but it was way too small for the bulb and aluminium so would probably melt. Right now I just have the bulb open, with the clamp attached to a leather office chair so it won't slip and the bulb is pointed down diagonally toward my penis.

Perhaps you could also wear some shades (glasses) to protect your eyes as well.

[jason12]

What?!? WHAT?? What other reasons? It is that bad?

I have had it fall and almost burn me more than once. The thing gets hot as hell and is a pain to handle. I get way too hot sitting under it. Too much time spent just to cover my body for a warmup. Always found it hard to get that right distance for the best warmup. My clamp ruined my chair too when it slid off and dug into the soft wood of the chair. Also I can't just put it away when it is done because it gets so hot. I like to finish up and clean up in the same time frame. Not wait to put away some lamp. I felt a better warmup when using something involving liquid. Rice sock does a good job but I think moisture plays a big part in that.

[Clint_Eastwood]

IR causes premature cataracts.
How do you know?

[PepeLePew]

Always found it hard to get that right distance for the best warmup. My clamp ruined my chair too when it slid off and dug into the soft wood of the chair.

That may be the problem. I have it clamped onto the arm of a leather chair and it doesn't move at all. The chair is also rollable to if the light is too close or too far I can usually just use my leg to move it.

[jason12]

yeah but wouldn't you want to move it up or down not back or forward. Moving it farther away from your body would make it hit a larger area of your body which was one of my complaints in the 1st place lol. I like the rice sock for now though I wish I had something thinner and wider so I didn't had to like spin it around my penis.

[PepeLePew]

I don't really mind it hitting other areas of my body as well. Maybe you just get hotter easier than me. I sometimes just put my feet up to the bulb because my feet are always cold for some reason, bad circulation there I guess.

[Torpedo]

How do you know?

I don't have any specific studies in mind, but I've definitely heard it before. Isn't that one of the reasons why welders wear such expensive eye protection? And I'm definitely thinking IR, not UV.

[G-Spot19]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6130705/Infrared-Radiation

Scroll down and it lists a lot of dangers of IR. it also says it takes a lot of exposure to cause the damages.

[Torpedo]

Does shining a 250W IR bulb in your eyes for 45 minutes three time a week count?

[PepeLePew]

Lol, damn. I don't really try to look directly into mine, but we should
both definately try to get one of those covers wern posted just to
be safe.

[Baseballer8]

Personally I like my heating pad more, for the sole fact that it is just a heck of a lot easier to stow away and less risk involved, though the warmup isn't as good.

[PepeLePew]

How about you and your heating pad get a room BB8...huh, huh...huh?

:D

[Clint_Eastwood]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6130705/Infrared-Radiation

Scroll down and it lists a lot of dangers of IR. it also says it takes a lot of exposure to cause the damages.
Thanks for the link.
I guess a lot of exposure (like working near the furnace:wink: ) will do damage. However when used sparingly it should not be dangerous. After all there are such things as infrared saunas which claim a lot of health benefits. Also let's not forget that sun radiates IR all the time.

[Torpedo]

Yeah, but you have to be careful about sun exposure, too. Honestly, the IR lamp is such a hassle that I'm going to to experiment with other warm-up methods for awhile.

[wern]

What is that top cover made out of wern? I need something like that. I had an aluminum cover come with my connector & clamp, etc. but it was way too small for the bulb and aluminium so would probably melt. Right now I just have the bulb open, with the clamp attached to a leather office chair so it won't slip and the bulb is pointed down diagonally toward my penis.

Perhaps you could also wear some shades (glasses) to protect your eyes as well.

The metal conically shaped cover is some form of metal. The actual piece that holds the light bulb is made of ceramic. In Sydney, Australia you can buy the cover from most pet stores, since it is a common product for reptile owners. When I went to my store and was asked what sort of reptiles I had, I told them the IR lamp and enclosure was for an old injury (since IR is used to treat chronic injuries).

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6130705/Infrared-Radiation

Scroll down and it lists a lot of dangers of IR. it also says it takes a lot of exposure to cause the damages.

I looked through this list and it's actually motivating to use an IR lamp. It lists the effects from IR, but the effects aren't bad:
Cutaneous Vasodilatation leading to Eryhema: this, in english means: that the IR heat will cause your skin to redden.

Take into consideration that IR radiation isn't a dangerous thing, unless taken to extremes. The dangers to your eyes come from the heat of the IR. It dries them out and heats them up. But a normal person can feel this happening. And this is stated in this document that you provided G.

[PepeLePew]

Thanks for the reply wern. I'll try to see if my local pet stores
have some of them.

[G-Spot19]

I agree. The pro's outweigh the con's by far. The only way it can be dangerous is if you over expose yourself. An IR lamp should do nothing more than cause burns and that from it falling on you or something. I want one.

[giorgio]

I have been using an IR lamp for a week now. It is fantastic for PE. I can get better expansion and I haven't had any red spots.

However...

It does mess with my eyes. I don't look directly at the bulb but you cant avoid the light, it fills the whole room. Even if you were to close your eyes it wouldn't help because its IR, it goes through skin.

Now maybe i'm being paranoid. The instructions that came with the lamp even suggest using it on your face to help with cold and flu symptoms, keeping your eyes closed of course but my eyes feel weird after using it on my penis and I don't like this.

I've read that there is very little data available on this subject and I don't think premature blindness is worth taking the risk.

On the other hand...
Am I right in understanding that IR light is just heat? Is there a reason that the lamps give off a red light? Is an IR lamp just a very hot red lightbulb? If its just heat, then as long as your eyes are kept cool it should be ok. Am i right?

[PepeLePew]

I just started wearing my shades while I'm PEing with the IR lamp. :cool

No biggie. :cool

[Torpedo]

giorgio: My thoughts exactly. And you can get red or white IR bulbs. You must have a red one. It's just a coating on the bulb. The IR itself is invisible to the naked eye.

Pepe: They may work for UV, but IR has a different wavelength. You can buy IR-blocking sunglasses, but I think they're expensive.

[giorgio]

Today i was thinking of ways of protecting my eyes. One could wear those cooling gel things that go on your eyes like a pair of glasses to protect your eyes from the heat. Then I thought of how it would look when someone burst into my room and im holding my dick under an infrared lamp, looking at porn, wearing cool gel glasses.

[PepeLePew]

LMFAO! Why not just lock your door? Though that doesn't stop everyone!

:evil:

[giorgio]

I have been doing more research on IR. According to this

http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/image_galleries/ir_zoo/lessons/background.html

IR is mostly blocked by glass. This is supported by this

http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-13038.html

so it should be safer to use an IR lamp just by wearing glasses.

[G-Spot19]

If you do some more research you will see that IR is only said to be dangerous at industry high heat. IR is used in cameras, computers, PDA's, night vision. thermal imaging, cooking ovens, saunas, and in healthcare treating arthritis, injuries, and muscle pain. Also, 49% of the heating of the earth is from IR heat from the sun.