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[Jelqster]

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(6.6 BP) - 6" NBP x 4.9

[Jelqster]

out of interest.. http://www.redtube.com/3038

how much bigger is this guys dick to mine, if its bigger?

[oldie42]

What are your goals and what did you start out at?

Not sure what you are looking to do in the long term but I'd concentrate on doing girth exercises and get your girth up. Length will come as a byproduct, don't worry.

[Jelqster]

cheers for the advice oldie... im just aiming for as big a penis as possible... I think more length would be good... what makes you suggest i train for girth with length as a pure byproduct? You think i need girth more or?

[Jelqster]

my girth stands at around:

4.9 mid shaft
5.6 base shaft

My length stands at around:

BP - 6.6 inches
NBP - 6 inches

[ownd]

your dick looks even all the way up, how is your base girth so much higher?

[Jelqster]

If you are looking at your own penis from your point of view at the opposite side (the back of the penis) moving from the bottom to the top in the center of the shaft there is what feels like a long thick tube, it is particularly dominant and thick at the base of my penis and gradualy looses its density as it nears the top untiil at the top it is non existant.

[oldie42]

That "tube" you refer to starts at the base with a muscle. I think its called bulbus somethingarother...I don't remember. BC muscle maybe? Anyways, you shouldn't really go by that girth because its pretty much always going to be like that.

Also, I say go for girth because that's mainly what the ladies are going to gawk at. Sure a long cock may give a wow effect, but it doesn't really do anything in bed. Now a fat cock to stretch her open....that's a different story.

Now, doing girth exercises, you will gain length as well...trust me. Just stop with the length exercises because they probably aren't doing a whole lot anyways. I stopped doing them and magically I started to grow in both directions.

[Jelqster]

wow interesting advice there oldie... deffinately! what sort of routine do you or did you follow to recieve those gains?

[oldie42]

Mainly the more advanced exercises. Holds, erect jelqing, yadda yadda. They are intense exercises, but if done correctly are safe and give awesome gains.

I believe that if you already erect, and then you force more blood into the chambers, you will benefit way more than if you were flaccid or semi-erect doing exercises.

I am now a little bit over 9" length (not bone pressed either) and 6.25" girth. But let me tell you...having a long penis really doesn't do anything for the lady. If she's not opened up all the way, your whole dick isn't going to go in. If you stay between 7 and 8 inches, I'm sure you can fit it all in without hitting the cervix.

[Jelqster]

HOLY SHIT OLDIE... how big were you when you started? and how long have you been PEing? :icon_surprised: :icon_surprised: :icon_surprised: :icon_surprised: :icon_surprised:


Also... what sort of routine in terms of days on and off do you reccomend? or what worked best for you yourself?

[oldie42]

I started in 2002, at about 6.5x5. Gains don't happen overnight...they take time. But if you are consistant and change your routine up every month, you will see pretty steady and great gains.

I'd say if you did PE every other day for two weeks then take 3 days off then start all over again, you will see great results.

[wern]

hmmm, very interesting. I am going to do try that Oldie.

[Jelqster]

yeh im joining in wern haha! But oldie, what is your take on stretching? You talked about purely doing girth exercises... but stretches???

[oldie42]

I diid stretching and heli-shakes as warmup/cooldown. I would recommend doing all exercises in the shower. That way you can keep your penis warm and keep the blood pumping to it good. It will also loosen up the ligaments and "casing" that runs right under the skin.

[Jelqster]

hmmm, oldie do you think stretching contributes alot to length gains?

[oldie42]

In all honesty, yes and no. Yes it contributes minutely to flaccid length gains mainly because the ligaments are becoming more stretched out. But your erect length is attributed more to how much blood is filling the chambers and expanding your penis.

Think of this. When a guy has surgery done to lengthen his penis, they cut the ligament that runs along the top of your penis. Yea, they cut it in half but the length gain is only half an inch or less. So if completely eliminating the ligament only produces < 1/2" then what do you think your manual stretching is really doing?

[Jelqster]

wow, good points there Oldie! Im learning an awful lot from this thread! shit...
Well from now on... stretches are going to be PART of a warmup...
my routine is going to look more like this:

- 10 min warm up stretches and helis IN the shower.
- 10 minutes dry jelqs
- 10 minutes various holds
- 10 minutes wet jelqs
- 5 min warm down

I will do this every other day

one day on one day off and then i will switch it up every 2-3 weeks with a few days rest in between.

[oldie42]

To be honest with you, 45 minutes is a bit long. Try something like this...

3 different stretches in the shower. After you do one stretch, do heli-shakes for 15 seconds, then move on to the next stretch. After your last stretch, do 20 to 30 second heli-shake to get blood flowing to your penis. Make sure you stretch hard...but only to the point right before it hurts. This will ensure you're getting a good stretch. Also, hold each stretch for two minutes. This should come out to 7 or 8 minutes for a warmup.

For your routine, I would completely get rid of wet jelqs. Seriously. To be honest I've never liked them. You cannot have as good of a grip and the blood seems to just move right under the skin and not deep within where you want it to. Sure, with dry jelqs your skin is going to move with your upward motion, but its a better exercise in my opinion.

Do about 5-7 minutes of dry jelqs. Start off at 75% erection and after 2 or 3 minutes, go on to 100% erect jelqs. Squeeze hard, but not to the point of hurting yourself. If you don't see the head of your penis getting huge as fuck then you aren't doing it right. **As a kicker, if you want to get the most out of it, do a kegel and hold it. If you do it right, you will see your penis expand with blood on its own. After that, grab the base of your cock hard and let the kegel go...then do your jelq.**

After you're done with the jelqs, then go on to your holds. Good one to do is just like I mentioned above. Do a kegel, when you fill up with a lot of blood, grab the base and squeeze. Hold for 30 seconds. If it starts to hurt, SLOWLY release your grip. Do not release it fast and all at once! You risk damage to the veins and capillaries in your penis.

If you see red spots, this is normal. They will go away. Don't panic and don't worry. If there's a bruise or extreme pain like you busted a vessel, go to the doctor. This has not happened to me and I'm probably the most extreme exerciser here.

After you've done 3 or 4 different holds, jelq at 75% erect again for a minute or two. Slow jelqs...this will also be your warm down. Try and let your erection subside as you jelq. When you become flaccid, give it one last quick stretch and watch him hang. Don't mess with him for at least a couple hours after. If you have a pussy hot and ready, go for it...otherwise leave him alone. No, this is not the 5 hour rule, but it is a bit of recouperation from a strenuous stimulus.

[Codzilla]

Oldie and Threat, you have given me new vision in my PE. To be honest i have been doing more wet jelqs than any other exercise, and havent seen much or anything in the past 2-3 months. I think i'm going to hop onto your girth bus and do more girth exercises. At least i dont need to get messy with lube and can do a good session in front of porn. Oldie im going to take your advice in this thread into consideration. Reps for you for all this.

[oldie42]

Yea man stick with what I said for a month and then see how you measure up. Take measurements before, then after one month. Don't cheat and measure in between sometime. Go for a full month and I'm telling you, you will be happy.

[Jelqster]

fantastic advice, REALY appreciated. Huge boost for motivation here.


so written out fast:

new routine:




A) 5-10 minutes of 3-4, 2 min stretches helis in between.

B) 75% dry jelqs
100% dry jelqs

C) Various holds, 3-4 diferent holds holding for 30 secs each.

D) Warm down jelqs at 75% and a final long stretch let the champion hang.

[wern]

Oldie, how long should each dry jelq take. The most I can seem to make each one of mine last is 3 seconds. I could make them take longer but that would be more like a hold wouldn't it?

[Jelqster]

Yea man stick with what I said for a month and then see how you measure up. Take measurements before, then after one month. Don't cheat and measure in between sometime. Go for a full month and I'm telling you, you will be happy.


Im going to Oldie. Im deffinately going to do this. I have exactly 9 days until im leaving the country for 10 DAYS, thats 10 days without PEing haha, but i will be having sex everyday for those 10 days as i will be with that girl of mine :D:D:D But after those 10 days its another 4 weeks until i will see her again! So that means....


PHASE ONE:
9 days on
-measure NOW
-measure after.


PHASE TWO:
10 days off

PHASE THREE:
4 WEEKS on.
-measure At start
-measure after.

[Jelqster]

Oldie, how long should each dry jelq take. The most I can seem to make each one of mine last is 3 seconds. I could make them take longer but that would be more like a hold wouldn't it?

mine last 2-3 seconds each I just take my time and build up a good amount of blood, its almost like a moving hold. thats how i sort of see it.

[wern]

Yeah I see it that way as well. But whatever it is, it feels good!

[oldie42]

Anywhere from 3-5 seconds would be ideal. Anything less and you really aren't getting the full effect. Anything more and you might as well skip the jelqing altogether. :shrug: (I see they put one on here :D)

[Netgear]

PHASE ONE:
9 days on
-measure NOW
-measure after.


PHASE TWO:
10 days off

PHASE THREE:
4 WEEKS on.
-measure At start
-measure after.

I would say its not very advantageous to be measuring after 9 days, you aren't going to be seeing much, if any gain.

Id suggest measure once NOW and again in 4.5-5 weeks, spending those 10days with your girl spending every second you are alone be it pissing, showering or whatever stretching and performing holds.

[Jelqster]

I would say its not very advantageous to be measuring after 9 days, you aren't going to be seeing much, if any gain.

Id suggest measure once NOW and again in 4.5-5 weeks, spending those 10days with your girl spending every second you are alone be it pissing, showering or whatever stretching and performing holds.


hmm, fair enough on the measuring, but those 10 days with my girl i will literaly be at it shagging twice a day... so i cant afford recovery time.. maybe its not a good idea to PE during those 10 days.

[oldie42]

hmm, fair enough on the measuring, but those 10 days with my girl i will literaly be at it shagging twice a day... so i cant afford recovery time.. maybe its not a good idea to PE during those 10 days.

Maybe you should post a picture of this said girl of yours.

[Jelqster]

haha no i wont do it oldie, she has a dad too, and she is around your daughters age... cmon, its almost like that other thread then isnt it ?!

[oldie42]

haha no i wont do it oldie, she has a dad too, and she is around your daughters age... cmon, its almost like that other thread then isnt it ?!

Wait...how old are you then?

[zwmusic]

Sherlock at work? :lol:

Should I get hold of my underage banning stick? :twisted:

[Jelqster]

Im 18. Your daughter is 17 i think, this girl is 18. Sherlock is wasting his time.

[zwmusic]

..........:wink:

[Jelqster]

:icon_rolleyes:

[zwmusic]

Awwwwww... I wouldn't ban you Jelqey... just joking. I know your age, you're going to be 19 on the 31st Dec, New Year's Eve. That is of course, if you're not lying.

[Jelqster]

haha ban me :icon_surprised: :icon_surprised: :icon_surprised:


it took me ages to get validated on here haha, dont do that for christ sake. im deffinately age wise allowed to be on this site. where has this conspiracy come from ? and where has the jelqster love gone?

[zwmusic]

Okay Jelqster. Do you want the slate clean? Why don't you start by explaining this (http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?t=6833).

How is it possible for you to use a laptop in jail. And if you are still in jail, how on earth can you make pics of your penis? By the way, the background on those pics doesn't remotely look like a jail.

[Jelqster]

well i didnt think anyone would believe it because it was so unrealistic... the jail thing... so that was a joke... thought more people would understand that haha. and i think i told w3 that i was just kidding later on.



there are two threads going on now about this... cmon...

[zwmusic]

That's okay then. Nothing to do with me really. I hardly have time to follow every single thread on this board nowadays. I'm not making any accusations or disputing your stories. I know some guys have been picking on you lately (like Oldie for ex.) but you must agree with me that if you start posting threads with stories which contradict one another in any way, it's natural that it will raise few eyebrows.

I'm always making jokes and being playful (well, not that much lately because I've been aggravated due to personal problems). But my main role here is to mediate and try to keep the boards free from problems. I'm NOT saying you're causing any problem, far from that. But I think it's perfectly natural for the guys to start questioning you when they begin to see a number of "inconsistencies" in your stories. Just relax and take it easy. Nobody is "falling out of love" with Jelqster. It's just what happens when there are some misunderstandings around. Perhaps if you make your points more clear (e.g. when you're joking or not), it will help to avoid misunderstandings.

[zwmusic]

it took me ages to get validated on here haha, dont do that for christ sake.

C'mom, I'm not going to ban you. I'm not a banning freak. :lol:

Once again, my apologies for taking so long to validate your account. I was away for few months and didn't see Matt's message until, well, you know when.

Few months prior to your registration, Matt promoted me as Admin and I spotted many security flaws concerning the registration process. During that time we had the most ridiculous shitstorm of spam from mainland China. CAPTCHA wasn't working and they were flooding CC with their automated shit. Matt and I restored CAPTCHA eventually, but because the mass registration of chinese spammers was so bad, I had to take further measures to stop it. The first measure was to close CC for new registration for some time (during this time Me, G-Spot and Codzilla did a complete reorganization of the boards and openned the Bodybuilding Section - G-Spot and Codzilla did a fantastic job). Then I put in place the moderation of new resgistrations to make it easier for me to trace IP addresses from mainland China prior to validation of accounts. Matt doesn't really deal with vBulletin as I have been lately, that's why he couldn't figure out why you had restrictions to post.

Those crafty fuckers still manage to sneak few posts in with their shit upon manual registration, but the moderation of new regs helps me to delete an average of 10 spammers a week from China before they get full access to the boards. They are really set on trashing CC, but I keep on deleting their new regs.

[Jelqster]

heh no problem, im not getting pissy i didnt get validated ASAP dont get me wrong... i just enjoy these boards alot and think that i do contribute a fair bit for someone who has not been here long. Ive learnt an awful lot from these boards and hope it will change my life for the better, im sure it will.

But what inconsistencies? A joke about me being in jail... cmon who is going to believe that, the posts STUNK of sarcasm... once again sarcasm sucks on the internet i suppose, but it could have been more subtle and raised MORE eyebrows. I dont know why Oldie had a seemingly sudden outburst "fucking idiot" on another thread, but he was right about some of his points regarding me posting the same sorts of questions more then once. Oldie then came onto another thread and gave some fantastic advice which has changed my view of NPE alot.

I sometimes think this forum has been "hurt" by so many spammers and fuckups out there, that its targetting one of the good guys! haha, im a genuine poster who is here to learn, have a laugh and contribute. I have better things to do with my time then lie about some girl im seeing, realy. I have posted LOADS of threads about this girl... im not lying about her for fucks sake.

Thank you for your sober posts ZW, it just suprises me that i have become victem to a conspiracy due to a joke about living in jail (how rediculous does that sound).

[zwmusic]

I know Jelqster, I was a victim myself on few occasions when I joined the boards in 2004. Godma used to be my judge and executor back then. Now he buggered off. :lol:

Sometimes it's difficult to convey sarcasm or a joke on written statements, that's why it helps to make use of the smilies, and I'm trying to bring some better and more fun ones coz the original ones were really too dull.

Just forget about it. There's no conspiracy against you... and Oldie, well he's a bastard, and we all know that. :lol: (all in good humor Oldie baby)

[Jelqster]

no worries :wink: :lol:




:shrugs: :icon_smile: :cool :wink: :lol: :icon_surprised: :shock: :icon_rolleyes: :evil: :clap: :puke::

[oldie42]

My daughter is 16, friend. 16 and 18 are completely different. I thought you were older than 18, that's why I said post a picture. And yes I am a bastard, but someone has to keep people in line.

[Netgear]

Was a bit of drama there:D ...cue the ending credits :lol:

[zwmusic]

And yes I am a bastard, but someone has to keep people in line.

Yes Sir! http://www.smileyparadies.de/smilies/menschen/204.gif (http://www.smileyparadies.de)


http://www.smileyparadies.de/smilies/sonstige/zebra33.gif (http://www.smileyparadies.de)

[Jelqster]

Yes Sir! http://www.smileyparadies.de/smilies/menschen/204.gif (http://www.smileyparadies.de)


http://www.smileyparadies.de/smilies/sonstige/zebra33.gif (http://www.smileyparadies.de)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Netgear]

Any relation between Oldie's true identity, the nationality of that soldier and the origin of the website :icon_rolleyes:

[zwmusic]

Well, Oldie's true identity is from the Caucasus and he joined the Gurkhas in Nepal to fight in the mountains for the British Army, he ended up in USA because he was captured by the CIA for interrogation due to his Russian background. The soldier is in fact a Cossack because of his grand father who used to work for the personal regiment of the Czar. The origin of this website goes all the way back to the Monks in Tibet, who used to stretch their dings high up in the mountains as a sign of aknowlegment to the Goddess Ananta - Indian Serpent Queen. It's all linked.

[Torpedo]

Hey oldie, can beginners do that routine you suggested? And is that routine supposed to make you lose most of your erections for awhile?

[Netgear]

:lol: haha rather a tedious link Zw but i like it :icon_surprised:

...i just meant that if you click on the soldier it takes you to a german website, German soldier would be saulting some German Fürher...Oldie :wink:

[ownd]

Hey oldie, can beginners do that routine you suggested? And is that routine supposed to make you lose most of your erections for awhile?


i wouldnt suggest it at all for begginers

[oldie42]

Hey oldie, can beginners do that routine you suggested? And is that routine supposed to make you lose most of your erections for awhile?

It depends on what you call a beginner. If you have less than 6 months experience, don't do it. And if you do decide to try it anyways, just BE CAREFUL. Know your body, listen to your body. If you can't get an erection for an extended period of time after doing these exercises, you're doing something wrong. Maybe a temporary erectile dysfunction symptom, but only because you worked it to the point of exhaustion. If you cannot get an erection, you're doing something wrong. I cannot stress this enough.

[Ocho.Cinco]

Great workout Oldie! I've tried it a few times the past few weeks, sticking to your one day on, one day off routine! Intense, but quick! I dig!

I've gained .7" since June with a variety of wel jelqing methods. I think consistency and variation allow for maximum growth.

[zwmusic]

consistency and variation allow for maximum growth.

That should be on the forum first page.

Congrats on the great gains. :cool

[diabolical]

I'm a complete beginner, doing PE for about 10 days total. I am going for length and girth in my erect and flaccid states. I think more to my preference, I would love to gain in flaccid length, and erect girth.

So I am curious, once I become more advanced in PE, around 6 months or so from now, do you recommend losing wet jelqs for length all together and just doing dries with stretches, or would a combination of both be okay? I've read a few posts on the boards that suggest stretching after jelqing reverses its affects, and that leads me to believe doing wet jelqs after dries would reverse the affect of the dries. I've also read several posts that talk about using stretching devices and such for better gains.

Just looking for some validation on this information that I have read, as I know different people have different opinions and viewpoints.

Thanks

[Torpedo]

Bump for an answer to diabolical's question.

[jason12]

I'm a complete beginner, doing PE for about 10 days total. I am going for length and girth in my erect and flaccid states. I think more to my preference, I would love to gain in flaccid length, and erect girth.

So I am curious, once I become more advanced in PE, around 6 months or so from now, do you recommend losing wet jelqs for length all together and just doing dries with stretches, or would a combination of both be okay? I've read a few posts on the boards that suggest stretching after jelqing reverses its affects, and that leads me to believe doing wet jelqs after dries would reverse the affect of the dries. I've also read several posts that talk about using stretching devices and such for better gains.

Just looking for some validation on this information that I have read, as I know different people have different opinions and viewpoints.

Thanks

You could try doing girth and length days. Maybe 3 days a week you do stretches drys and holds and on the other two do stretches and wets. I personally never liked wets and really like to focus on drys. In my experience drys will give you length gains as well and wets never seemed to do a thing for girth gains (real or temporary).

[PepeLePew]

Clockers or Jelqster -- You should move your before and after pictures to
the Members Progress Picture Thread (http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?t=7215). Jelqster has been missing in action
lately though.