The Pill That Can End Aging

[Clockers]

HERE (http://www.cheekycherry.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9946) (click)

[Valk]

Dont make links to posts in the old forums. The old board will be locked pretty soon and thus we cant continue our discussion. Capice?

[Clockers]

Even though they will be locked they can still click the link and read whats already there i don't feel like typing all that shit again.. :?

[Valk]

You can just copy it :wink:

You made it seem this thread was a link to the old one, and that we should continue the conversation in the old one.
That was my impression but I quess I was wrong.

[Clockers]

No!! You wasn't wrong but i just thought it would be better just for them to go take a look doesn't really matter anyways!! :wink:

[Clockers]

Well it's been about 3 months now well almost anyways but it's about the same as what i last posted in thee old forums.. :cool



'God' I hope i can look 20 again!


heheh!

[Clockers]

Yea!! Right that will never happen!

[wern]

I have spoken to a scientist who works in the field of anti-aging and viruses (don't exactly remember what his oficial title is). He says that theoretically there is a way to end aging, effectively allowing us to live forever naturally (unless we are killed somehow - ie murdered, car accident etc). He believes though that this process won't be availale for at least another 100 years. So if we can last that long we may live forever. I don't think this method reverses aging though, it simply stops it. In layman's terms (its too complicated and lengthy for me to put into writing) it has something to do with a feature of every cell in the body. Each cell has a sort of timer in it. The approach is to freeze the timer.

[Clockers]

Yea i've heard of that too!

there was a special on the news hear my mother watched it i didn't she told me that they are working on a pill 'Now' that can end even reverse aging but the pill will cost around $1000 and it didn't say how many pill you need to take nor did it say for how long.. :shock:


Damn!! Who has that kinda money but if they really are and 'It' really works then i will take them pills hoping that it wont cost a whole lot then i would just use a credit card and work lots of 'OverTime' :P

[wern]

I will spend all the money required as long as it was safe. I am sure it could max out some credit cards http://www.geocities.com/the_general.rm/00000004.gif

[Clockers]

yea!! I guess if it really works and it's safe then i'am sure the CO. that puts them out will be fooking 'RICH' but that will be a price for us to pay if we want to be young again or live longer.. :cool

[wern]

The issue is whether the governments will allow commercial distrubtion of such a pill. Think of the consequences of people never dying,....

[hugh g rection]

People would have fewer children, so the birth rates would probably drop along with death rates after the first few years it was commercially available and cheap enough for the general public.

Women's biological clocks would never go off with this, and thusly that drive to have children in their 30's would dissapear.

I could be very wrong, but that is how I see it.

[wern]

People would have fewer children, so the birth rates would probably drop along with death rates after the first few years it was commercially available and cheap enough for the general public.

Women's biological clocks would never go off with this, and thusly that drive to have children in their 30's would dissapear.

I could be very wrong, but that is how I see it.

200 years after adopting this pill, the birth rate is almost zero. Everyone is very old, though they don't look+feel it.
Then scientists discover that there's a terrible side effect after 200 years of suing this medication and that we will resume aging - humanity dies.

Also the world's economy would radically change and would probably crash. (as economics relies on capitalism which relies in part on people dying and their kids splurging their money - therefore wealth depleting)

[MagnumXL]

the cells are suppose to die. thats where cancer comes form, if a cell exceeds its lifetime, cancer forms. u cant live forever without having cancer and dieing. living forever = bullshit.

[wern]

the cells are suppose to die. thats where cancer comes form, if a cell exceeds its lifetime, cancer forms. u cant live forever without having cancer and dieing. living forever = bullshit.

As I understand it cancer is a mutation caused from the reproduction of cells. I don't think it would necessarily occur from these pills

[oldie42]

That board is already locked, Valk. It is read-only, and you CAN link to that board, you just can't post in it. So what's the big deal??

[MagnumXL]

As I understand it cancer is a mutation caused from the reproduction of cells. I don't think it would necessarily occur from these pills


exactly... if one cell does not die, it is a mutant cell. its not just gonna sit there, its gonna spread. thus, -> cancer.

[MagnumXL]

now not to get it wrong, if we make a cure for cancer (hopefully) one of these days, then yes it could be possible.

[wern]

exactly... if one cell does not die, it is a mutant cell. its not just gonna sit there, its gonna spread. thus, -> cancer.

no no that's not how it works.

The mutuations happen when the cells are created. Millions of cells die and millions of other cells are born constantly. Our body is completely replaced every seven years. So when cells are born with a defect a cancer is created. A good cell that doesn't die wouldn't cause cancer if there was nothing wrong with it to begin with.

[hugh g rection]

The way the pills work is by preventing free radicals from doing damage to your cells. The theory is that by doing this, you never go into the decay that comes with old age. It wouldn't cause cancer, you would just remain the same age you are when you start taking them and possibly de-age if you are already getting old and dealing with cellular decay.

Who knows if it possible or not, but we will find out.

[wern]

There's another way we may live forever - I saw a documentary on this - we can become robots.

They are working on creating an articifial brain. Scientists already have created artificial muscles. So people in the future will find themselves slowly phasing their bodies into artificial limbs and components until we will be completely artificial. Wierd eh?

[Clockers]

So your saying that scientists will be able to download are brain to an articifial brain.

[wern]

no. The brain is made up of billions/trillions of neurons. What they do is they slowly repace each neuron in the brain with an artificial one, until your entire brain is artificial. They have already tested it out by replacing one neuron and the brain totally accepted the artificial one. But for it to accept all of the neurons is still speculated.

[Clockers]

Dam! we are getting smarter ain't we. Well some of us anyway, well hope it works not saying i would do it but the thought would always be there!

[wern]

I can't wait to be a robot. We won't even need penises anymore. We will just have a bluetooth connection to each other and fuck digitally :twisted:

[Spike]

But for the brain to accept all of the neurons is still speculated.

Hey Clockers - Give them a call, see if they have 10 neurons ready. :lol:

[wern]

hahahahahahah

[Clockers]

Hey Clockers - Give them a call, see if they have 10 neurons ready. :lol:




Hahaha! Not funny. :x

[wern]

sorry mate I couldn't help laughing :)

[Valk]

I think Spike went too far. :neut:

[Spike]

I call it pushing the envelope. :P

It's only funny if it's not true.

[Clockers]

Then in that case hahahahahah!!! :P

[Clockers]

I wrote this in another thread, but it really belongs here so i copy/pasted it to this thread.. :wink:

Juvenon Cellular Health Supplement, acts on the mitochondria, the organelles within the cell where energy is produced. As we age oxidants cause cellular damage, which accumulates over time. Oxidants damage mitochondria in three important ways. they damage DNA, lipids and protein. Juvenon Cellular Health Supplement, facilitates the entry of fuel 'starches and fatty acids' into the mitochondria and stimulates production of natural antioxidants that protect the cell from age associated increases in tissue damaging oxidants!
Dr. Bruce Ames is well respected at the University of Cal, Berkeley. and may i add that the University is well respected aswell, he also won a 'Noble Prize' form the discovery of the two Amino's ALA-ALC. And i know that i've been taking them for a few months now, and i feel great I really do. And my sleep is deeper/better then ever before, and i've notice fast increase in muscle mass. Never before have i seen the improvment in just 1 month then all thee other times i have worked/weight-lifting so to me i think something is happening with me taking these supplements.

:cool

[wern]

is this the fountain of youth you were talking about?

[Clockers]

Put it this way, i feel it's a start if you know what i mean!! :cool

[Clockers]

Bump! :mrgreen

[wern]

Don't bump me. I'm trying to sleep

[Clockers]

:lol: I love to sleep, it's one of my favorite hobbies. :D

[Clockers]

You know i just thought of that' i haven't had a cold or nothing since i've been taking these supplements.. :P :cool

[soserious]

ss, in 19`000 years as a 12 foot cyborg. capable of shredding 10ft thick concrete or steel walls in 3 minutes. of running 150 miles an hour (in jog) and devestating entire law enforcement divisions in less than a day.

a force not to be fucked with.

they tried to arrest him but he just destroyed everything they could throw at him.
they tried to nuke him but he went far far subterraenea. like 50 miles straight down.. there he built a massive network of tunnels stretching for thousands of miles right across the globe with hidden entrances on every continent. and self sufficient labs to keep hes hardware improving and in good repair and to create more nanobots for selfrepair.

eventually realising the futility of their efforts to stop this enigma and realising that given time he was capable of conquering any country they grudgingly bowed to hes requests, however bizzarre- except when they time after time tried to surprise attack him.
but he was prepared-even for the chance of being destroyed- 32 miles down from the bottom of the central pacific ocean , laying dormant was a complete replica of SScyborg, reiciving automatic sitreps from ss1. ready to wake from the dreamtime and take hes place.
infact there were hundreds of SS` , all dormant. all ready to take the place of the original sscyborg- but the chance may never come for them-

2.3 million years later. ss cyborg1 still roams the world.
the oldest living and longest living lifeform, possibly of anywhere still alive and kicking.
after aquiring several continents and cleaning them up after the nuclear blasts left almost everything dead- having waited for the many halflifes of enriched plutonium to dissipate he encourages the wildlife back to growth and watches it thrive.










the problem with people,









is that they die.





in some cases thats good.




but still.. what if?





















6.7 billion years.
ss cyborg1 communicates remotely with each ss each spread out among the universe and still travelling outwards. thousands and thousands of them.




























14 billion years .
sscyborg1 is engulfed in a supergiant star exploding.








































































39.72 billion years,
sscyborg1 watches a new sun set over a rocky harsh new world.

[Clockers]

What happen's when it hits 40 billion years?

I need to know ss1, i really do now that you have my attention..

[soserious]

so do i...

[Clockers]

:lol:

[wern]

You know i just thought of that' i haven't had a cold or nothing since i've been taking these supplements.. :P :cool

yeh and hows that extra testicle u grew?

[Clockers]

Ha,ha,ha!

[Bobo]

It tickles?

[Clockers]

it really does.

[Bobo]

Maybe it's still growing?

[wern]

bobo has passed 10k count. the force is strong with this one.

[Clockers]

Maybe it's still growing?




:shock:

[Bobo]

bobo has passed 10k count. the force is strong with this one.
:mrgreen Yes it is, young master! :cool

[Clockers]

I love the force, :puke:

[wern]

I love the force, :puke:

hmmm the combination of that sentence and the emoticon after it = :shock:
or is this more suited: :roll:

[Clockers]

I just found this on the net. :cool



(No Spam thank you) :lol:

[wern]

nice. so what pills are you taking? Come on spill the beans!

[Clockers]

Juvenon! :cool

[Clockers]

Well it will be a year since i've started taking juvenon in jan, 06 i feel better i think it may be working but who knows it could just be in my head. :(



Or it may not be working at all, :shock: but it is a small price to pay each month for a test that i'am doing on my'self that could very well be the " or should i say a part of the fountain of youth! :cool

[The Big Banana]

Have you gotten spontaneous comments from other people (not me because I havent seen the befores)?

[Clockers]

No not really but i've always had people tell me that i look younger then my age since i've been teenager, so i figure that this test will take years to see/tell if it's working or not so i will take these pills for about 5 years then deside if i will keep taking them. :?


I think positive though' hoping that some good out'come will come from these pills. (Will See) :cool

[gonnabefamous]

My thoughts:

GH replacement therapy could help get you younger a little bit, there is many cases where people in middle aged took it and got healthier skin, energy, etc. It is not advised for people who do not need it(ie, younger then 40 or so) as a surplus of GH I'm sure could casue tumours as GH is important I believe in tumor growth, plus extra GH enlarges your organs and you don't want that.

Excercise increases your oxygen capacity meaning your quality of life in old age will be better then someone of equivalent age.

Diet's high in food calories in general and excercise all lead to lots of free radicals, taking a few grams of vitamin C a day and a good multivitamin and maybe green tea would be a good standard to combat this and all the free radicals that your body produces. Antioxidants, certain minerals, and fruits help combat and prevent cancer. There is a special program called the gerson's diet that you megadose on fruit and it helps cure cancer, people with months to live have been cured, without chemotherapy or radiation. Chemotherapy is a poison and only ruins your body for a TEMPORARY solution, which is why radiation and chemotherapy success rates are only measured in the 5 year time, because they do NOT WORK.

[Vincent Darwin]

There is a special program called the gerson's diet that you megadose on fruit and it helps cure cancer, people with months to live have been cured, without chemotherapy or radiation. Chemotherapy is a poison and only ruins your body for a TEMPORARY solution, which is why radiation and chemotherapy success rates are only measured in the 5 year time, because they do NOT WORK.

Wow! Are you serious? I didn't know that. That's pretty insane right there.

[soserious]

two words.

Mental health.

Everything else dont mean squat unless you`re happy and well adjusted.
Good post though.

[gonnabefamous]

Wow! Are you serious? I didn't know that. That's pretty insane right there.

It's been a few years since I believed in chemotherapy but I didn't know how this stuff until a couple months ago when I watched a documentary on it on Free Speech T.V here in the U.S. Basically htere were people with few months to live and they did the Gerson's diet and live fine, total remission of tumours and cancer. Everyone that I know of that gets chemotherapy EVENTUALLY dies of cancer, whether it be in a few months or a decade. Chemotherapy wrecks your immune system and radiation does too and all your are doing is lowering yourquality of life while you do it plus hurting yourself in the long run. There is so many supplements and minerals that help prevent or cure cancer, if you megadose on them that would probably be enough, I know frutis have special cancer fighting stuff in them, probably why the Gerson's diet works so well.

[Clockers]

I did look in to Gh, HGH, but not to sure about that shit just yet plus it's alot of money who knows might work might not they do have alot of studies to go through yet there are promises everywhere. But i do believe we are on the urge of staying younger more heathy and living longer so will see in years to come!! :cool

[gonnabefamous]

It definitely believe it works, it's just tha its no betterthen leading a healthy diet and tons of excercise and refraining from drinking and smoking and sun, all are good for keeping young.

[Clockers]

I agree!

I also take a muti V, everyday aswell as fish oil- omega 3 which are very good for'ya. :cool

[Spike]

What about Omega-6?

[soserious]

Tons of exercise is`nt that desirable. Sufficient is though.
One thing, hey, possibly THE most significant thing, the thing that actually AGES a body, are freeradicals.
smoke heavy, drink lots of alcohol, dont drink water, sleep little, be often stressed, eat shitty food choices. what happens? obviously one would age fast, comparitively, dont drink, smoke or eat shit. eat nutritious foods providd by nature, drink like 2-4 litres of water a day, sleep sufficiently- not too little or too much. Be mostly stress free, ect ect. What happens? you live longer, and are in a better state of health.
Now I`m not following my own advice, but I know that freeradicals are basically what age you- inside and out.

Oxygen is a bad free radical, it ages your skin (nuthin you can do bout it tho) overexposure to UV ages you ect. cigarette smoke.. man.. not pretty what it does on a cellular level. (Think grapes into raisins).

So, vitamin C - not OD tho..
Vitamin E
(for starters) are good antioxidants.
Foods which have valuable antioxidant properties are things like raisins, pomegranates and such.

It`s about damage limitation. The slow down of aging- the slow down of the accumulation of damage in each cell of your body.

[Clockers]

What about Omega-6?



:? I have no ideal is there an Omega-6 or you just bull'shiting.


If so tell me about it. :cool

[gonnabefamous]

I agree!

I also take a muti V, everyday aswell as fish oil- omega 3 which are very good for'ya. :cool

I drink green tea as it helps with some cancers and it helps keep insulin low( i have the diabetic gene from my mother I believe) and also gives you energy from the caffeine in it AND it burns calories, but it does give me a bigger appetite I think so the calorie burning might be negated by the appetite increase.

[gonnabefamous]

:? I have no ideal is there an Omega-6 or you just bull'shiting.


If so tell me about it. :cool

Most of the unsaturated fat in peoples diet is omega 6. Omega 3 is the really good one and usually the one you have to supplementwith, unless you eat fish everyday.

[Clockers]

I do like fish very much, but i only eat fish every once in awhile. I know what you thinking' a guy who really like fish only eats it every'once in awhile. :?


I have no ideal why i don't eat fish more often.

[Spike]

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/omega-3-omega-6.html

[gonnabefamous]

I do like fish very much, but i only eat fish every once in awhile. I know what you thinking' a guy who really like fish only eats it every'once in awhile. :?


I have no ideal why i don't eat fish more often.

The more omega-6 you eat the more omega3 you need to blance it out, from what I've learned. You can get too much o-3 in your diet and become deficient in the other, but you'd have to do a lot. Generally more is better with Omega-3. I remember when I used to take tons of flaxseed oil which is rihc in o-3 my skin got shinier and smoother on my arms.

[Spike]

The fish has to be oily fish, cod & Captain Squidgie's Fishcakes are no good.

[Clockers]

Yeah' I've noticed my skin feeling/looking better aswell. I asked my doc' and he recomended i did 3-1000 miligrams aday of Omega-3 pills, when i go back i will ask about Omega -6 aswell but i think i will just stay with what i'am taking now seems to be pleasing to me so i probably wont take the omega06 anyway..will see. :cool

[Clockers]

The fish has to be oily fish, cod & Captain Squidgie's Fishcakes are no good.
I can't stand fish'cake never did my mom does though, not me i like baked fish.

[Spike]

I doubt you need any Omega-6 supplements.

[Clockers]

Me neither, :cool

[Spike]

Now Omega-11 that's a different story altogether.

[Valk]

Yep, recommended by Dr. L1n :cheeky:

[Bobo]

There is no such thing as Omega-11! :x :lol:

[Clockers]

Bastards' they tried to trick me bobo!! :x

[Steve Madden]

I've just started taking an all natural supplement called SeaVegg. Its a blend of twelve species of seaweed, a big ingredient in the cousines of the most healthy cultures in the world. I saw the things first on a public tv forum, I'll update with the results when they come.

[The Big Banana]

Steve, I took a look at the seaweed product youre taking. On the official website it doesnt even mention what vitamins and minerals are in the product and on anthoer website, it doesnt give any quantities for each of the vitamins and minerals it supposedly has in each bottle, using the excuse that the amount varies. Sorry, thats not good enough for the price.

Also kelp appears to be the seaweed they are using. If anyone wants to save some money and buy real seaweed instead, spirulina is better for you.