The Workout Thread

[TheThreatdown]

We are all slackers here whats the point of a big cock if you have shit for a body :wink:
Because I'm engaged and allowed to let myself go.

My girl doesn't really care about my body. Lucky me!

(Though I have been steady losing weight by simply eating better... is there a way to get reasonably healthy without hitting the gym?)

Also every time I lift weights I hurt the elbow joint in my left arm. It's a recurring problem but doesn't happen unless I go to the gym... I used to work out all the time when I was 13-15.

[The Assman]

got to get back in the ring, haven`t done any fighting in a lil while...gonna have to check out muay thai...my fav from years ago.

[Steve Madden]

Once Christmas break begins (likely around Dec. 15th) I'm going to embark on a strength/size gaining expedition known as The Bear. It consists of the deadlift and the sidepress, cycling the money set weights in a 4 foward 3 back fashion, with the first set on the first day of the cycle being about 90% of 5 rep max, the second set 90% of the money set, and then 10-25 additional sets at 80% of the day's money set.

You do this workout probably 3 days per week (more or less depending on recovery ability. For cardio I plan on working in 3-4 min heavy swings as often as possible. I'll be posting stats when I get them.

[Baseballer8]

Man today's workout was great. Judo class helping some beginners and then after class grabbed a jiujitsu guy who was visiting our gym and rolled for 20-30 minutes straight.

[The Assman]

Looks good Steve, im trying too get shredded, im workin out 5 days a week with cardio and plenty of it...im on rapid cuts pills and a clean low carb diet...wish me good luck,cuz im a big fan of sugar!

[Steve Madden]

As am I, sir. I've really leaned down with kb's in the past year or so, high calorie intact notwithstanding. I'm ready for the pump again though, so it's time to move the heavy iron and earn some myofibrillar hypertrophy.

Keep me posted on your gains and I'm always up for some detailed workout discussion/idea swapping if you're interested.

[The Assman]

hells yeah...3 more months to go eating nuthing but tuna, chicken lean beef an rice lol...cant wait! a cheat meal here an there wont hurt either...cuz the holidays are coming!

[Rum_Runner]

Do not to reward yourself with a good beer every once in a while.

[Steve Madden]

Perhaps one of you strapping lads can help me with a problem I've been having.

I've been working on learning the traditional side barbell press, and I've had a bit of trouble learning how to fire the lat. As many of you likely know this is the key to pressing the heavy weights, and I think I've found that pushing the shoulder back so that the lat is sort of "scrunched up" allows me to feel it and subsequently have better control and bring it into the press. That combined with a slight side bend has really improved things.

The one nagging concern is an irritating popping in my left shoulder towards the lockout of the press. It's not a big pop, but it is very uncomfortable (and mildly painful). It's located on the outside of my shoulder, at the very dip of the deltoid (sort of between the triceps and biceps, if that help) on the outside of my arm. It doens't happen at all with my right arm, and I can sometimes avoid it with my left, but there is a strong tendency and I wonder if anyone here knows what it might be.

I'm not too concerned as I don't think it's a serious non-soft tissue structural problem with my shoulder, as if it were I think I'd be in much worse shape. I suspect that it might be a lack of flexibility or something like that but wondered if anyone here has had similar experiences and was able to solve it.

[Baseballer8]

TTT

I am still working out weighing in at 192 lb at 10% BF


My warm up before every workout has been dumbbell snatches and since it is such an explosive exercise it causes little hypertrophy allowing me to do them everyday. Awesome warm up and awesome power and speed developer.

[Valk]

I always thought the explosiveness of exercises contributed to hypertrophy.

[Bootyhound]

Eplosiveness Rocks,

Power Cleans, and Box Jumps ALL DAY

I'm down to 193 from about 222 1 1/2 years ago. I think I'm roughy 8% bodyfat at least thats what my calipers say.

Did my light Upper Body routine this morning with abs, basically 45 minutes of supersetting between abs and Chest, shoulder, tri's... kinda a cardio thing not focused on pushing heavy, I'll do that next week.

We have a boxing ring in our gym, I went up to the head Personal Trainer and said,

Hey I would like to spar once a week do you know anybody?

He said yeah, the instructor he'll give me his #. I was like I don't want lessons I know how to box I want to spar,

He said spare with him, I was like dude I don't want to pay anybody to spar with, does this guy have a monopoly on sparring. He said no, but I have a monopoly on the gym. ANd I don't want to see anyone get hurt its business. I was like hey I pay for my membership and there is a ring in here, it shouldn't be a big deal if I spar.

Basically he just wants me to pay this schmuck to spar

OK fuck you what a joke...

I didn't say it but thought it.

[Codzilla]

I really need to get into the gym again. I'm wasting such a good deal. I got free access to the military gym and i'm not using it mainly because i'm not able to eat well here (laack of money at the moment) and also because i cant get any protein supplements. Is it worth going to the gym if you havent got the best of diets? Because as far as i'm aware you're just lifting and not gaining, since the protein intake is a major role, right?

[Bootyhound]

yeah just temper your workouts down, don't go all out. do like 30 minute workouts, your body will still adapt and you'll get shredded.

you can still workout without food, just not hardcore.

Get some, tuna, nutz, canned beans and banannas. peanut butter, bread, oatmeal etc..



There is cheap stuff that will get you buff, when get into some good food for few days crank up your workouts and your body will reward you...

[Codzilla]

Thanks booty, got loadsa tuna here, and loadsa bananas, but thats really about it. Bread we have lots of aswell. Its just until i get my first pay cheque i won't be able to get much. But thats good to hear i'll start doing some light workouts for the moment.:)

[Baseballer8]

I always thought the explosiveness of exercises contributed to hypertrophy.


Not really its more so the negative which contributes to the hypertrophy of the muscle. The explosiveness will train the neuromuscular pathway to fire faster and stronger. You will get bigger as your muscles get stronger but not at the same rate as if you were training for size alone.

[hugh g rection]

Got back to a comfortable squat weight here recently. 315 x 10, 325 x 8, and 335 x6.

My legs could take more but my core isn't strong enough to go heavier.

[ownd]

i started to work out consistenly again 3 weeks straight already. My strength is coming back my bench is around 275X6 reps. Should pressing 75's about 8 times as well. im in a dilema right now of if i want to get bigger or i want to get leaner / cut.

[Bootyhound]

Looks like some decent weight there Hugh, I'll be here soon. I'm starting slow only going a little heavier every other week. I'm in the 225 3 sets of 10 territory. I go a little past parallel though so its a good weight.

Own'd, 275X6 is that one set or knocking out 3 sets regardless thats some solid weight.

What is your height and weight now? just to help you with your delima.

[The Assman]

Im trying to get cut to the max here...ive been bulkin for 2 years now, im up to bout 200 pounds now at 5'8 with 14% bodyfat...anytips for the diet, like foods or anything like that... Thanx

[Bootyhound]

I'd say I f you just went on an all out mission to be shredded you would drop to like 178.

If you want to take the more strategic route I'd say drop to 182. Do focus on diet, abs, and cardio dude. When I lift in the cut zone I do not focus on strength, now I have gotten stronger but I'm more focused on maintaining muscle mass, and keeping the heart rate up. Lots of short rest and super sets.

You should be doing cardio at least 4 x's a week more is better, and on resistance days 20 to 30 minutes is perfect becuase you only burn fat once your Heart rate is up and after your workout your heart rate is up.

Long fast walking and slow jogging burns more fat but you have to do it for at least 50 minutes.

when you don't have a lot of time 15-20 minutes of intense running or intervals is good to mix in too. You'll burn alot of calories in a short period of time, and you will boost your metabolizm for more fat buring after your workout.

So long and slow for fat burn
Short and intense for calories and metabolism.

ANd you know the deal eat a little less and good food, cut back on booze and only cheat 1 time a week.

Last tip,

take weight and measurements and don't weigh yourself or take bodyfat % for a month. This will keep you focused on seeing major changes in your body not little water weight drops. Oh yeah do abs for 15-20 minutes 3 days a week, or just do abs everyday for like 5-10 minutes.

Good luck it's the best I can do, I've recently cut up. I'm not shredded but I will be my next run at it.

[The Assman]

Thank you very much, very informative...yeh my goal is 180 gonna try for 3 months. I will be takin as well as my vitamins an protein, a fat burner called rapid cuts...great product i hear from many!

[Bootyhound]

I would stay away from the fat burner until you do it on your own, because what will happen is you'll get down to around 8% bodyfat and you will platue, which is actually a good time to maintain and get your body accustomed to its lower BF levels, I would maintain for anywhere between 2 to 6 weeks before I went on another cut mission, where still I wouldn't want to use that BS for much longer than 2 weeks, to really peak for like the beach or the pool or whatever.

I would use the caffiene pills for peakingm the stuff makes you jittery and you can do it on your own without fucking up your digestive system and sleep patterns. If you do take it drink a shit load of water, if your system get dried out you will get constipated and it ain't fun.

[hugh g rection]

HIIT is perfect for getting ripped.

[The Assman]

Wats HIIT??:shock:

[Bootyhound]

Ditto what is it?

Oh yeah I was thinking about your program Assman, you also might want to try and maintain your weight, but really tighten up the diet (in carbs and sat fat) not in calories. And boost the cardio/diet intensity just a little,

if you did that for a month, I bet your bodyfat drops to sub 12%, w/o any muscle loss...

Either way is fine, I'm just thinking why not just make smaller changes monitor the progress, slowly increase the cardio and in a few months when your down to 8% bodyfat and you haven't lost any muscle at all maybe gained muscle, which means maybe you don't need to drop to 180 maybe 190 of rock is the route to go!!


take it to the extreme with the cardio/fat burners/cutting back the calories after a few months,

Either way should work, just the faster you lose wieght and cut up the less muscle you preserve but than again if you have testosterone and lighten up on activity levels and increase your poundages for a month you can gain the muscle back,

I just figured I would give you a different twist on cutting up... the point is tweek the variables just a little (clean diet / moderate increase in cardio) and you will see results as well,

it just depends on if you want to take the quick treacherous route or steady and methodical route, thus preserving as much muscle mass as possible.

Currently I'm in a holding pattern myself, so when I get back into it think I'll go with the slow steady preserve and build muscle, and then about a month before beach season take it to the extreme slice and dice phase...:twisted:

[The Assman]

Thats awesome advice reps for that, thanks a lot...

[hugh g rection]

http://www.musclemedia.com/training/hiit.asp

HIIT

[The Assman]

Great...ill be reading this and giving it a try...have you tried this Hugh? and how did it go?

[hugh g rection]

It's extremely effective, the science behind it is sound. You really have to kick your ass though. When it says go for 30 seconds straight at 90% you really have to burn it up.

[Rum_Runner]

Looks simple enough. :evil:

[The Assman]

Sick stuff...thanx for the tip, ill be putting this into my cardio routine...ill start of on the bike and work my way up to the E-Trainer...im not in the greatest cardio shape...

[giorgio]

I've been thinking about neck thickness. As i've only just started working out, my neck, like everything else is pretty thin and I don't want to have a big body with the same thin neck. Do i need to do neck exercises or will my neck just get thicker anyway as a result of some of the exercises i'm doing?

[Rum_Runner]

Staurday I did my killer Ab routine as well as a killer Squat / Dead lift routine and when I was done with that finished it off with leg presses, calves and hamstrings. When I was done I could walk, but damn was unable to talk. I really kicked my own ass, and loved it.:wink:

[Codzilla]

I've been thinking about neck thickness. As i've only just started working out, my neck, like everything else is pretty thin and I don't want to have a big body with the same thin neck. Do i need to do neck exercises or will my neck just get thicker anyway as a result of some of the exercises i'm doing?

Same with me actuslly, i have a pretty thin neck too, and it could do with plumping up. Will upper back exercises and shrugs help with neck thickness? Or are there specific exercises that need to be done?

[Rum_Runner]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?MainMuscle=Neck


here you go

[Rum_Runner]

I did these when I was younger, note from the wise start lite I mean lite. The neck is not something you want to fuck with.

[Codzilla]

Thanks alot Rumbo!!! I'll incoporate them when i start my new life on the 9th :D

[Rum_Runner]

Lucky bastard, you get a second one:cool

[K-man]

Well I never thought I'd find myself in this thread but I finally got my ass into gear and joined a gym. Just going for 2-3, hour long, sessions of cardio a week to begin with. According to an online calculator, I have a BMI of 25.1 with 21.7% body fat. I'm 5' 11" and weigh in at 180 lbs (82 Kg). I could do with losing around 7 Kg to hit my ideal weight. Once I've got rid of the excess fat I'll start toning. Up until last week, I hadnt set foot in a gym for about 15 years. To be honest I really enjoyed the first couple of sessions (although I did feel like I was going to die after the first one). I can see how people get addicted to this shit.

[Codzilla]

Healthy lifestyles are very addictive, especially that feeling you get after working out or jogging.

[wern]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?MainMuscle=Neck


here you go

Those exercises are ridiculous.

Resisting the hands for a certain amount of seconds? How the hell can that be incorporated into an exercise routine? How much resistance? What angle?
And the part where he is lifting weights with his neck....

There are plently of exercises that work out the neck muscles in a safe way. Most of the exercises on that page look dangerous and impractical to me.

I used to do neck exercises on a special machine that you put your head into and swayed side to side. And after months of using that machine (which had very high resistance on it), the effects weren't that noticeable considering the effort put into the exercise. Luckily I didn't suffer any injuries, but who knows if there is any long term damage??

The neck bones (the top of the spinal cord) are probably the most dangerous set of bones in the entire body to fuck around with. It would be safer to take anabolic steroids than to "work out" these muscles by hanging weights off the neck.

[Rum_Runner]

I used to use the machine in question. You are right, you felt like you were working the shit out of your neck, at least in my opinnion. Those machines I have not seen in a while. The head brace thing has been around for a long time. I am not saying it is a good thing to use but I have in the past. I think these exercises worked, but then again I was young and stupid.:mrgreen

I will state again when fucking around with your neck stay on the side of caution.

[Rum_Runner]

http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/schultz8.htm

http://www.essortment.com/all/neckmuscles_rbgs.htm

[G-Spot19]

Im going to put some neck work into my routines too. Helps the over all look i think.

[Rum_Runner]

If you have a decent size neck already it probably is not worth a lot of your time a couple a sets a week is probably all you need. My neck has thickened up over time from lifting over the years with out neck exercises. But I would have done them if there wasa damn machine in my gym. :shock:

[K-man]

Guys, could anyone offer any advice as to whats good to eat post workout? I'm going to the gym after work so by the time I get home I'm usually pretty hungry, having not eaten since lunch. Any suggestions welcome.

[wern]

First of all, eat something every 3 hours. So eat something between lunch and the gym. Take a fruit to work, or a few slices of wholemeal bread and a cucumber or sweet red pepper and eat that. No preparation is required to take a bite out of a cucumber and then take a bite out of a piece of bread, It's like a sandwich on-the-go.

Post workout meal if you are not at home within 15-20minutes after your workout:

You should have the following post workout meal within 30 minutes of finishing a resistance workout:

a banana
a cup of skim milk
whey protein

This introduces natural carbs into the body as well as an excellent type of protein, whey, plus a complete source of protein (from the skim milk). The carbs help the muscles consume the protein.

The best way to consume this meal is naturally. (ie don't look for a processed meal that contains these ingredients, because it is bullshit.

So I suggest you take a banana, and you can take a small bottle filled with one cup of skim milk and ask to put it in the gym's fridge. If they don't allow it, you should be able to get a small container of long life skim milk. In all the supermarkets I have visited in Sydney you can find these, so I assume that also goes for the UK. You should be able to find a skim milk container that is about 200ml (7 oz) with a straw. Surprisingly these skim milk normally don't contain any artificial preservatives so that is just another bonus.

So take a small container of whey powder (you need 30g / 2 level tablespoons).

Take a sports bottle with water to drink while you work out.

Then when you are finished put the milk into the empty sports bottle, add the whey, shake, and consume while eating the banana.

[K-man]

Thanks wern, appreciate the response. Just one thing, my workouts are purely cardio at the moment, and are likely to be so for a while yet, as I'm looking to shed a bit of fat before I start toning. Would your advice differ on that basis?

You'll have to forgive my ignorance. I know nothing at all about nutrition, to be honest its not something I've had to pay much attention to. Up until about 4 years ago, I have always had pretty active jobs, coupled with the fact that I was out clubbing almost every weekend, so I was always hovering around the 70 - 75 Kg mark and hardly had any body fat. Seems the days when I can eat what I like and not worry about it have now gone!! :(

[Rum_Runner]

http://www.charlespoliquin.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=861&Itemid=10029


Here is your Answer K-man - http://running.about.com/od/nutritionandhydration/f/postruneating.htm

[K-man]

Nice one Rummy. :wink: I'll have a closer look at the first article when I get a bit more time.

[wern]

K-Man, from what I have researched so far,
if you want to lose weight, only train with cardio

HOWEVER, if you want to lose fat, then you need to train cardio as well as weights.

All Cardio does is burn calories. When your body is in a calorie deficit and can feed off muscles as well as fat to tap into stored energy and proteins. Weight training reduces loss of muscle mass when you are losing weight.

Many bodybuilders perform their first cardio session in the morning before even eating breakfast. Because the stores of glycogen in the body are low after a night's sleep, the body must tap directly into fat to get it's energy. If you eat something before your cardio, what you eat will be burned for energy first, so you are effectively reducing the effect of your workout.

This only applies to cardio, not weight training. If you don't eat something before you train with weights, you can cause yourself injury and overtraining.

The best thing to consume before a cardio session in the morning is 2 cups of water. And then continue to consume water during the session.

[K-man]

Thanks again wern, good information. I am unable to workout in the mornings as the gym isnt open before I have to start work. So is it just a case of getting through the day with minimal calorie intake and then having a decent feed after my session?

At the moment I very rarely eat before around 10 in the morning (which I know isnt great). If I can get into the habit of having a piece of fruit when I land at work (7.30am), then another at around 10.30, then a salad lunch around 1 and a snack at 4ish before going to the gym at 6 then, based on what you've said so far, I should be able to get maximum benefit from the session, no?

I'm commited to going to the gym for the next 3 years due to the type of membership I've bought, so I figure I may as well get the best out of it!!

[Rum_Runner]

You are right. Get the best of it. If you are doing cardio your planned eating plan looks good as long as your salad and snack have some protein in it. Like peanut butter for your snack or chicken with your salad. Protein good. No protein bad.

[K-man]

So much to learn!!!! :) It's all good though.

[wern]

Thanks again wern, good information. I am unable to workout in the mornings as the gym isnt open before I have to start work. So is it just a case of getting through the day with minimal calorie intake and then having a decent feed after my session?

At the moment I very rarely eat before around 10 in the morning (which I know isnt great). If I can get into the habit of having a piece of fruit when I land at work (7.30am), then another at around 10.30, then a salad lunch around 1 and a snack at 4ish before going to the gym at 6 then, based on what you've said so far, I should be able to get maximum benefit from the session, no?

I'm commited to going to the gym for the next 3 years due to the type of membership I've bought, so I figure I may as well get the best out of it!!
Firstly, you don't need any gym equipment to perform cardio in your own home. You can purchase a Tae Bo workout CD and do that as soon as you wake up. Tae Bo is hands down the best cardio workout I have ever done, and that includes cosstraining machines, bikes, treadmills, stairclimbers, boxercise, and other aerobics classes (australian classes would have different names I'm guessing).
And a Tae Bo DVD costs $30 in australia, so that's 15 GBP.

Or you can do your own custom workout including running on the spot and punching rapidly etc in front of your tv so the minutes will fly. You really do not need a gym for cardio.

You should eat as soon as you wake up in the morning, unless you are about to do a cardio exercise. In which case you eat immediately after it.
Don't waste your time and money on cereals. They are loaded with refined sugars that will set you up for failure throughout your day before you even begin it. Eat porridge or eggs.

Here's a nice tasy porridge recipe:
1/3 cup natural oats
1 cup skim milk (not 1% fat, but SKIM or 0% fat milk)
100grams of frozen blueberries (you can get these anywhere)
Total calories: 250 - 300

Chuck all the ingredients into a teflon saucepan or small frying pan, set heat to high and stir every 30 seconds with a wooden spoon. After it has reached boiling point for 1-5 minutes it is ready. Just taste it throughout to make sure you like the consistency.
When done, the teflon/non-stick cookware will be easy to clean using a sponge under hot water.

It will taste sweet, without containing any refined carbs or sugar. It will also minimise any cravings you are going to have during the day.

[K-man]

Maybe I should rephrase!! I'm not a 'morning' kind of person. I find it hard enough to drag my arse out of bed at 06.30 in order to make to work on time. Adding an exercise routine (meaning I'd have to rise even earlier) just isnt going to happen. Not that I dont appreciate the advice, but the reason I've opted to do my workouts in the evening is because, realistically, its the only way I can be certain I'll be able to stay commited.

Likewise, by putting my self in the gym environment, I give myself no excuse not to exercise (plus its costing me, so you better believe I'm going to use it). I'm simply dont have the discipline to go for a 'home regime' at this time. There would always be something else to get in the way. I know my limitations in terms of my character and, for the time being at least, I feel that this is the best way to make exercise a part of my life again.

The fact that I work ridiculous hours certainly doesnt help the cause. Maybe if the circumstances change in the future I'll be able to address the issue differently but for now its a case of anything is better than nothing.

[wern]

No worries. In that case, I would eat some fibrous veggies 3 hours before a cardio workout, as well as drinking 2 cups of water.
It generally takes 30 minutes for the energy from a meal to peak, so you want to be working out while you are peaking, as you will get the maximum performance benefit.

A sandiwch from wholemeal bread with fresh tomatoes, lettuce and cucumber as well as a piece of grilled/roasted chicken breast in it is probably the best thing. You should be able to buy one at any BBQ chicken shop/Charcoal Chicken shop (I don't know if you guys have a different name for them in the UK). It is a well balanced meal containing protein and complex carbs (veggies + bread) to give you energy while you workout. At the same time, because you are eating a solid meal (instead of drinking a liquid meal) you will be expending energy just to digest the meal.

Just before your workout you should consume a cup of coffee without milk. I have read that coffee increases performance and fat burning effect of cardio. I have also read that milk takes away the likelyhood of assimilation of antioxidants in tea and coffee. The studies have been controversial, so if you want to add milk, add only a little bit. DO NOT ADD SUGAR OR SWEETENERS. If you must add something, add natural honey, but I advise against that as well. The best thing to do, if you hate coffee is to treat it like a shot of spirits. Get 2 teaspoons of coffee grain in a cup, add 50ml (2 Oz) of boiling water, mix to disolve the coffee grains, then add 100ml of cold water and you will be able to down the whole thing in a shot or two). Chase it with a cup of regular water.

After the workout eat another chiucken sandwich. The complex carbs will keep you from having cravings and the protein in the chicken will work against potential muscle-loss.

If the ingreients seem to be too dry, add a very thin layer of full cream, natural butter to the bread, or add plain yogurt, olive oil, natural mustard (dijon mustard is very mild and tasty), a slice of cheese, or some low fat natural ricotta cheese spread.

[K-man]

Thanks for all the info mate.

[wern]

No probs

[Valk]

Damn wernie, when are you gonna cook a grand buffet for all your CheekyCherry friends. Seems like it would be delicious.

[Shane_Bos]

And healthy! :mrgreen

[wern]

Damn wernie, when are you gonna cook a grand buffet for all your CheekyCherry friends. Seems like it would be delicious.
Well I am pretty good at cooking. Especially kangaroos. :shock:
I make a killer sweetpotato pie (tastes like a cake from a french pattisserie)

And looks like this:
http://byfiles.storage.msn.com/y1pZm8dHzdPFTLEgqTXbSFNkqqDRBK-TI7RNag7U5S96etWfsxVD8t0ttkfSwahbGc3jGQZhdciko0

[Valk]

What percentage of Australians eat Kangaroo meat?

[Shane_Bos]

They sell kangaroo burgers in the Aussie themed pub chain Walkabout in the Uk. Never had one though... Might have to try one.

[K-man]

I've had kangaroo jerky. Wasnt bad! :mrgreen

[wern]

What percentage of Australians eat Kangaroo meat?
I would say that 50% of Australians that grew up as australians (ie people who were born in australia) have tried kangaroo meat.

But when it comes to consuming it on a regular basis (ie at least one serving per month), probably less than 10%. People stick mainly to mainstream meats like chicken, turkey, lamb, beef and pork.


They sell kangaroo burgers in the Aussie themed pub chain Walkabout in the Uk. Never had one though... Might have to try one.
I would try the emu. Kangaroo meat tastes like game meat. It is drier, and therefore less succulent, than other red meats.
Emu or crocodile meat taste really weird. So if you want to taste something odd, I would opt for one of those.


I've had kangaroo jerky. Wasnt bad! :mrgreen I;ve never heard of kangaroo jerky, but I assume it is highly salted if you think it's not bad, unless you are a true blue meat lover.
Kangaroo tastes just like beef, but a bit drier.
But, like all game meats, it is GREAT for dieting, and is much healthier than other red meats. The reason is
1. It has a much lower fat and calorie content than other red meat while having a high protein content. On my lean protein chart it scores 96% (the same as venison).
2. Most game animals are hunted, not farmed. That is definately the case with kangaroos. The reason the government legalised kangaroo hunting is because kangaroos are a pest. They overbreed. So it is very easy to collect large number of them, because they are everywhere. So you are eating grass fed organic meat. But it is cheaper than beef.

If you have any cooking skill you can make kangaroo dishes that taste succulent so for a guy like me who is trying to lose weight, or even for a guy trying to get muscle-mass without gaining fat as well, eating kangaroo is a no brainer.

[Codzilla]

Just wondering now, whats you guys impression on Boot Camp style training? When i say this I mean like, training all day long in intervals, every day except for weekends. I know you have to give your body time to rest, but when i was in Boot Camp for 3 months, I had fitness levels and muscle tone beyond my belief, and I was thinking into incorporating this kind of training into every day life. For example...

Have a main workout session at some point during the day every day, maybe with resistance bands as I like to do nowadays, and then every hour or so do more light workouts, like 3 sets of 25-30 pushups, situps and squats and maybe some more light training with the resistance bands. Go for a short run first thing in the morning and then go for a long high intensity run in the late afternoon and do like skipping a few times inbetween?

I think the only difference is in Boot Camp you got instructors forcing you to go faaaaar beyond your limits. I wonder if it would work. What do you guys think?

[zwmusic]

Haven't been in this section for a while. I'll start a program at home once I move to UK. Already got two 5kg dumbbells to start off with. :mrgreen

[wern]

Just wondering now, whats you guys impression on Boot Camp style training? When i say this I mean like, training all day long in intervals, every day except for weekends. I know you have to give your body time to rest, but when i was in Boot Camp for 3 months, I had fitness levels and muscle tone beyond my belief, and I was thinking into incorporating this kind of training into every day life. For example...

Have a main workout session at some point during the day every day, maybe with resistance bands as I like to do nowadays, and then every hour or so do more light workouts, like 3 sets of 25-30 pushups, situps and squats and maybe some more light training with the resistance bands. Go for a short run first thing in the morning and then go for a long high intensity run in the late afternoon and do like skipping a few times inbetween?

I think the only difference is in Boot Camp you got instructors forcing you to go faaaaar beyond your limits. I wonder if it would work. What do you guys think?

Everything that I have ever read about resistance training involves statements about the body's need to rest in order for muscle fibers to be rebuilt.

However, from my own experiences I have been able to train very hard doing Tae Bo bootcamp for 1 hour every day of the week. And my physique was very impressive as well as my stamina. I could sprint for 1/4 mile without a significant rise in heart rate.

The way I reconcile these two contrasts is this:
If your body doesn't rest properly your muscles suffer. They will either become smaller, or not grow as much as they could. But aside from that, your fat levels will drop. But most importantly your body learns how to conserve energy during exercise. This is the enemy of people that are trying to lose fat. It means that your exercises are having less impact on your fat levels.

What I'm trying to say is that, while I lost fat, I might have have lost much more if I had rested properly between exercises

Also, bootcamp requires a LOT of time which is unrealistic as a lifestyle and therefore is a bad idea. I think the best way to diet is to do things that you can do for the rest of your life. That way you step out of the mindset of dieting as a process with a start and a finish, and step into the mindset of your diet as a way of life.


Haven't been in this section for a while. I'll start a program at home once I move to UK. Already got two 5kg dumbbells to start off with. :mrgreen

Why wait to get home. You can start immediately without any weights. Check out www.iwantsixpackabs.com/abs.html
I am doing the 16 week workout from that site. (and it's free)

[zwmusic]

Okay wern, you won. :D

Thanks for the link.

[wern]

Good man. I hope you try it. It is a great workout. We always have excuses to not train, eat well and reach our other goals. But all these excuses do is lead to failure.

[Valk]

Thats why a man shouldnt have goals. No failure.

[Valk]

*rubs his round burrito belly with a serene smile*

[wern]

Valk, you don't have a round belly. You are a skinny bastard

[Valk]

I'm a skinny bastard with a round belly. A very aesthetically pleasing combination I must say.

[wern]

Is it a large round belly, or just a pot belly.

[zwmusic]

It's a skinny beer barrel belly. :lol:

[Shane_Bos]

I had one of them. My belly got to its biggest around xmas last year and noticably large, so noticable my housemates used to call me fat as a joke. To be honest, i didnt really think it was too bad until they started teasing. Im glad they did though cos it really encouraged me to lose the belly and gain some muscle. Im more moivated now then ive ever been :mrgreen

[Shane_Bos]

Thats why a man shouldnt have goals. No failure.

What Dylan Moran thinks of your potential :lol: ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU8C88UczmU

[Codzilla]

Can anyone tell me what kind of exercises i can do to build up my lower back with a resistance band and a gym ball? I've been using resistance bands for a few weeks now and am noticing some nice gains and general overall increase in strength. But my lower back sucks. You know the muscles that run down either side of the spine? I want them to grow, but i definately dont want the christmas tree effect lol. Does anyone have any advice or tips?

[Shane_Bos]

Lay with your cock on the gym ball and do like a reverse sit-up.

http://www.relaxtheback.com/images/full/tinaclip_lrg.jpg

(I realise this bitch aint got a cock)

Aparently these are good too... (http://www.iwantsixpackabs.com/my_video_tips/top_8_low_back_exercises.html)

[Codzilla]

I cant do cock pushup im afriad, it only hurts hehe, and hey this bitch DOES have a cock, but how did you know im a bitch??? Damn they didnt do the fucking surgery properly then!!! :neut:

Oh i didnt realise there was a picture there of a bitch haha...

[Codzilla]

Thanks for the link hehehe

[G-Spot19]

Lay with your cock on the gym ball and do like a reverse sit-up.

http://www.relaxtheback.com/images/full/tinaclip_lrg.jpg

(I realise this bitch aint got a cock)

Aparently these are good too... (http://www.iwantsixpackabs.com/my_video_tips/top_8_low_back_exercises.html)

If she is flexible as she looks i can give her one though :lol:

[Codzilla]

Can you imagine the sweet positions you could do on a gym ball!!! My god!!!

[wern]

Do reverse leg raises and holds

stand with your back straight
then keeping your back straight, bend over at a 45 degree angle
then raise your left leg backwards and towards the ceiling taking it as far as you can go and holding it in that position if you can. Holding it for 20-60 seconds at the top of the raise is optimal.
Then repeat with right leg

The set should be left leg, right leg, left leg, etc for 10 raises on each leg
It is better to do a set with alternating leg raises than by doing all your left leg reps first, because when you switch legs you work out stabilising muscles (in order to keep balance) and therefore the workout is more productive

If it gets too hard, bend at a 90 degree angle

[G-Spot19]

I havent really noticed much growth, but ive gotten more tone and feel better all around. Looks like its almost time for some good ole resistance training :x

[Codzilla]

I'm getting a bit of growth with the resistance training, not a greatly noticeable amount, but growth none the less. Plus im definately feeling slightly stronger too. Only thing is im not really bothered about losing body fat right now. I have a smallish build anyway so im going to just focus on muscle growth for a few months and then slowly start to focus on fat burning after that. If i start to do a fat loss process i'll just look like a weed.

I tried the exercise on the gym ball as shown above and it really felt good. Plus the chic up there modelling the move is friggin HOTTTTT.