Starting at FIVE inches

[Michael]

Feb 2007 - Starting stats:
NBP: 12.5cm
BP: 14-14.5cm
G: 11.5cm
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LAST MEASURE: 5 April 2008
EL: 145
BPEL: 163
EG: 120
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[Bootyhound]

Good luck oo2A,

If you aim for heavy intensity don't be hesitant to lighten up for a few sessions, and go newbie routine. Because all of that stretching and High intensity can take its toll, I feel one intense session, max two a week can break things down enough to leave room to build back up.

Plus you don't wan't your dick to get used to the high intensity too much or in the long run you are gonna have to workout for like 2 hours,

I don't know just don't be afraid to allow it to grow, and keep the fella suprised (with an occassional rest) he'll probably appreciate it.

I had an intense session yesterday and I still feel like I'm broken down, so I'll go light tommorrow, do some light dry Jelqs SAt morning, rest Sun,

crank it up Monday, go Balls to the Wall Weds. You know youself how you feel so trust it, time off or light workouts allow time for recovery=growth.:D Good luck good to have you with us.

[Michael]

March2007 - at least my recollection of...
Started wet 150-200 wet jelqs 5 days 1st week.
by end of week 2 starting some stretching, but getting red spots and blood blisters because of grip problems. Advise from this site to use a towel and don't grab too hard.
3rd week 10-20 mins stretching in 4 directions and inverted V and wet jelqs. Red spots not as bad and dissapear quickly.
4th week advised to introduce warm-ups and go to M-W-F due to intensity of routine. 5 mins warm/hot bottle, stretches unchanged, 300 wet jelqs. 2 mins warm/hot bottle. Noticing the donut effect at the end of routine & for a few hours after.


April 2007

M, W so far this week
Warmups with hot/warm bottle before and during stetches. Doing about 5-10 mins of stretching the night before and 5-10 mins at 5am the next morning just prior to the rest of the routine. Re-warm prior to wet jelqs and after first 200. 300-400 wet jelqs. Donut effect noted at the end of the session. Warming with bottle after.


Today - Cock feels a bit sore around the base particularly when pulled - probably from the stretches.

Current measurements roughly 13-13.5cm long Girth - slightly wider 11.7ish - but wider for longer i think? not just in one spot. I should have taken a photo. happy with progress:o , hope I'm not overdoing it.

April 13 - Eased back on PE this week as advised.
M - Sex W - 10min str 150 WG F - 10 min str 300 WG
Also started doing daily kegels routine
Apr 22: M/W/F stretch routine x 3, M/W- 200WG F-300WG
Apr 28: M / Thu: stretch routine extended slightly to 30-40seconds per stretch, 200WG
last week of april: 40 second stretches, 250WG M&W

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Good luck oo2A,

If you aim for heavy intensity don't be hesitant to lighten up for a few sessions, and go newbie routine. Because all of that stretching and High intensity can take its toll, I feel one intense session, max two a week can break things down enough to leave room to build back up.

Plus you don't wan't your dick to get used to the high intensity too much or in the long run you are gonna have to workout for like 2 hours, ...


Thanks alot. I'll restrict the intense stuff to once a week.

[Bootyhound]

Hope it works for both of us pal.:P

[Michael]

I have gained 7x3mm in two months and my erection seems fuller overall, although still thin at the base. Kegels have helped my endurance. My partner (doesn't know about my PE) mentioned deeper orgasms in the last few weeks. Not sure if this is a size affect or just a chnage in our relationship making for some brilliant sex! ..maybe both..

Anyway, still a newbie, so May will be spent with a similar routine, with added dry jelqs once weekly.

[Rum_Runner]

Way to go with the gains my man, I would do as you said and not change much since you are gaining. Remember the idea is to gain with as little effort as possible. Do not ruin the flow of your soon to be beast in your pants. Love the fact you are gaining. Keep up the work.:cool

[Michael]

I suspect i have plateaued at 13cm length.

I put on about half a centimeter by about April, but have been static since. Perhaps I just pulled out half a centimeter of hidden stuff.
(Girth is going ok..)

The top ligament fully stretched allows my cock to measure 13cm - same as fully erect (ie half-way to blow). So it seems the ligament isn't stretching with PE.

Part of the problem may be I'm pulling too hard during stretches? I tend to bruise the tip every time, particularly with the UP-stretch.

I tend to be a shrinker not a show-er so maybe that's a nutural disadvantage. I might have to do lighter stretches more often.

http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?t=4919
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Lightened up on the 5-way stretch yesterday (25/5/07) morning and dropped the inverted-V althogether. Felt better.

Developed a rash around the base of my cock - mainly the in the rough (where the hair starts). Fuck it's itchy! I suspect it is from using sorbolene as a lube, which I don't usually. Vitamin E oil hopefully fixes it by Monday 28th.

W/E:2/6/07 - Rash gone by Tuesday, had to go easy monday.
M/W/F - 40 sec x 3 stretch, 200,250,300WG, 50,50,10 Dry.

Suspect some extra girth gained, length doubtful, but I've put on weight (NBP) too.
Skin is showing signs of stretching.
I'll measure up next week.

[GoBigOrGoHome]

You've probably just hit a plateau. Just stick with the routine, and you should get out of it. If not, try changing up your routine. Meh, but dont take my word on it, im still fairly new :lol:.
Good luck bro.

[billy1964]

just keep doing what your doing. gains are going to come:cool

[Michael]

First week of June and 4 days off PE for some R+R(lots of fucking). Time to measure up today:
BPEL: 148mm
EL: 135mm
EG: 119mm
The plateu seems to have sorted itself, like you guys said it would. :)

There have been some minor erections problems creeping in lately.
Earlier this week it had trouble getting it up at all, but as the week went on things got better to the point where I could go more repetitivley again.
I suspect it's the stretches and growth. Lots of fucking and a break in PE seemed the remedy.

[billy1964]

keep that positive attitude. thats going to be the difference in the long run. are you doing any kegels? pump that pc muscle. good luck.:wink:

[gotta get bigga]

hey 0004aaah!,
i just read about your plans for some intense exercises, thats all great but dont be afraid to tone it down to a light routine if the heavy stuff doesnt work for you. i mean the heavy stuff just seemed to hurt me so i swapped and ive seen more gains from a lighter routine.
if after awhile u dont think the intense sessions are for see how a light routine seems.
good luck and best wishes.

[Michael]

Billy, I do a M-F kegel routine usually during the day. Normally 100 quick flexes and 2 x 60 second flexes. Thanks for the encouragement, there's no way I would have perservered with this for 3 months without feedback from this site.

Gottaget, You have a good point. Overtraining will fuck things and a small hard cock is more useful than a big flaccid one LOL.

Ive had to lighten the stretches cos I found I was pulling too hard and just causing damage. Wet jelqs now range from 200-300 per session. If I want more jelqs I'll add about 50 drys same day before bed just to pump it up overnight. M-W-F minimum 2 days between PEs.

[Wannathrillher]

Ooo, I haven't hit your diary up yet so...what's up??

Congratulations on your gains by the way. 10 mm NBPEL is pretty sweet indeed. Warmup and warmdown a ton and you'll be gaining pretty steady no doubt!

[Michael]

Hi wanna! Good to see you still with us.
Noticed your diary says youve grown a bit too. well done.
http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?t=4696

[billy1964]

we all need this site for encouragement . if we tried to pe without it how long would we be pe-ing before we quit? seeing people gain is my motovation and pushing those who aren,t gaining is helping them to remain positive and hang in there for the long haul.:cheeky:

[billy1964]

keep on doing it.:wink:

[Michael]

Maesure time next week
Wondering if my shaft skin is stretching with the rest cos there are small hairs at the base of my shaft for about 1/2".

Quick forum search - seems that skins should stretch easier then the shaft.

I'll revert back to one-handed wet jelqs this week anyway and see how that goes.


PS - probably should update my profile. Do I put in latest? BP, or NBP?

[billy1964]

yes , put in your latest. I,m sure there will be a gain.:cool

[Michael]

yes , put in your latest. I,m sure there will be a gain.:cool

A quick measure yesterday afternoon;
BPEL: 150+ I NEED A BIGGER RULER NOW:cool !
Probably 155 ish or 6", but my ruler only goes to 150.

NBP - roughly the same, but I've put on weight.
Girth - same.

I've gone back to 1-handed last week. It seems to be more intense than 2-handed for some reason, so I had enough after about 200-220 reps.
Re-introduced V stretches. Finding cotton t-shirt better than a towel for gripping cos it does less damage to the shaft skin.

I'll stick with this through July.

[billy1964]

you might want to put a little baby powder on your dick head. will give tighter grip no slippage. get a 12 inch ruler, you will need it in the future.:)

[Michael]

Re-checked my stats today:
BPEL = 155 I didn't take a measure of BP when I started, but I know it was about 140 a couple of months ago.
EL 135+ish
EG same

A workout tomorrow then a 5-day break.

[billy1964]

stay positive. I think we will all gain if we have a positive attitude.:wink:

[Yee-Gads!]

argh 6'' by 4.7'' ive been here for a long time now hoping to change with this pe malarky. good luck man what are you aiming for?

[Michael]

Prefer to avoid thinking about any particular number, Yee-gads. As long as it's growing keep going!:cheeky:

As a first milestone; to no longer be classified as 'small' would be sweet, but I'm not sure where exactly that mark is?:?

[SusurrusK]

You're not in the small category Michael. You're more or less a perfect average.

[Michael]

I would have though 6-6.5" NBP was average length and 4.8-5.2" average girth.

Anyway.. just a matter of time.:wink:

[Wannathrillher]

Great gains man!!

Seriously, those are solid. Don't let the plateau freak you out though. Just keep working through it. Try some holds and try upping your wets. Just keep working at it buddy, you'll get through it!!

[SusurrusK]

Well, it depends where you look for statistics. I've seen places that quote 5.8"Lx4.8"G being the average penis size.

Anyway, getting caught up in these deffinitions is useless... what matters is that you like the size of your penis and that you comfortable with it.

Keep up the good work nevertheless Michael, you're doing great :D

[billy1964]

hey mike, keep on doing your workouts. you will be huge.:wink:

[Michael]

Taking a few days off because I broke skin just below the head probably while stretching last Wed.
My partner has discovered this forum screen frozen on logout mode on my PC, so I've been finally caught! She's actually pretty excited once she knew about the gains thus far and had noticed the improved hang. She suggested my target should be 'huge'.

Susurrusk - you have convinced me:) , I'm officially MEDIUM now. Smallish side of medium, but not alltogether small.

[SusurrusK]

Hey man, if you're on the smaller side of medium, as am I. We're on the same boat my friend, and we'll both get onto the bigger one in due time.

And hey, I salute your girl for being honest and giving you motivation! Once my girlfriend found CC in my history and she asked what it was... I said "ehhh, ah dunno, stop checking up on me!" before quickly changing the subject. So I dunno, she might know about my PE, she might not, but it's not been mentioned since :P

Nice call on the break. Let it heal :cool

[billy1964]

maybe her excitement will keep you more than motivated. If you could get her to help you pe, that would be great. (help as in , cheerleading,encouragement.):wink:

[SusurrusK]

Or get her to cook you a big protein saturated steak :wink::lol:

[billy1964]

everthing going good? just checking in.

[Michael]

Doing fine Billy, thanks for asking. I try to post more often, but getting time on my home PC between weekends can be challenging.

Been able to move my PE routine from 5am to evenings which is way better because I am not a morning person. Also changed lube to vaseline which works well too.

Last week's skin injury has affected my workouts this week. Just a minor surface tear on the underside shaft beneath the head ridge the resembled a very small burst blister.

PE: Monday(Sun night) was light on beacause of last weeks skin trauma 2sets statics, 150WG, 20 dry
Tuesday: skin healed over but tender.
Wednesday(Tues nite): 2sets static, 2V's,2A's 300WG. Felt good and stretched well.
Broke the skin very slightly in the sameplace again, dammit:cry: !! It seems to be the up-stretches and A's which do this.

Thu, Fri: sex aggrivated it more - errm.. and my hand contributed yesterday avro and Wed nite.

Sat(Now) skin looks ok and all but healed over despite last night's sex.

I'l try Fridays routine tonight with less advance stretches and see how it goes.

[Michael]

Lighter workout yesterday;
40 secs rotor, 1 min Oldie's Waterwell Stretch (http://www.box.net/public/d5xn5e2yzy), 20 secs inverted V.
180 WG
+
30 Dry G
5 10-sec holds
1 minute slinkies (intense girth excersise)

The war-wound seems to be healing well. Skin a bit flaky around the stress areas, but otherwise looking ok again.:neut:

I'll just have to go easy on the advance stretches I think.

Also noticed that the girth excersises left it fuller than other post-PE sessions in recent weeks.

[Michael]

Lighter stretching again this week, but some more drys.
Mon: Rest
Wed: 280WG + 40Dry
Fri: 2x3x30secs Waterwell 3x30secs rotor, 250WG + 40Dry
Check for damage after every stretch.
Slightly aggrivated the tender spot from previous week-and-a-bit and it's still visible /red after PE. NOt broken, but tender in one spot.

I'm not sure which way to go here. :? I'm considering a month off.
PE gains have been great so far but I overdid it one night from too tight a grip/pull (?) and am struggling to recover from it.

[billy1964]

give yourself time to heal properly or gains will stop. I don,t know about a monthoff but a week wouldn,t hurt. good luck

[Michael]

My partner suggested altering my routine to avoid the injurous stretches. She also bought me zinc and castor oil to apply on aggrivated parts.

Today:
3x30secs waterwell+ 3x30secs rotor stretches. 400WG
Nothing aggrivated.

Looking back over my diary I think my stretches were way too hard, therefore my grip too tight to hang on. Today's streches were deliberately light but I stretched well and hung ok after.
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Wed : waterwells, rotors + 350WG
Fri: waterwells, rotors, 30s A, 30secVs. The V stretches put some strain on the tender spot, but it is ok. No damage. 300WG + 20 Dry

[Michael]

18/8: Measuring day:
BPEL 157mm
NBPEL 138mm
G - same

Still gaining:D

She told me last night that I felt "different -longer and thicker" which was great to hear. Admittedly that was a 4-5 hours after PE so I was probably still a bit pumped up.
Still motivated..

[Rum_Runner]

As one should be. Keep the work outs coming and hopefully the gains wil countinue as well.

[Michael]

Another week another 3 workouts:
Sun: 3x30sec w/well, 3x30sec rotor, 300WG
Tues 30x30 sec w/well, 2x5x30sec static, 380WG
Thu 3x5x30sec static, 1 set w/well, 350WG

Thurday didn't stretch well, possibly because i didn't warm up enough and probably needed another recovery day from Tuesday's routine.

[jason12]

Congratulations on the gains man!

[Michael]

Mon WO 27/8 - lighter workout:
20 mins warmup
2x5x30sec static.+ more warming, then 3x30 secs waterwell was stretched enough.
250 WG
Warm down in shower.
Wed - same as Mon
Friday - 3 sets staics + 290 WG. Slight donut effect noted.

Overall -stretching well and being heaps more careful to look out for signs to "too hard" such as slightest pain anywhere.
WG are still 1-handed, which seem to be more intense than 2-hands, although I have had trouble suppresing the level of erection at times which is probably the main factor. 300 seems to be the upper limit. (I think? - I really gotta stop losing count halfway)

[billy1964]

checking in michael. you working the meat bro? whats up?

[Michael]

Still workin the meat billy. steady at 3 sets static + 300WG 3x per week since last post.

Quick measure last week - No measurable gain since last month :( but that will happen somtimes. Missing a few workout days probably didn't help either.


Links list for the month:
http://www.cheekycherry.com//ccforums/showthread.php?t=502
http://www.cheekycherry.com//ccforums/showthread.php?t=5310
http://www.cheekycherry.com//ccforums/showthread.php?t=5253

[Rum_Runner]

Keep positive my friend and good luck with the laundry

[Michael]

Still 3 x statics this week. WG increased slightly to 300 / 400 (300, 350 or sometimes 400). Using the clock to limit the time for each workout to 70mins including warmp.

I haven't measure for a while but I suspect a plateu. I want length gains for now without losing girth. My cock can handle 400 now no worries, that being my set max workout level.


My cock looks good flacid still. Erect still feels skinny in my hand. But hard.

I have sorted out most of the stretching and seems to achieve a really long looking dick after each set before it retracts back somewhat.

I am pretty sure that I have been too tight in my grip with wet Jelqs in the last month so i have concentrated on my OK grip a little. Still doing one-handed but easy on the tight grip which is feeling better afterward.


Probably measure up next week - braced for a little dissapointment. I might need a pleateu breaker plan: month off and different routine as per this thread;

http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?t=2147&highlight=plataeu

[Michael]

Similar routine this week. start with 300WG monday, 400WG Friday.

Measure next week.

[Michael]

Measured yesterday, maybe another 1mm BPEL & NBPEL.

Time for a plataeu breaker.I don't want to take any more time than I have to off, but my cock is resisting growth.:cry:

Jelqs: 3-400 before my cock feels 'done', but I get the feeling the excesises are just adding hardness rather than expanding like they used to?

Stretching - I have long suspected that I need to do less more often. My best length gains so far came from a week off jelqing, some maintenance rotor stretches and lots of fucking, back in early June. I'm not sure if taking timeoff stretches is needed.

[Michael]

Different routine this week.
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I would prefer to do ADS, but:
1. Dont have the time or place weekdays
2. Dont know how to tie a weight onto my cock or
3. Dont have an ADS device
soo, 5-day stretches morning and night

M - V,A stretches morning and night
T- rotors, waterwell morning and night
W - static - 5 directions morning and night (some pain in base ligs - close to the pubic bone.) Need to start off less tentions until it becomes more comfortable)
Th - rotors, waterwell morning and night
F - V,A stretches, less than Monday, morning and night (feeling overworked friday night)



No jelqs.
Morning - use a warmed heat/cool pad stuffed down my undies 20 mins.
Evening - use a warm water bottle

I'll stick with this sort of thing next week, perhaps re-introduce jelqs M,W,F at night and keep stretches going every day split morning and night.
Less intensity because I felt overworked.

http://www.cheekycherry.com//ccforums/showthread.php?t=5461

[Michael]

Similar outine to last week, with wet Jelqs Mon, Wed.

Experiemnted with hanging using some cloth bandage noose and soft weight. Felt good for the 2 x half-hour hangs I managed whilst I had the house to myself.

[Michael]

About to do Fridays jelqs. Measurement update:
BPEL: 160mm:P
NBPEL: 140mm:P
EG mid shaft: 120mm :P base around 117, head ~115

5-day stretches, split over morning and night feel better and the change in routine seems to have gained me a bit of length again. Looks like I owe Jason 2 reps.

[Heinz]

U ever tried the waterbottle stretch mate? I feel it gives an excellent stretch and could help benefit u since ur only really doing stretching at the moment.

[jason12]

I would stick to what is working. If you are worried about toughening of your ligs from manual stretches than water bottle stretches should be out imo.

[Michael]

I've seen pictures of the waterbottle stretch - seems a bit like a variant of the V-stretch.

This week has been daily manual stretches and I have also started all day stretches (ADS) using 2 silicone rubber straps - one for the wrap or achor behind the head and other for tension. I checked out the link for ADS devices used by Jason12, but I am not yet sure if they deliver from the USA to Aust.
Anyway, there is a do-it-yourself ADS on another PE site which is similar to what I am doing, but better materails.
The ADS feels good, but the wrap-strap does pinch the skin - I need a wider strap as per that "other PE" site.

[Michael]

I stopped PE after what looks like a swollen vein popped under my head last Wednesday 21st.
It is getting better now, but I'll continue my home remedy of 2-3 asprin per day in case it has anything to do with thrombosis??
http://www.cheekycherry.com//ccforums/showthread.php?t=5556

Another 2 weeks should do it.

Meanwhile I'll concentrate on enjoying that extra half-inch that wasn't there this time last year:cheeky: .

[Rum_Runner]

1/2 inch is good. I would definately take it easy. I might even consider taking the whole entire month of December off. It usually is one big holiday anyways.

[The Assman]

Yah dont wanna have to tell your mom sry cant be home for christmas, tell the family i miss them, but unfortunately my penis blew up!:mrgreen

[Michael]

Don't want my cock to expolde:shock: :shock: .

Sex feels really better for me with some extra length.

I can wank with a full hand width under my head.
Tit fuck with a better stroke between her breasts.
Doggy style gets in more and feels better. (She has never cum this way yet)My cock needed a R&R break anyway:cheeky: .

[Michael]

Christmas 2007
Back into the routine again.
M, W, F - morning warmup, light stretched 1 set manual ADS 5 hr. evening warmup + 1 set light stretches then 300 Wjs.

The popped veins have gone down, assuming that is what they were. Probable cause was too much pressure on the penis veins from holds &(or/after) damage caused by a hanging device noose. Maybe my hands are too strong. Yeah, that's it:cheeky: :cheeky:

[G-Spot19]

Good to hear you have healed up. Goodluck with your future PEing sir:cheeky:

[Michael]

All the best to you too G-spot!

Jan08:
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Current routine:
M-W-F
Morning: warmup and light rotor stretch, 4hr ADS,
Evening: warmup and light rotor stretch + 300 wets
warm down in hot shower.

STRETCHING
I am finding that manual stetches sometime make me turtle a lot the next day and also I don't feel full, like often I can think about sex and get it semi-full at ant time, but sometime the day after it feels retracted and a bit stessed anf looks SMALL:x .

ADS gives a better result cos it is less risk of over-stretching? Anyway I love the way it hangs from ADS.


JELQING:
I have concentrated on my jelqing technique too.. I have tried to make a better OK shape with my hand and it results in more fullness in my cock. I stopped at 280 Wednesday, cos that was enough.

Still doing it one handed because It alows me to work more of my shaft, including that bit between NBP and BP. I need every millimeter.

Also: ruler banned for at least 1 month. In 2007 over-measurung encouraged overworking.

[Codzilla]

I typed ADS in the search and it came up with no matches. Is this a mistake? Anyway, could you fill me in with what ADS is?

And keep at it bro, your methods look really sound. Hope you gain a good couple of millimetres this month in length and girth. Well i'm sure you will!!!

[G-Spot19]

All day stretching.

[Codzilla]

Ohh, dont have one of those little magic gismo's, guess i'll just have to stick to the manual version :cry:

[G-Spot19]

You could always try to make one. There are plenty home made ones around if you can find them. I may give that a try at some point.

[Yee-Gads!]

hey man i know exactly what you mean with the small feeling... my full feeling disapears within about 3 hours. i go to piss and i think 'What the fuuuu...? that was way bigger before my pe'.

anyway are you having any trouble/results with your stretcher? im considering just ditching mine i suppose technically it should help

just blabbering anyway keep it up!

[Michael]

The ADS was too tight and on4 too long Yesterday.
Decreased overnight and morning wood (Negative PI)
http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?t=5811

My partner has commented "you're getting big.." which was the sweetest thing she has told me in recent years. She deserved the 5 big-Os I gave her straight after that.:cheeky:


For next week,, easy on the ads...

[CallMeJ]

Very nice Michael, looks like you're doing well. What are you doing now, seems like you kept adding, and changing routines around. Also post up your stats for each month if possible, Id like to know what members usual gains are.

-J

[Michael]

J,
I'll answer next week when more time.

[santana2009]

Looks like your gains are going brilliant dude, nice to see your partner commenting on your new found cockage. You will continue to gain! Keep at it!

[Codzilla]

Yeah man very nice gaining going on there. Lol the 5 O's. Dude doesn't look like you need a bigger cock for the ladies!!! But for yourself, thats all that matters!!! :mrgreen

[Michael]

J,
I'll answer next week when more time.
J,
I started about Feb last year with a newbie routine. I used one hand to jelq and the other to hold back the skin of the base to maximise workable length. (5"minus head, minus underside testicles = fuck all). Good early gains - about 5mm length, 3mm girth by June. Not much girth gain since, it seems to go up and down a bit. (I think lengthening makes it narrow, also overjelquing can pack the tissue back down, so I try to put a few (<10) drys and holds at the end of my routine)

My partner didn't know and I was under pressure to make size obvious to her before she "caught me out", which she did in August. I wanted to show her it all worked, so I overtrianed - BAD MOVE. Overstretched after that for a while which caused injury. Overstretching / overtraing causes excess turtling which is bad. Gains became harder to achieve, but I managed to limp to 160BPx120 in December with the help of some hanging (hanging caused injury too, which nearly finished it for me) and 2x5-day manual stretches.

I havent measured since. My current routine (M/W/F);
Morning warmup with microwaveable heat pack in undies 20minutes.
1 set quick light rotors or waterwell
ADS (silicon rubber strap, left, right, down for half the day (careful not to overtension. You should feel long and hang well that evening.)
Evening warmup with water bottle (heat pack will do) 10-20 mins
Quick light stretches to de-turtle
300 wets (or lessif your cock feels tired)
If <300, some holds and drys at the end. (Be careful with holds!! any weak spot or injury inthe cock tissue will pop with holds -> end of PE!).

Overtraing feels like your cock doesn't 'feel good' the next day, like when you think of somethingnice you don't get a semi-erection, and the it stays turtled. That's overtraining:( .

2008 - hope to finally get my shit together with not overtraining, but still stretching it. 5 big-os sounds like a boast and it is:cheeky: ! Extra cock makes it easier, but I have also stayed fit and worked out good technique wih my partner, even before PE. Bigger is better.

[CallMeJ]

J,
I started about Feb last year with a newbie routine. I used one hand to jelq and the other to hold back the skin of the base to maximise workable length. (5"minus head, minus underside testicles = fuck all). Good early gains - about 5mm length, 3mm girth by June. Not much girth gain since, it seems to go up and down a bit. (I think lengthening makes it narrow, also overjelquing can pack the tissue back down, so I try to put a few (<10) drys and holds at the end of my routine)

My partner didn't know and I was under pressure to make size obvious to her before she "caught me out", which she did in August. I wanted to show her it all worked, so I overtrianed - BAD MOVE. Overstretched after that for a while which caused injury. Overstretching / overtraing causes excess turtling which is bad. Gains became harder to achieve, but I managed to limp to 160BPx120 in December with the help of some hanging (hanging caused injury too, which nearly finished it for me) and 2x5-day manual stretches.

I havent measured since. My current routine (M/W/F);
Morning warmup with microwaveable heat pack in undies 20minutes.
1 set quick light rotors or waterwell
ADS (silicon rubber strap, left, right, down for half the day (careful not to overtension. You should feel long and hang well that evening.)
Evening warmup with water bottle (heat pack will do) 10-20 mins
Quick light stretches to de-turtle
300 wets (or lessif your cock feels tired)
If <300, some holds and drys at the end. (Be careful with holds!! any weak spot or injury inthe cock tissue will pop with holds -> end of PE!).

Overtraing feels like your cock doesn't 'feel good' the next day, like when you think of somethingnice you don't get a semi-erection, and the it stays turtled. That's overtraining:( .

2008 - hope to finally get my shit together with not overtraining, but still stretching it. 5 big-os sounds like a boast and it is:cheeky: ! Extra cock makes it easier, but I have also stayed fit and worked out good technique wih my partner, even before PE. Bigger is better.

Very nice, this is actually only about my 3rd week, doing M/W/F 200 wet jelqs, I think I'll change it up in another month or so, don't want to rush it.

But, what is "ADS (silicon rubber strap)" never heard of that technique..

Are you also extending with an extender?

-J

[Michael]

I would post a picture but this site won't let me. Here is a link to what a swimming goggle strap is.
http://www.swimoutlet.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=9797&Click=310393
I use 2. One to wrap under the head and another for tension tied to my leg, or around my waist (down, left, right). Look for posts by Jason12 too, he is THE site expert at stretching. There is a good picture on another famous PE site that shows how to make your own ADS.

You don't have to be too eager to up the number of Jelqs. If I was to do one thing over again it would be to go more by when my cock had enough. A newbie cock responds with growth better than one that has toughened up.

Good luck J.

[Redwood]

I would post a picture but this site won't let me. Here is a link to what a swimming goggle strap is.
http://www.swimoutlet.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=9797&Click=310393
I use 2. One to wrap under the head and another for tension tied to my leg, or around my waist (down, left, right). Look for posts by Jason12 too, he is THE site expert at stretching. There is a good picture on another famous PE site that shows how to make your own ADS.

You don't have to be too eager to up the number of Jelqs. If I was to do one thing over again it would be to go more by when my cock had enough. A newbie cock responds with growth better than one that has toughened up.

Good luck J.

Hey Michael, what do you mean by that?


Happy gaining and talk to you later, Redwood.

[CallMeJ]

I would post a picture but this site won't let me. Here is a link to what a swimming goggle strap is.
http://www.swimoutlet.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=9797&Click=310393
I use 2. One to wrap under the head and another for tension tied to my leg, or around my waist (down, left, right). Look for posts by Jason12 too, he is THE site expert at stretching. There is a good picture on another famous PE site that shows how to make your own ADS.

You don't have to be too eager to up the number of Jelqs. If I was to do one thing over again it would be to go more by when my cock had enough. A newbie cock responds with growth better than one that has toughened up.

Good luck J.

Awesome, thanks for the tips Michael.

Keep us posted!

[Michael]

Hey Michael, what do you mean by that?


Happy gaining and talk to you later, Redwood.

Hard to explain..
Sometime you intended to to 300, WG, but after say 260, your cock loses interest and is tired (low erection), that would be enough, maybe 5 dries to finish off and then warm down.
Also, an earlier post in this thread has a link to positive and negaitive PIs which give you some indication of overworking.

[Michael]

Measured yesterday at 160BPx120 still. Maybe another +1mm on both, not enough to call.

Not shrinking anyway.

Flacid stretch makes it to 165-170BP within a few seconds when warm and under tension.

The six and a half mark (BP) is teasing me a bit, but I want to get there.

More of the same routine this week. I think those ligs have to stretch more to make room for the erectile tissue to grow.

[Tiger_Penis]

Keep it up!

[G-Spot19]

Nice determination. Glad to see you still wanting to keep going strong. Peace:cool

[jamie]

great gains man. you've really been an inspiration for the "average guys". i'm starting out pretty much the same as you did. with the collective support of all our fellow pe'ers i'm confident we will reach our goal. i'll be watching your progress very closely. all the best:D

[Michael]

great gains man. you've really been an inspiration for the "average guys". i'm starting out pretty much the same as you did. with the collective support of all our fellow pe'ers i'm confident we will reach our goal. i'll be watching your progress very closely. all the best:D

Thanks Jamie.
Glad to inspire you and hope to get you though those inevitible doubts and plateaus.
I prefer to also be an insiration to small guys, as I was (still am small/medium length and thin, but let's not split hairs).

Now for my latest measure:
BPEL: 163mm (I meausred up to 165mm last week, down to 162 later, but 163 seems to be cemeted in).:P Grown:P
NBP - EL: Approx 145mm. Closing in on six inches. Six inches NPB puts me in the universally accepted definition of a medium penis (6-7").
Girth: No real change, although after Mondays workout got fat at then end like a baseball bat, but settles back to it's usual width. (Less than 5" is thin).
Flacid BP stretch: 170-175mm.

Workout (since last post)- 3x a week
Warmups - hot pack in pants for 10-20 minutes while doing ther things
Mornings - 1 set manual stretches about 60 seconds each stretch.
Evenings - V's and A's ~ 3 each of for 30-60 seconds
- 300 wets, one handed
- 10-20 second holds during jelqing (I normally do this when a pleasurable thought creates an unwanted hard-on. A 10 second hold sorts it out and helps with the overall workout.) Normally about 5 holds happen.

ADS: Stopped using it because 1) Causing damage 2)Seems to be creating a thin band where the strap wraps around 3) I am gonna get caught wearing it 4)Stopped working - needed to change routine to break plateau.

[jason12]

Man you have come a long way! Congratulations on those gains. All that dedication really paid off.

[G-Spot19]

*Standing Ovation!*

Great job! We need an applauding emoticon!

[Michael]

PE interrupted by some really good sex today and yesterday. Nice to hear my partner noticing my larger cock and enjoying it. The sound of her coming again and again is just so good.

Flacid strectch came in at about 175-180 range this morning. Didn't measure anything else. If the ligs are stretching, the rest has room to grow.

Had a bit of spare time this week to add my bit to the "love corner".

[Codzilla]

Yeah man that post was awesome!!! I really really liked it, thought it was one of the best "guides" on this forum. Keep it up buddy.

[Michael]

A quick measure of length shows bpel inthe 163-165 range.
August 2008will be 18 months in and a good time to stop for a few weeks.

I am hoping to cement in a bpel of 165 before then. fingers crossed.

Sticking with the same routine as the last few months till then.

[Michael]

165mm BP
Cool:cool Hope it holds.

Aggrivated an old injury this week from lazy-ass stretches so I'll miss todays workout.

[Rum_Runner]

Congrats on the gains my man:D

[Michael]

One more workout then a week off. Probably not tonight because my partner is promising something really, really nice which has been giving me a semi on and off all day. I do love her.

[Michael]

Nearly at the end of a week off. It has been a really cold week and my flacid cock looks like it used to - tiny!, although a quick wriggle hangs it a bit.

My next routine will focus more on girth, while still working for more length.

Planned routine for next week:
Warmup with hot pad 20 minutes.
Drys / holds 30 minutes

Weeks after:
Morning quickie:
Warmup with hot pad 20 minutes.
Light stretches and drys 10 minutes.
Eveining workout:
Warmup with hot pad 20 minutes.
Manual stretches
200 wets
drys / holds

[kim]

great gains Michael! you truly are an inspiration for us guys who started at 5". :mrgreen keep it up! I bet your girlfriend is impressed at your gains.

[Michael]

She hasn't asked me to stop..

[Michael]

I have stopped PE since last post for personal reasons. My flacid penis is visible smaller and my partner has commented on this, but says it still feels the same as before inside.

My BPEL still maxes out at 165mm so no losses there so far.

H o p e f u l l y re-start in 1-2 weeks.

[w3]

Hope everything turns out ok..

And congrats on your gains thusfar. Very nice!
You are almost 30% bigger by volume, than what you started with!
And 15% gain in lenght. Good job man!

On my dick that would mean gains like this;
To get the same gain of 30% in volume, I would need to turn my original 8"x5.5" into about 9.2"x5.7", or just plainly stretching and turn it into 10" in lenght. :mrgreen now that's what I call a pencil dick. :lol: 10x5.5
15% gain in lenght with my member would mean to stretch it into 9".

And you did this in what, one and a half year?
That's a goal for me. :twisted:

[Michael]

Good comparison W3, and it helps to think of % gains only because that is the reality of what we've got to work with.



Good luck with you 15% goal. Then you really will be porn star material.

[kim]

everytime I visit Michael's journal, his determination and persistence inspires me! Coming from a man who was in the same position as I am now - started at five. :D

I am happy for you and your girl.

[Michael]

Happy to inspire.


Managed a workout today.
Light stretches
about 100 wets.
About 5 intense holds and targetted holds. Targetted means a short shaft attempt at Godma's girth routine in the sticky section.

Shaft plumped up nicely and made my ok grip a little wider.

[w3]

If I'm at +15% in 1.5 years, that would be great.
Just gotta keep at it. Consistency is the key.

[Michael]

Staying consistent, same routine as my last post M-W-F. - been too busy to post much lately though.

Unofficial measurement 165/166? x 120/122?.. I really feel plumped up after the girthy rutine, but nothing obvious a day later..

[Michael]

Been too busy to post lately, but keeping on with my girthy routine.

Godmas routine for me is just holds for 20-30 second and targetted holds for toward the base. I think you need at least 7 inches to do Godmas workout with any precision, or maybe my hands are just too big.

Still 1-200 wets with holds in between after 100.

Girth thread:
http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?p=166403&posted=1#post166403

[Tiger_Penis]

I know what its like to be busy man. Keep at it though!

[Michael]

OK..
No gains for a while. still 145/165 x 120 maybe a millimeter more.

My partner again commented that my cock looks smaller since I took a break 29 August. A quick measure of erect confirms nothing is lost. A quick fuck confirmed that I can give her two quick orgasms without too much effort.

My workouts have been geting shorter since starting the girthy routine 15 August. Holds seems to render my cock wider in my hand on the day, but nothing is staying so far.

It seems logical that if I keep expanding it, something's gotta grow eventually.

I'll add some wets to the routine, say 200-250, rather than the 100-150.

[wern]

Well done on the gains sir!!

[Michael]

Thanks wern, been kinda static for a while.

300 wets and better stretching last night.
Gotta stop being so fucking lazy and get the growth going again with better workouts.

[wern]

Hmm, are you doing MWF? Are you being consistent? Are you going for girth? In which case, are you doing girth exercises other than holds? Ie dry jelqs?

[Michael]

Yeah, generally MWF.

Stretches, wets, holds.

I get the feeling my ligs healed tougher when I took a 2-week break in August. I get the feeling that I should go to daily stretching to get the lenght happenig again.

As for girth, holds and targetted holds in between the wets.

I am going fo whatever gain I can get.

I want to get to 7" BPL eventually, but the girth is the big effect on her, so 125mm would make the whole thing medium.

Rum Runner has hit a wall too.

[Michael]

My flacid stretch length BP hits a wall at 7". I am pretty sure it used to approach 7.5" after some stretching. Now it is not elastic pat that point.

Not sure how to solve this, so..

Did some more aggresive stretching yesterday broken up through the day. manuals, a couple of V's, A's and 30 mns of the lazy ass stretch.

I want to get the elasticity back past 7".
http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?p=168482#post168482

[diabolical]

Congrats on your gains, hopefully I have the same luck as you do gaining.

[Michael]

Stretches, stretches, stretches..................

Man my cock head is feeling sore from the constrant pull-grip.

[alexsweden]

Good gains Michael, keep it up!

[Michael]

My girth appears to have gained. I can measure up to 125mm a day after the last girth workout, but it narows back to about 122mm after two days.

http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?p=168959#post168959

[Michael]

I have about 167mm BPL now. Girth is still variable, but my tools is really good looking after a workout:wink: . Flacid is starting to look ok again.

I had enough points, I'd post a picture.

The girth measure is higher after some workouts if the stuff between the skin and the erectile tissue puffs up a little. When this happens I finish the routine cos it is real gains, just overworking which is bad.

I have moderated my stretches a bit now that I have forced some flexibility back, but forcing is kinda overtraining which stresses and turtles my cock and effects my libido. I hate turtling, cos it looks like - tiny!

Routine -
stretches morning and nite every 2nd day (and some lite stretched on the off days).
Holds, dries every 2nd day with some jelqs until my cock gets tired.

[PepeLePew]

I had enough points, I'd post a picture.

What do you mean by points & picture?

Nice gain.

[Michael]

An old post tells the story. This site does does not paste stuff well.

http://www.cheekycherry.com//ccforums/showthread.php?p=172171#post172171

[Michael]

It might be time for a deconditioning break...

http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?p=175357#post175357

[Michael]

No PE in the last week. I have been having some trouble maintaining a good erection in the last few weeks. I am not sure if this is Finasteride messing with my sex drive or that fact that my cock needs a break from stretching.

My flacid stretch was close to 7.5" again but it took a LOT of intese stretching and damaged the tip of my penis and made parts of my glans really tough - not what a cock should feellike.

My cock looks small again when flacid so I may do some light stretches this week and some holds, but even holds do not push my cock girth out to near my fingertips like they did a month ago.

:(
Maybe I should measure.., but scarded of measuring a loss

[Michael]

Checked my stats;
Girth holding at 120-125mm:icon_smile: good news - the holds are holding!
NBPEL ~140-145:neut: , but I have put on weight.
BPEL ~165mm

At first, like just erect, my stats looked a bit like my starting stats, like, oh-fuck - just 5-and-a-bit"!!, but like I said erections are taking a bit of work to get full on, so more stumulation and sure enough I got a good hard bentish cock to measure.

[w3]

Good that the gains are still there.
Are you doing any kegels?

[Michael]

No kegels lately, but will start them up again.

The break continues....

My cock is looking whiter than it has for a long time. This is probably because I am not torturing it with overtraining.

Measured 145/165 x 120-123 today.

Flacid stretch 180ish.

[Michael]

Still on a decon break, except for the weekly light stretch and holds.
I have not done them for a week and last night thought my cock felt skinny ish during masturbation, that is the point where my finger meets my thumb has definately moved in the wrong direction.

My measured girth is 120mm max, so it has lost some girth dammit!

fuck! Fuck FUCK!!:(

Length still same.

[billy1964]

Michael you have done wonders for your cock and have motivated many. Reps to you. Keep up the fantastic work.

[Michael]

And reps in return.


Size update, no change from April, which tells me 145/165x120 is cemented in.
Health update:
My penis is feeling pretty good, but there is still a tender spot on my tip, which is what used to get bruised from the workouts.

[Michael]

About 4 months into my deconditioning break...

Hoping to restart after 5 or 6 months. My cock feels good enogh to jack off twice a day lately, in between sex:cool .

I am not sure what would be a good restart routine, but I think that thickness is my next theme again. I'll take routine suggestions from any successful restarters...

[Michael]

Restarted PE last week after a long break. It feels good to be back into it again.

Routine:
Hot water bottle warmup
60 secs stretch in ech direction
120 wet jelqs

one set of 60 second stretches leaves my suspensory lig a little tendor in the last (downward) stretch, so that tells me enough for now. It was a bit the same when first started all that time ago - the ligament felt kinda sore. I do NOT want to re-toughen my ligs again.

As for jelqs, after 120 of one handed OK grip The end half of my cock is fully red and felt like no more were needed.

[The_Scientist]

Awesome starting PE is always awesome, I love waking up and my dick feeling huge when I take my morning piss.

Also, congrats on just listening to your body when starting back, it's hard as hell to be that patient.

What are your goals?

[Michael]

My goals are to be medium. So then I can honestly say that I don't have a small dick. So 6NBPx4.8 would be the boundary between the larger end of small to the smaller side of medium.

And yeah, the feeling of fullness from PE is cool.

And totally agree about litening to your body - sometime, less is more?

-----
Today's routine same as last post except water bottle warm down under suction. What I mean is the bottle I use acts like a penis pump when I squeeze a bit of warm water out of it and create a suction when I unsqueeze the bottle. Vaseline makes a good seal. Leaves me looking really full and girthy.

[Michael]

Penis pump update..
http://www.cheekycherry.com/ccforums/showthread.php?t=7905

[Michael]

I have stopped PE again for now.

There is some girth gain after each workout, but temporary. Recently stress (unrelated to PE) has been a problem and there has been some erection issues.

Erections are coming back, probably from recovering from a stressful event in my life, but erections are precious and I won't risk impotence.

For now, I might do some jelqs, holds and very mild stretches weekly, for maintenance purposes.

For anyone reading this, earlier in this diary, you will note that I took a two week break in 2008, which my partner says seems to have shrunken my cock at the time. It also pretty well stopped any meaningful gains from then on..

[Apollo]

I have stopped PE again for now.

There is some girth gain after each workout, but temporary. Recently stress (unrelated to PE) has been a problem and there has been some erection issues.

Erections are coming back, probably from recovering from a stressful event in my life, but erections are precious and I won't risk impotence.

For now, I might do some jelqs, holds and very mild stretches weekly, for maintenance purposes.

For anyone reading this, earlier in this diary, you will note that I took a two week break in 2008, which my partner says seems to have shrunken my cock at the time. It also pretty well stopped any meaningful gains from then on..

I'm having trouble reading between the lines here. What happened? :hug:

[Michael]

I'm OK now, just had a bad event that fucked me up a lot for a few months.

Stress = hormone changes = loss of libido = erection problems.

I still want to try for more girth later (closer to the Durex Condoms quoted average of 13.1cm girth, but I'll settle for 12.5 to be realistic), but I want to be totally confident that I won't do damage.

My morning wood is re-emerging which is good, but my sexual performance has dropped back to a few minutes.
Again, stress = heightened nervousness = heightened sensitivity = quicker ejaculation.

My partner doesn't care, but sex is my obsession.

['RockHard'RickReno]

Hope your mind becomes clear friend! Stress sucks.