If everybody's gains are real.......

[Zanzabar]

Im not saying PE doesnt work or anything but where are all the progress pics? I know if I gained 3" on my dick, id be posting before/after pictures like it was my day job. Its just that I dont feel convinced/encouraged until I see ample evidence. I mean come on, we live in a modern world, EVERYBODY has a digital camera.... Atleast a quarter of the people would have before and after pics. Ive browsed through the diaries and couldnt find a single post with before and after pics. All I see are numbers that anybody w/ a 1" dick or 19" dick could either post. I want to believe......Somebody explain......

[zwmusic]

When I joined this board I was just as skeptical as you are. But I wanted a bigger cock (bottom line), and used my common sense when judging whether NPE was bullshit or not. The concept of Wet Jelqing (or Milking) makes all the sense because it causes the tissue to expand/brake/heal, therefore when you're performing wet jelqs sensibly and with a good technique, you're working towards expanding the layers of tissue inside your shaft. I couldn't post pics because I didn't want my lady to suspect I was doing NPE. Nowadays she knows (and really likes the result :D ). G-Spot did put some pics up in the old forum, but I don't know where they are now. Godma also came up with some pics (just after ones) and it was obvious that he really gained massively.

Yes, before and after pics can make a case for skepticals like you, but I didn't care about that kind of proof and I did gain nearly 2". That's enough for me and I don't see why I should have to prove anything to anyone other than giving my word.

Ah, and this thread should be in the General PE Conversation. Could a mod/admin move it to the appropriate section. Thanks.

[Zanzabar]

True but this is an exercise not a religion. I can find countless pics of people's progress, before/after shots of people who work out their body and excercise. I have been browsing for hours and have yet to find pictures. All I see are numbers that anybody could make up? Im just being skeptical and dont want to waste my time. I shouldnt have to rely on faith if PE is real because there would be hard evidence. Catch my drift?

[Zoran]

me also...can't understand why there aren't many before and after pics...that'd be helpfull to the newbies...
But bottomline as ZW said is what you think and not the others...If you start a routine and you feel satisfied go on...if not just stop and don't waste your time....it's as simple as that....

I came here 3 months ago and have learned that this is more of a commune then a blog...people help eachother with issues such as girlfriends, alchohol, size issues...but most of all about their self esteem. So this is really a fun place to be...
Plus you learn how to love and respect your body...ummm dick...:lol: so enjoy

[Officespace2801]

While it would seem to make sense to take photos, there are a few problems with it.

The biggest problem, is that almost EVERYONE is skeptical when they first began. And even if they believe it works (perhaps based off past experience), they question whether they can actually PE for long enough to make sizable gains. I sure as hell didn't think I could stick with a routine. So I didn't take photos and now I have no proof to show the world. But I know for a fact that I gained size and there are far too many people reporting gains for this to be just a practical joke.

The question you should be asking yourself is not, "Why is there no photograph proof that this works?" but rather, "Do I really want a bigger dick?" If the answer is yes, then ask yourself this, "Am I willing to sacrifice a small fraction of my time in one month to find out of this really works?" The information is free and the time recommended for a newbie is extremely small (15-20 minutes a day, 3 days a week)- it's not like you're losing much if we're lying to you (which we're not).

Again, the best evidence I have is to direct you to the diaries section and look at all the people who have been keeping track of their gains over the span of months who say they've gained. Sure, a couple of friends could get together to make a website to fool people but....that many? I find it hard to believe that a person could maintain a journal for may months just to trick newcomers. The photographs aren't there, but the numbers are.

Edit- I just noticed your stats...even if PE never worked, you're already in great shape.

[zwmusic]

True but this is an exercise not a religion. I can find countless pics of people's progress, before/after shots of people who work out their body and excercise. I have been browsing for hours and have yet to find pictures. All I see are numbers that anybody could make up? Im just being skeptical and dont want to waste my time. I shouldnt have to rely on faith if PE is real because there would be hard evidence. Catch my drift?

I catch your drift, but don't you think pics can be fabricated just as well? There are countless porn sites which come up with the most ridiculous cock sizes, you don't need to be an expert on photoshop to realize they are blatant fakes. Like many newbies, I didn't intend to make a case for others because of what have just being said...

The biggest problem, is that almost EVERYONE is skeptical when they first began. And even if they believe it works (perhaps based off past experience), they question whether they can actually PE for long enough to make sizable gains. I sure as hell didn't think I could stick with a routine. So I didn't take photos and now I have no proof to show the world. But I know for a fact that I gained size and there are far too many people reporting gains for this to be just a practical joke.

... plus the fact that I wanted to keep PE a secret.

Also, NPE is still very much a taboo for the vast majority of men. Right, NPE isn't a religion, it's just an exercise, but it's not like you're going to the gym to exercise your cock, are you? The male genitalia is by far the most censored part of the human body, even for standards of artistic nude - specially an erect penis.

By todays standards of mass media, and what is considered acceptable in society, an erect penis is by far more prohitive than a vagina for public viewing. This fact does have an effect on people's decision to post a picture of their own cock, even if it is on a PE website.

[hugh g rection]

I've put up flaccid pictures before and then took them down about 6 hours later.

I have a really simple reason for not putting pictures of myself online, other people take them and use them and it pisses me off. It also actually got me into real trouble once so that's that.

I know a bunch of people now who have gained anywhere from .5 inch to 2 inches doing NPE so really, if you don't want to do it then don't.

Everyone is skeptical to start, but the majority of people just bite the bullet and stop being a pussy about it. :lol:

[trugain]

Question?

Will the pictures solve anything or create more questions? :?

Of course you can say "There are no pictures for proof, so this must not be true." but if we already had pictures you would say "C'mon those aren't real, someone photoshoped." You see it's a two sided sword. The bottom line is you don't believe this work, because there are plenty of other sites with photos.


Really if you wanted to look at dicks all day that's all you had to say in the first place. :wink:

[snapperbait]

What is decieving about bodybuilding is that in order to obtain results lik you see in the body rags, you have to be shooting juice. No way can you gain 30 pounds of muscle in 2 months, or double your bench in 6 weeks. All that is fake so don't buy into it. This is for real, and it does work, and you dont need any outside help to reach goals. Not that you would in bodybuilding, but what is advertised as steroid free is a total hoax. I can honestly see this as being the next wave of "personal male fitness". When bodybuilding, and the notion of lifting weights came to public attention it was taboo- infact people thought if you lifted weights you were a homo. Now they can't publish enough mags about it. Same will happen one day for PE.

[Spike]

Catch my drift?

Have you taken a load of "before" pics already?
I'd guess that 99% of people don't which would make any "after" photos redundant.

[zwmusic]

He can't get enough of his willy for sure. There must be hundreds of pics of his knob all over his bedroom walls waiting to be posted as a proof.

[Shane_Bos]

Ive definitely seen some but this was about a year ago and cant remember who it was. Just remember some one complimenting him on his watch :lol:

Zanzabar, why dont you take before pics. PE for a while then take some after pics once you've grown to help future skeptics.

[snapperbait]

Ive definitely seen some but this was about a year ago and cant remember who it was. Just remember some one complimenting him on his watch :lol:

Zanzabar, why dont you take before pics. PE for a while then take some after pics once you've grown to help future skeptics. here is to that- I think zanzabar should volunteer since he is eggin everyone else on to take the responsibility.

[Axlerod]

We might all happily talk about our cocks and other people cocks all day like it's the most natural thing in the world. But then, for me at least, standing there in your room taking photographs of your dick and then sticking them on the internet is just a step too far.

Like everyone else has said, if you're interested then give it a go. Spend a bit of time on this forum. There are a great bunch of guys here. They are genuinly interested in helping people out with this, and indeed anything else you care to bring up. Occasionally people pop in and post what are most likely bullshit claims, but usually they have some ulterior motive.

We're not trying to sell anything. Why would we lie? Spend some time on here and I'm sure you'll see.

Best of luck with it and I hope you're convinced soon.

[jason12]

Pictures don't really show much because at different angles you can make it look like you lose/gain insane amount of inches. The only way to solve that would be to take ruler pictures which are going to be hard to accomplish lol.

[hugh g rection]

You know this kind of stuff always bothers me. Someone signs up, makes 2 posts that both question people and then dissapears.

It really makes me wonder if they aren't coming from other sites to try and stir up trouble.

[Axlerod]

Kinda like PE gang warfare? Shall we make a return hit on their turf?

[Zoran]

hahahaa that'd be funny and exciting...let's recruit an army...lol :lol:

[MagnumXL]

Wise man once said, wax on wax off. can ya dig it?

[zwmusic]

You know this kind of stuff always bothers me. Someone signs up, makes 2 posts that both question people and then dissapears.

It really makes me wonder if they aren't coming from other sites to try and stir up trouble.

It pretty much looks like it... Those turds.

[SLowlybutsurely]

Kinda like PE gang warfare? Shall we make a return hit on their turf?Lol, that guy was stealth though, he didn't leave much of a trail :)

We're not trying to sell anything. Why would we lie? Spend some time on here and I'm sure you'll see.Yah seriously. I mean, I know I've gained about 4 inches in a length, and 3 in girth, but it's no biggy. I can't have sex with a girl anymore without her screaming in agony and bliss, which in turn brings random hot chicks, with large tits no less, into our room and it becomes a crazy orgy with me the only guy around. But you do what you like. Rep me.

[trugain]

I mean who really needs pictures, the fact that no one on here is making outragous claims has been good enough for me. There is no one on here claiming to have a 18 or 14 inch penis. I mean we have Hugh G(Lucky bastard) but thats only one out of how many other users?

I like this site and the people on it. :wink:

[hugh g rection]

I mean who really needs pictures, the fact that no one on here is making outragous claims has been good enough for me. There is no one on here claiming to have a 18 or 14 inch penis. I mean we have Hugh G(Lucky bastard) but thats only one out of how many other users?

I like this site and the people on it. :wink:


To be fair I have been PE'ing since about a month or two before I joined this site so it's not like it all came over night.

Yes I am a lucky bastard though. I'm ugly so it balances out ;)

[K-man]

Yes you are!! :D :D

[Axlerod]

ahem.....pot....kettle.....black :wink:

[SLowlybutsurely]

I like this site and the people on it. :wink:I would have agreed with you, but you put that wink at the end...fag.

LOL :wink:

[IMR]

I believe everyone here, most seem very genuine in their posts.. I am VERY glad I found this website, CC is the Best..

[trugain]

I would have agreed with you, but you put that wink at the end...fag.

LOL :wink:

Ha. LOL! :lol:

[zeolite]

You know this kind of stuff always bothers me. Someone signs up, makes 2 posts that both question people and then dissapears.

It really makes me wonder if they aren't coming from other sites to try and stir up trouble.Maybe he got scared off because everyone disagreed with his post.

[bubbahotep]

maybe he got scared because he joined a forum full of dudes and then asked to see pictures of their dicks. :lol:

[trugain]

^ More than likely that's what happened. He is now reposting in another forum.

[Python]

Well, to add my two pennies, I gained while flaccid, much bigger viens etc.

And I gained 0.1 erect girth and was on the road to more gains before my injury.

[zwmusic]

I read about your injury, take it easy next time. And remember to always allow a day off in between workouts.

[SLowlybutsurely]

What was the injury? What lead to it?

[zwmusic]

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