Aaaggg~hhh!!!

[Valk]

So this morning I looked in the mirror, after removing the black sheets I usually hang over them, and noticed a defiency in my chest shape.
There's a large gap between my left and right where there is no muscle at all.
It looks kind of like this...i'll try to get a real pic soon.
Basicly, it looks like this:

...............||
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\............/....\............/
..\_____/........\_____/

I know a big part of it is genetics, but will it fill out more eventually??
Damn, I shouldnt have overslept when God was handing out Good Genetics at the local mall. :x

[Thought Pro]

Do you have man boobs?

[soserious]

the divide betweeen the pectorals, the sternum yes?

i have to tell you, when i was about 15 i had a 37" chest, tight and muscular with full pecs and no gap.
then my rib cage grew and my muscles did too (but not as fast apparently) when i was 18 my chest was 42", somewhat flatter-with a larger gap between the two pecs by the time i was 19 it was 45" or 46" and again, a smaller gap.
today its less, but the gap is smaller.

so, i would say that the gap wil not always be as big, but it is probably going to be there anyway.
i find chests, and ribcages tend to be somewhat changeable in general.

some have square pecs, some round (ive been told mine are more round than anything) and others are more triangular.

dont anguish too much Valk, explain more if you like.

ss

[Valk]

Do you have man boobs?

I have a very slight version of gyno but its hardly there. Why do you ask?

[Valk]

Ss, I'm trying to find a picture that explains it better. I dont have a digital camera so its not gonna be a pic of myself.

[soserious]

Ss, I'm trying to find a picture that explains it better. I dont have a digital camera so its not gonna be a pic of myself.


ok, but i think i know what you mean anyways.
but for sure see if you can find one.

as for slight gyno, many guys do have slight gyno anyway.

[Valk]

Ok, here's a picture. (not me)

http://www.datacertain.com/upload_files/images/frontmuscular.jpg

Ok, its not as severe as this guy has it, but you get the point.

[soserious]

yes, exactly what i thought you meant. he has more triangular pecs.

a couple of points:

remember that as youre rib cage grows that youre pec attatchments move and re-arrange themselves since the ribs theyre attatched to grow and move. you have between the pecs tendons attatching the pecs directly to the sternum bone, the pecs also attatch to the clavicles/ collar bones and also to the upper arm bone. all these bones growing often changes the visible layout and shape of the muscle.
often this shape is just genetc, coming about from the growth in height of the rib cage, so that the pec attatchments to the ribcage get seperated a little more and the curve of the under pec i slightly elongated to create the "V" shape instead of the "U" or "O" .

rib cage can still be changing shape into youre twenties.

i dont know howmeaty youre pecs are but the fuller they get the less this gap will be obvious. but again, largely its probably part of youre new shape.

dude, id rather wake up to a slightly altered pec insertion than to a big ugly bal head :(
however thats a moot point and i can understand youre anguish over it.
but its not particularly a bad thing, triangular pecs are what some people just have.

do you do push ups?
and if so do you make sure you stretch youre chest too? like holding onto each side of a doorframe palms away rom you and leaning forward until you feel a good stretch in youre pecs?


in any case this shape possibly isnt youre final one for sure, it may be somewhat riangular though.
you have a fairly long torso?

ss

[Valk]

Thanks for you reply.

The only exercises I do for my pecs are flat dumbell presses and dumbell flies.
And on chest day I do those stretches you described. I was thinking about giving priority to my upper pecs (pecs minor) so that my chest will look bigger and my triangular void will look smaller. Will this work?

rib cage can still be changing shape into youre twenties.

Are you saying that void will only get bigger?

I'm a tall person so my torso is long, but its relatively small compared to my legs, which are very long.

[Valk]

I think this pic explains your story Shawn.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa67abig.jpg

[soserious]

Thanks for you reply.

The only exercises I do for my pecs are flat dumbell presses and dumbell flies.
And on chest day I do those stretches you described. I was thinking about giving priority to my upper pecs (pecs minor) so that my chest will look bigger and my triangular void will look smaller. Will this work?



Are you saying that void will only get bigger?

I'm a tall person so my torso is long, but its relatively small compared to my legs, which are very long.



i think in general the bigger the chest, and thicker i would say-especially along the inner pecs, the less "spaced out" it will appear. but only to a degree.

Are you saying that void will only get bigger?

no. im saying it may change shape a bit more, wether that makes it seem bigger or smaller or unchanged is to be seen. like i said, my chest grew a gap that wasnt there before but now that gap is a little smaller-how? i do not know. perhaps the insertion points somehow moved slightly further in, i cannot say.

hmm, some people have long pecs , others short. take schwarzenegger for example, hes pecs are long. van damnes are medium to short. actual pec length dioesnt neccesarily correlate with long or short rib cage, as its more to do with proportions. but either way, im sure youre not done *changing yet, doesnt neccesarily mean tll get bigger.
look at it like this:
the inner chest gap can spread (makes it look more "V"
BUT the outer chest can also grow ouwards as the entire ribcage expands, stretching the pec muscles laterally creating more of a "U".
in order for it to look smaller it itself doesnt neccesarily have t be smaller, remember proportions.

if this makes sense.

ss

[soserious]

I think this pic explains your story Shawn.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa67abig.jpg


yeah, see the blue bits, those bits grow still in you. cos its the underlying attatchments that spread the muscle and make its "shape" as the bones theyre attatched to grow.

i wouldnt fret too much until youre sure youre done growing.

[Valk]

I think I'm gonna go after this kind of chest. He has a large gap in the middle but it still looks good.

http://www.datacertain.com/upload_files/images/image036.jpg

[soserious]

good shape and condition to go for.
GRRR, much better body than what i got lol.
my gut sticks out too much right now and im out of shape again :x

[Spike]

You're obsessing about nothing - I bet people don't give you a second look when you walk down the street.

[soserious]

You're obsessing about nothing - I bet people don't give you a second look when you walk down the street.


who, Valk or SS?

[Valk]

Whats that for stupid comment? I ask about my chest shape and suddenly you're calling me ugly?

[soserious]

Whats that for stupid comment? I ask about my chest shape and suddenly you're calling me ugly?


ugly? no ones calling anyone ugly :?

[Valk]

Spike did. He basicly said: Why do you bother, you aint pretty, and you never will.

[soserious]

Spike did. He basicly said: Why do you bother, you aint pretty, and you never will.


nah, i think what he means is that people wouldnt "notice" anything "wrong" ergo theres nothing ugly, and nothing wrong to stare at.

unless he was talking to SS, in which case he probably meant that no-one would notice a slack gut (on me).

either way im positive it wasnt meant in an offensive way,
we know you can be very insecure about youre body, but Spike doesnt say that kind of thing.
Whats up Valk? this chest thing really stressing you that much today?
You ok?

[Bobo]

Spike did. He basicly said: Why do you bother, you aint pretty, and you never will.
No, he said You're stressed out about something that doesn't matter.

[soserious]

ss is somewhat confused.
did someone turn two pages at once? :?

[Beefeater]

I think Spike meant that it's no big deal, it's not as if someone is gonna look at you twice because of your chest. Like Bobo said, nothing for you to worry about.

What Spike said doesnt mean he's calling you ugly.