Tongkat Ali Supplement = Penis & Testicle Growth?

[SLowlybutsurely]

I was reading up on a more "natural" testosterone enhancer, and I came across Long Jack. One of the more intriguing side effects of its use is it increases testosterone production naturally in the body, via Leydig cell production, which, allegedly, is the cause of a pre-pubescent boy's genetalia increase during puberty. Evidently, using high doses can increase the size of one's penis and testicles naturally. Has anyone use this before?

Here is one of the links:

http://www.testingtongkatali.com/tongkatalisize.htm

Does anyone know where to buy this shit in larger doses?

[Master Long]

I just wouldn't fuck with testosterone levels period, natural or not. Unless you have some kind of a disorder, I'm pretty certain they're where they are for a reason.

[oldwhiteguy]

Good attitude Master Long. I'm with you I think the jury is still out on this Tongkat ali. I need more convincing.

[206crazy]

wouldnt messing around with testorone levels kinda be like taking a form of steroid??

[Master Long]

Yup. And why the hell would you want bigger testicles, anyway? Girls tend to focus more on the penis. A lot more. So unless they're pea-sized and you talk in a squeaky voice, don't worry about it. Even if she did care, they're pulled back into the body during sex anyway, and she's sure as hell not going to be thinking of your nuts at that time.

[SLowlybutsurely]

Well, you can also use it for body building, if you were so inclined. I'm very interested in this...

[jason12]

Just because it effects your testosterone dosent make it a steroid. To classify something as a steroid depends on its chemical structure. Also deepening of the voice is an androgenic effect not the anabolic effect you want to get from steroids. Usually it will come with some virilizing effects though. The adult penis does NOT grow with higher levels of testosterone.

[206crazy]

it just seems like it though...that even before they used this stuff for sexual enhancement...that it was overall better for your health anyways...but who knows.. and whos gonna test it?!?

[SLowlybutsurely]

Jason12, did you check out the link I put up at on the top? I mean I was interested in Long Jack before I even found out about this extra possible "benefit." I've been weight lifting for the past year+, seen good gains, but there are certain parts of my body (most specifically my biceps, shoulders, and chest) which I would like to get bigger, but am having serious trouble with.

But it seems the levels that one would have to take in order to get the extra "benefits" are very high. I'm not sure...doh!

[jason12]

No i didnt read the link but if your into natural test boosters by all means take them. I was taking a product recently called fenotest which was very nice. I will do some research on longjack and get back to you with what I find.

[jason12]

Found this interesting link http://www.tongkatali.org/extractprocedure.htm
alotof stuff on that site

[MagnumXL]

I just wouldn't fuck with testosterone levels period, natural or not. Unless you have some kind of a disorder, I'm pretty certain they're where they are for a reason.
:idea: :idea: :idea:

Word.

[SLowlybutsurely]

So, for someone who is 80 kg, or 177 lbs, if you'd want to take 16 grams of Long Jack at a 1:50 ratio, and 4 grams at 1:100 ratio, am I to assume you'd want to take 2 grams at a 1:200 ratio. Is that correct?

For a three month period, from that site that you linked, it would cost a 80 kg, 177 lb man, about $400-$450?!

Good god that's expensive...

Edit: Do 3 other people want to split a 780 gram (at 1:200) shipment? :)

[bassman]

It is a fact that testosterone levels in males decline at a pretty good rate after the age of 35 and estrogen levels increase. You guys at yer ages of 18-19 yer testosterone levels are so high you dont need to suppliment anything. The herb in question may boost testosterone levels in older men but for you youngins its not gonna boost much if anything at all cause your testosterone levels are at max production right now.

[jason12]

testosterone peaks different for everyone but usually its late teens. Usually at about 25 is when testosterone starts to decline. I do agree with the 18 and 19 year old thing though but you can have an 18 year old with low test and then what. Honestly the worst thing that can happen is it can hurt your wallet and maybe give you some acne. If you are going to take it get your levels of testosterone checked before and after you take it. Im very interested to see the results.

[SLowlybutsurely]

Well, when I get back onto health insurance (yah, I live dangerously) I'll give it a go and let everyone know how it went...assuming I'm still disatisfied with my bi's, delts, pecs, and most importantly, my dick. :P

[jason12]

honestly getting your levels checked is the best thing to do because it will let you know what you have to work from or what you have to do. I know peolpe who had very low test and doctors said it was fine and he had to go to a few doctors before he got hormone replacement which insurance covered. When you do get your levels checked I would post them on a bodybuilding board or a steroid board because they usually will explain everything for you and tell you how normal your test levels are. Doctors will say its a little low but nothing bad when you have test levels of a 12 year old girl. If you want to try some things out that are decently cheap you can try tribulus and/or zma. If your going to buy zma know its just Zinc Magnesium and Vitamin B6 so dont buy over hyped products like Z-MASS they all do the same thing. It also helps you sleep better but alot ofpeople say it gives them very weird vivid dreams.