frankybabys' christmas 06 pressy!

[frankybaby]

This is my diary. Ive started it to show my gains and as a little experiment to see if i can get to that legendary size of 8x6 by crimbo.
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My goals are as follows:
Short term (christmas):

BPEL: 8"
EG: 6"

Long term:

BPEL: 9"
NBPEL: 8"
EG: 6.5-7"
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My starting stats were as follows (7/9/06):

BPEL: 7.375"
NBPEL:6.75"
MSEG: 5.375"

BPFL: ~4"
FG: ~4"

After my first month of sucessful PE'ing here are my current stats (7/10/06):

BPEL: 7.75"
NBPEL: 7"
EG: 5.5"

BPFL: ~4.5"
FG: ~4"

After my second month of dodgy PE'ing (7/11/06):

BPEL: 7.5"
NBPEL: 7"
EG: 5.75"

flacid's about the same
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Well, i've had some strange size changes after my second month. I think i have gained in both legnth and girth, however my laziness in not doing my PE for the last week or two had meant my short-term legnth gains have gone. Still though, the gith is comin my way! :P

Here is my routine:

5-10 minute warmup (i use my laptop, its hot enough to burn if i dont cover my skin)
10 sets of 5-7 second stretched in each direction
10 sets of 30 second downward stretches
20 10 second heavy holds (80% erect with 3/4 kegals)
10 sets of 20-30 second circular stretches (out then around)
half an hour of edging with erect push downs
5+ minute warm down

[BigBadBear]

You'd be lucky to make your girth target for Christmas as most people find it harder to gain than length, but since you've already made some progress on it and good progress on your length it might still happen for you. Not that it really matters whether you make your goal or not, a bigger penis is a bigger penis. :P

Good luck! :cool

[frankybaby]

ill deffinately need some girth bustin' excercises if i hope to get to 6" by christmas. im scared to do them at the moment though for the fear of injury, but hopefully i'll whach it up a half inch in the next 2 months :? (though ill deffinatly be happy with any gains, especially if they keep going up the rate they are now).

[frankybaby]

well, i got my first bruise thanks to those heavy holds last night. I really went for it to see if i could take it and decided i should not be overly forceful yet. Though I'll deffinately continue to do them as the gains are coming pretty fast

[BigBadBear]

Hmmm, having read over your routine properly it appears you don't do any sort of jelqs, is that true? Holds are great and all, but wet jelqs are the core of a PE routine and if you're not doing them then you're robbing yourself of possible gains. I'd cut out your 'lighter' holds (light holds rather defeat the point of holds anyway) and add in some wet jelqs. Stretches are a vital part of a routine, but they don't get the blood flowing at all and jumping straight from stretches to holds could explain the red spot you got. Your stretching technique is a little unorthodox too, but if it feels ok to you then you could stick with it.

[frankybaby]

I know it sounds daft but i just cant stand doing jelqs. And dont misinterperate the light holds, they do push beyond my max girth when i squeeze the blood out of the head. As for bloodflow i make sure i slap it against my leg and do helishakes between each hold. I'm not what you mean when you say my stretch routines unorthidox but it works!

[BigBadBear]

As long as it's working and you're making gains then don't change your stretching, but most people tend to the do the traditional five way stretch (as far as I'm aware), which compared to yours would be only stretching each way once with each hand but for a longer time (probably somewhere between 20 and 40 seconds). Anyway, if it ain't broke don't fix it. :cool

Again with the no jelqing, as long as it's working it's fine but jelqs are good because they're less static than holds as you're moving your grip up the shaft rather then just keep it in the same spot. Just something to think about in case you stop making gains later on.

[Master Long]

In static stretching, you're not getting anything out of it unless you stretch for thirty seconds or more. Dat's a fact, Jack.

[frankybaby]

where'd you source that fact from?

[JaredK]

do you think the ligs can be too stretched out in relation to the penis? I used to the 5 point stretches, the v-stretch, and the a-stretch for 3 mins each.....
My philsophy now is to stretch very little (but warm-up/warm-down for 15 mins each) to preserve the tension in the glands when i do my dry jelqs and clamps.

[frankybaby]

well i decided to get over my hatred of jelqing today and had a great workout!

i decided to give this routine a go after seeing that 11 inchers (arkhamgoul) gains:

Warm up (usual with laptop)
10 sets of 20 second 5way stretches (instead of 5 second stretches)
10 minutes of dry jelqing
5 30 second heavy holds
warm down

im going to give this routine a go for a month or two and see if it works as well for me as it did arkhamgoul. I'll also be doing 20 minutes of wet jelqs when i get up (if i get up early enough :?).

[Axlerod]

Don't like the sound of "Heavy Holds". Go easy on them. You're still fairly new aren't you? Most would say that you shouldn't really do ANY holds until after a good 3 months or so, let alone HEAVY ones.

Axle says don't break your dick!

[frankybaby]

i make sure not to break me dick when i do them. but you are right, i am pretty new and i might be being stupid, but im confident that i can take them.
I still might change them though so theyre not so damn expandin, until ive been doing them for another month or 2.

[K-man]

Axle says don't break your dick!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

He's right though, you should take care. I notice that you are doing some holds at 50%. I would suggest that they will do very little given that the idea of a hold is to push your capacity beyond 100% (i.e. forcibly expanding the chambers). If you are going to carry on with the holds then you should keep them at 10 seconds, increasing the duration ONLY WHEN your body feels comfortable. I know we keep going on about taking it steady and it might become a bit boring to hear it time and time again but I'd much rather keep repeating this information than have to listen to stories about injuries. Keep the faith :D :mrgreen :D

[Caveman]

good luck man but like everyone else said don't go to hard on the holds. Im in about my 2nd month and i can only do about 3 holds for max 10 seconds before im spent.

[Axlerod]

Try to get away from the analogy of the penis being like a muscle. With your muscles you can tell when they're getting tired. It's not really like that with your cock.

Injuries that I've read about with holds usually come sort of out of the blue. Like going from feeling fine to cock damage, without having a period of feeling like you're pushing it inbetween.

This is why it is better to be on the cautious side. You have the rest of your life to PE, there is no rush. If you cause yourself an injury there is a very good chance that you'll give this up. Better to be cautious, careful, and gradually gain safe length.

[frankybaby]

rito then ill change my routine for the better before i break my dick. I do like to do things my own way, but i can see you think its still to serious for me so ill just go on to a stretch and jelq routine for now. :(

thanks for the concern guys!

[Axlerod]

Are you not doing any wet jelqs? Just focus on getting the technique for wet and dry jelqs perfect for another month or so, then you'll be ready to start with the holds.

[frankybaby]

ye when i get up in the morning (so now... (late nights at work))

I already know how to do them, i done them when i started (and kept getting a hard on every 5 or 10 jelqs... no wonder i hated them so much)

[Axlerod]

That's kinda what I mean Franky. Learning to maintain the best errection level is part of nailng the perfect technique.

Just kinda saying that knowing how an exercise is done and having perfect, or at least very good, technique are two different things.

[frankybaby]

ye like i said ive nailed them now. it was just the first couple of weeks i was getting and losing my hard on constantly. doesnt bother me now though

[frankybaby]

ive decided to change my routine.

Now that i'm able to do jelqs without cringing in discomfort, heres my new routine:

sunday - wednesday nights:

10 minute warm-up (laptop)
10 30 second A-stretches
10 30 second V-stretches
20 minutes of wet jelqs
warm-down by edging or 5-10 minutes of my laptop

thursday - saturday mornings:

10 minute warmup
10 minutes of dry jelqs
5-10 minute laptop warmdown

Ive noticed a lot of people have gained on routines that have less or no rest days, so im going to give it a go. I'll also be refraining myself from cumming more than once a week. Hopefully this should be a more reasonable routine with my new job at a night club.

[Axlerod]

Interesting looking routine. Let us know how you get on, and good luck!

[K-man]

Very interesting!!

You've been doing this, what, a month??? How are you going to know when a routine is working for you if you keep changing so often? Also, I would be wary of doing a full 7 days on without any rest time. Hope it works out for you man but I dont think you are allowing for healing with this routine.:neut:

[frankybaby]

chances are ill miss friday with this routine as i finish late on a thurday, im up early on friday and i finish late on friday as well (so friday should act as an unintentional rest day). Im planning to test the no rest day theory though.

I know i change my routine a lot, but it seems to work. (except for the last month, where a new job and a change in routine with less stretches has literally meant a .5" loss in legnth (no girth though thankfully, which is my main concern). I'll keep you posted with any gains.

[Master Long]

.5"??? Where were you before? More importantly, where are you now? That's a lot to lose.

[frankybaby]

i was at 8 and i shot down to 7.5 in a couple of weeks.

[Axlerod]

That does seem like a lot to lose. Hopefully you'll get it back quickly too though. Remember this loss when you ever feel like skipping a few sessions!

[Jilted Mind]

I lost .4 of an inch once so I know how it feels, but I found that I got the length back very quickly (and added a little bit) so hopefully that works out for you too.

[frankybaby]

fuck this new routine, it's shit!

I'm going back to my old one of stretches and holds

[frankybaby]

well my second month is over and ive seen both losses and gains. Thanks to a girth bustin routine up until i got lazy, my girth is now 5.75, a .25" increase.
However, because of my laziness, and experimentation with crap routines, my legnth has sfrunk back down to 7.5, a .25" DEcrease.

Funly enough i have measured it as high as 8.25 after about 6 weeks, but I let it slip away. So im gonna take this as a boot up the back side and get back to yankin' me pipework.