Music~sound, frequencies~ do they inherently have a given effect on ones mind?

[soserious]

I have wondered this for some time.
That is, will a piece of music that is rousing be rousing in the minds of all? Furthermore will it be rousing in the minds of those from the past and the future?
Thus is the language of music universal? I say music because song and words are a different subject. Though the sound of voices as sounds of frequencies, pitch and volume certainly is universal. An angry raised voice is universally recognisable in anyones language, a playful laugh and cry of pain likewise.
Music though? What are your thoughts?

[Thought Pro]

Music does indeed have an impact on the brain.

Classical music generally has a positive affect (effect?) on the brain, particularly if you wish to absorb information.

[ownd]

when i was into lucid dreaming i woudl go to sleep with crazy ass sounds that would supposedly invoke dreaming, or go to sleep to lectures about lucid dreaming and brain wave programs and stuff, sometimes it worked sometiems it didnt.

[meatman]

Artee said:
I bet people who like classical but have no like for, say, speed metal, will find the latter very irritating regardless if those who like speed metal
Funny, I'm no huge fan of classical, but I love metal, yet, I would say classical and metal are very similar, in particular metal bands that have complex structure, such as Megadeth.
On a side note:
http://www.hermes-press.com/number_frequency.htm
Scroll down, see those patterns, that's oil of turpentine vibrating!

[Master Long]

Music is the best.
http://courses.wcupa.edu/frichmon/mue332/spring2002/eriknelson/Frankzappa.jpg

http://www.wilsontai.com/racingmix/sept05/racingmix_frank_zappa_01.jpg

'Nuff said.

[K-man]

The perception of music, as with so many things, is very much a subjective thing. What I mean in saying this is that people experience music in different ways. Personally I enjoy a very wide range of types of music and I look for songs that touch me on an emotional level. The structure of the song has to fit with the lyrical content, or it has to invoke some kind of feeling. Many of my friends have an entirely different outlook and are only concerned with melody or beats, thus having no interest at all in lyrics (assuming there are any).

Back to the original question of whether a piece of 'rousing' music would be the same in the minds of all, again I would have that this is subjective as one persons idea of rousing may be anothers dreary. Much would depend upon cultural background as that would form the basis of ones perception, no?

[soserious]

Yes yes those are givens - but- on some fundamental level is there a language to sounds manifested as "music"? One of the oldest forms of music right across races and civilisations is the drumbeat. Lets look at the fundamentals- loudness, sound type (thump, tinkle, crash ect), tempo.
Say we took a drum and beat it slow- it would be a sound, a sound which the human brain would organise in the distance between beats, if the spaces are erratic it is unharmonic and jarring to the brain, if it is evenly timed it can become entrancing no?
Then we use the drum and the beat and we speed it up.. I would venture a guess that most humans would experience an increase in heart rate and possibly adrenaline, thus the mind would be elliciting a sympathetic response to the "music" and universally so.

[K-man]

I tend to agree as a general statement, but that is based soley on the way that I respond to music (in whatever form).

The question that arises from this to my mind, is this theory applicable to all ages given that emotional responses are generally different in children. That is, young children have not learnt fear or love and as such would not be able to associate the type of sound with any particular emotion.

[meatman]

SS sayeth so:
Then we use the drum and the beat and we speed it up.. I would venture a guess that most humans would experience an increase in heart rate and possibly adrenaline, thus the mind would be elliciting a sympathetic response to the "music" and universally so. Heavy metal music does that for me, but, not just limited to metal.
If I listen to a song I particularly like, I can feel my hair raising, which, of course is related probably to adrenaline, heart rate, and all that jazz.
Here:
have some http://www.robhalford.com
and turn it up!

[K-man]

Not really my cup of tea these days but I do relate to the intricacies of this type of music. I dabbled a little in this genre when I was a teeneager (suprise!:roll: ) and was always impressed at the command these people have over their instruments.

[Spike]

I like music with a bit of a hypnotic theme to it.

www.hypnotune.com (http://www.ee.oulu.fi/~ulpe/misc/swf/badger.swf)

[soserious]

It messed with my mind.. wtf.. www...t.....f..was...tthh..at... :shock: :lol: :x

[Valk]

I dont think Ss is interesting in your music preferences.:lol:


Then we use the drum and the beat and we speed it up.. I would venture a guess that most humans would experience an increase in heart rate and possibly adrenaline, thus the mind would be elliciting a sympathetic response to the "music" and universally so.

I dont think such a thing would evoke any of those states anymore.
Basicly, music lost its magic long ago. Music is bombarding us almost every minute of the day and I think we've become desensitized by it. It's decaying to background music, to mere hollow entertainment.
Some (like me) franticly try to search for new music to keep that sense of amazement.

[Valk]

I like music with a bit of a hypnotic theme to it.

www.hypnotune.com (http://www.ee.oulu.fi/~ulpe/misc/swf/badger.swf)

Aahhh, the Amanita muscaria.:P

[Spike]

Some (like me) franticly try to search for new music to keep that sense of amazement.

I've just got some Andes/Inca music. :mrgreen

[Valk]

How's it called? Songs of the mountains?

[Spike]

I had to borrow the CD, couldn't find it online, even at Amazon!

"Feelings" and something like Ethnos Americano. Basically a various artists type thing.

[Valk]

Is it good?

[Spike]

I'll upload the best track for you. :D

[Valk]

Now thats what I call a friendly gesture.:D

[meatman]

I like music with a bit of a hypnotic theme to it.

www.hypnotune.com (http://www.ee.oulu.fi/%7Eulpe/misc/swf/badger.swf) An old CC favourite!
I really like the ending!

[ColdShroom]

Yeah.. the ending is what it's all about..

Whicked tune.

[K-man]

I like music with a bit of a hypnotic theme to it.

www.hypnotune.com (http://www.hypnotune.com)

Ah, badgerbadgerbadger.com :lol: :lol:

Been a while, still makes me chuckle.

[K-man]

/\:mrgreen :mrgreen :mrgreen