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.clunk
9th March 2006, 05:07 AM
Hi, I was on the old cheeky cherry forums before they were deleted, but decided to sign up again. heres my first post!
this is a situation I'm in right now, meaning It's quite serious for me and I'd appreciate serious responses!
sorry about the long read, i just have alot on my mind and need to write it down, maybe get some feedback. I don't have any friends where I'm living who I can talk to about this, as it's a new place to me.

Okay, so the scenario is like this:

My girlfriend and I were together for 9 months before mutually deciding that we would "take a break" and see how things were in a month or two, basically re-evaluate our relationship. We agreed that we would see how we felt once we were apart, how much we missed each other and how much we actually do love each other. I moved out of the place we shared, and moved to a different town for work reasons, which we both agreed would be "good" for getting things sorted out. Since moving over 2 months ago, we keep in touch every few days and are still very close as friends, and will see about our relationship when we see each other, but I'm moving back in a few weeks to see where things are going to go with her, as well as for my own interests since I'm not happy where I'm living right now. So far so good, right?!?

So, heres the stick in the spokes so to speak:

Around a week before I moved away and we seperated I was gone for a few days visiting family. We had already decided to take a break, but were still sleeping in the same bed, seeing each other every day etc. Over those few days that I was gone, she was at a friends house and ended up fooling around with her friend's roomate, behind my back. She didn't sleep with him, but kissed him a few times then called it quits. I completely believe her when she says there wasn't any feeling up or anything, it was just a few kisses and that was it. Completely above the belt, above the shoulders even. She was really drunk, but he wasn't so drunk apperantly.
At the time this happened, we had already decided to take a break, but to still keep things open between us and see how things worked out when we saw each other in a few months. I was still in the picture, I was just away for a few days though. When I got back we were still sleeping in the same bed, but I could tell something was really bothering her, but wasn't sure if it was just because I was moving or what.

Heres her explanation why it happened: She said it just "kind of happened". She was drunk and it just happened. For starters, I know she wasn't looking to get laid because she was on the rag at this time (I remember specefically - ugh). She also said in less direct words that she wanted to see if she could do it and if she would feel guilty or not. She has felt fucking horrible ever since to say the least.

Basically, since I moved I knew that something has been really bothering her and today over the phone, she called me in tears and came clean and told me all this. Her life has been REALLY falling apart due to her guilty conscience, and I know that when she says these things she's honest. She hasn't been sleeping well, hasn't been going to school, has been depressed and I am certain this is the reason: her guilt. I could feel a huge burden off her shoulders after we talked about it.


Now, I'm already moving back in a few weeks and before she told me all this we agreed to start out as friends again and take things slowly in our relationship, just have a good time for a while. When we talked about what happened, I told her I forgave her and still wanted to try to make things work between us. I'm willing to forgive and forget, but I need time..

Basically I look at it like this: It was only a few kisses--she didn't throw her leg over the guy and I know that for a fact, like I said she was on the rag. She has felt completely like shit ever since, and numerous times she hinted at wanting to tell me but couldn't do it, finally she did and she cried and cried and apologised like crazy. She felt guilty from day one and wishes she never did it.
Am I crazy for forgiving her in this scenario? This is a girl who means alot to me, and who I mean alot to. It's the first time in years that I have "fallen in love", and before the day we met I wasn't looking at meeting a single other person in the world. She is what I would call my "soulmate" and she calls me the same, and it's the truth.

Can I forgive her and someday share a great relatoinship again or is it a waste of time?

Caveman
9th March 2006, 06:05 AM
Hmmmm realtionship issues are always touchy but ill give it a go. :neut:

This girl had ample opportuniy while u were gone to leave, go out and get wiht someone else but she didn't. She told u something nine months after it happened becuase of her guilty conciencse, and she continud communication with you for that long.

I think she is totally sincere and you should take her back.

.clunk
9th March 2006, 06:18 AM
Hmmmm realtionship issues are always touchy but ill give it a go. :neut:

This girl had ample opportuniy while u were gone to leave, go out and get wiht someone else but she didn't. She told u something nine months after it happened becuase of her guilty conciencse, and she continud communication with you for that long.

I think she is totally sincere and you should take her back.
It's been around 2 months since I left actually, and probably 2.5 months since it happened.
I KNOW I mean alot to her, and I know that even a second after it happened she could hardly live with herself from the guilt. She knows that she's found an amazing guy and I know that she is amazing to me. I'll just have to see how things go when I move back with her, but I think I'd be throwing away somethig great by not forgiving her. After all, I need to realise that what she did wasn't done to hurt me and she didn't have any feelings for the guy, it just happened. Shit happens, and I think it'll be best to talk abou it a little more when I'm up there, person to person rather then over the phone. Or should I get it out of the way now, even though it's over the phone?

While I wish it didn't happen, maybe I can look at it as a way to justify our love? meaning if she has had such a hard time living with herself since it happened, maybe it's a sign to her just how much I mean to her. Maybe it's just a hurdle...

Codzilla
9th March 2006, 11:16 AM
Hmmm if my girl went and did that behind my back but then told me about it afterwards, i would go fuckin mad. But i would know she hadnt have done it out of spite, jus a stupid drunken endeavour we all have em. It would take me a little bit to get over the nager, but i would be rite back with her after that. Anything beyond a stupid kiss at a club tho, and i mean absolutely anything more than that would mean game over. You're doing the right thing buddy. Take her back, you two blatantly want and love eachother so thers no question in what u gota do. :cool

Valk
9th March 2006, 05:11 PM
*Yelling in Ross' voice:

WE WERE ON A BREAK!!!!

What were the terms of this 'break'? IMO you were on a break, so you both were free to do anything you wanted.

trugain
9th March 2006, 09:03 PM
*Yelling in Ross' voice:

WE WERE ON A BREAK!!!!

What were the terms of this 'break'? IMO you were on a break, so you both were free to do anything you wanted.


Exactly! Thats why I will not get a GF.

What was the reason you guys decided it was time for a breaK? I mean, did you get tired of each other?

.clunk
9th March 2006, 10:01 PM
the break wasn't so much brought upon by our relationship, more or less because I needed to move to persue work, and she was finishing school in the area. I couldn't make it work by staying, and she couldn't make it work by leaving school and moving with me so we decided to take a break..not really brough on by anything sour in our relationship, but we thought that if things didn't work out then it wasn't meant to be, and if they did work out then it was meant to be.

If this cheating happened during our break, it wouldn't be a problem for me...we were on a break, big deal right? The reason it's difficult is because it happened around 5 days before I left. We had already decided to take the break but we were still "together" so to speak. At that time we were still making the decision if we would go through with the break or not, so it was all up in the air. Like I said for arguments sake we both considered ourselves "together" at the point it happened, so...
Anyways, I returned, she felt horrible and more or less forced me to leave because she couldn't live with the guilt of looking at me every day knowing what she did hurt me.

Clockers
9th March 2006, 10:02 PM
Oh' what the hell; give her another --> Go <-- I would.

But hey thats just me..:cool

trugain
9th March 2006, 11:16 PM
If its really love, then it will happen. Just let her know that you are not having it, man up.. :twisted:

Tell her to make it up to you.

1BigDong
10th March 2006, 01:15 AM
You were on a "Break" right and you and she are not engaged or married right? So I say take her back! If you had gotten lucky with someone would you want her to forgive you and take you back? However, if it happens again during the time you are "together" then you might want to rethink things. (My 2 cents)

Master Long
10th March 2006, 01:58 AM
She could've gone all the way. She didn't. I'd call that a pretty good indicator that you should stay with her if you feel for her.

Officespace2801
10th March 2006, 02:32 AM
My theory:

Either...

A) your girlfriend is nuts for feeling guilty over a couple of kisses, especially after you told her you don't care

OR

B) she isn't telling you everything.

I lean towards B.

But if for some reason I'm wrong (it'd be the first time since 1991), then I don't see the problem in taking her back. But then again, I consider a girl doing that to be nuts...so I wouldnt.

.clunk
10th March 2006, 06:17 AM
My theory:

Either...

A) your girlfriend is nuts for feeling guilty over a couple of kisses, especially after you told her you don't care

OR

B) she isn't telling you everything.

I lean towards B.



Something I'll add to this: It was more than a couple kisses, it was kissing and making out. Fully clothed, but I don't know under what circumstances..it wasn't just a peck on the cheek anyways.

We talked earlier today, and she told me that at the time she was confused, she thought that things were over between us and there was attraction between her and this guy so she moved. They kissed briefly and then she ended it because she didn't want to, then later on in the night after alot more drinks, they kissed again and made out. I don't know who insinuated it the second time, and I don't know who ended it the second time and I don't know how long it lasted. The bottom line is that it happened, and wether she kissed him once or made out with him is kind of irrevelent, it's wether or not I should take her back.


As to part a: I told her I don't care that much and she doesn't feel as guilty any more. She still feels bad, but it's a little easier on her knowing that it isn't the end of the world.

to part b: I do believe her when she said what she said, I don't believe there was anything else going on. She thought it would be the end of our friendship and the end of our relationship no matter what, and I made sure to get all the details out of her before I told her how I felt about what heppened and about whether I forgive her or not.

1BigDong
10th March 2006, 02:09 PM
Even though I said take her back remember this:
Compaired to women, Men are BAD Lliars!
We may think as men we can do and say what we want but (again) compaired to women we are just bad liars and women can tell.
The reverse is also true women will tell you want you want to hear and us "Dumb men" will believe it, because women (as a whole) are very good liars! Now dont take me wrong I am not saying that she is, I am here and you are there and I do not know everything that has gone on. But make sure you are thinking with the big head and not your little head.

coolies
10th March 2006, 05:42 PM
My theory:

Either...

A) your girlfriend is nuts for feeling guilty over a couple of kisses, especially after you told her you don't care

OR

B) she isn't telling you everything.

I lean towards B.

But if for some reason I'm wrong (it'd be the first time since 1991), then I don't see the problem in taking her back. But then again, I consider a girl doing that to be nuts...so I wouldnt.

I would agree.

wern
14th March 2006, 01:48 AM
The way I see it is that if she feels guilty, she deserves to.

She wants you back based on what you've written.

If it was me I would tell her she deserved to feel guilty, and if she wants me back now, she will have to work extra hard to win back my trust. Then I'd move back and hook up with her. Then while we were together I would look for a new GF and wouldn't mind cheating on her while I am on the hunt. Then again, I am a jerk when it comes to women, but pussy is pussy. Oh but you love her... ahhem. Love is so 20th century. :lol:

Netgear
14th March 2006, 07:49 AM
What i say it that it was just a kiss. Ive been with my gf 23 months today and i went behind her back the first month of our relationship. I told her and she went absolutly off the fucking handle at me. But she took me back for honest and we have been fine ever since. I'd say if she just kissed they guy and she was drunk take her back , she is clearly sorry for what she has donw, i dont think its likely she is putting it all back on just to get a shag out of you or something.

Take her back mate.