Ownds Road To Xl

[ownd]

Measurments (BP)-
5.0 X 4. Something ( Starting Measurement )
5.2 X 4.5
5.4 X 4.5
5.5 X 4.7
5.6 X 4.8
5.75 X 5.0 :shock:
5.75 X 5.3
5.93 X 5.5 (Aug 31, 2004)
5.75 X 5.3 (Mar 23. 2005)
5.93 X 5.2 (Apr 21, 2005)
6.00 X 5.2 (May 21, 2005)
6.00 X 5.2 (July 02, 2005)
6.00 X 5.2 (July 30, 2005)
6.25 X 5.0 (Jan 30, 2006)
6.25 X 5.0 (Feb 15, 2006)
6.375 X 5.0 (March 22, 2006)
6.375 X 5.1 (May 1, 2006)
6.1 X 5.5 (June 28, 2007)
6.2 X 5.5 (Sep 19, 2007
6.00 X 5.25 (Sep 17, 2008)
6.2 x 5.25 (10-2-2008) (barely hitting the .2 mark so mabie a bit shy)
6.25 x 5.25 ( 10-24-2008)
6.25 x 5.125 ( 12-1-2008) Not really a loss just more accurate girth measurement or loss of erection.

[Beefeater]

Nice girth gains mate, keep us posted and good luck. :)

[BigBadBear]

Excellent girth gains! What does your routine look like?

Good luck with starting up again, we'll try and help you stay motivated! :)

[JB22]

if you've taken some time off, maybe you'll gain like a newbie again :D

[Miccius]

wow man, that's really good progress you've made there.

[ownd]

Just measured because i was curious about where i was and if i lost some, turns out i did lose some gains but its ok im sure they will come back quite easily.
5.75 X 5.31
Its been almost 7 months since last measure and a commited routine so thats not a dramitc loss. Here we Go! i will keep it updated.

[ownd]

The routine i think ill be using will be a rather simple one because my dick is not used PE right now so i have a feeling i might gain like a newbie. So im going to do Less is More. What im thinking is
Shower Warm Up
15 Sec Stretches X2 Each Direction
20 Sec Helis
200 Jelqs (Helis for 15 sec at Every 50)
20 Sec Helis
Warm Down Shower

Also i do a few holds through out the day and of coarse the infamous kegals.

[Clockers]

Good luck there ownd.. :wink:

[ownd]

Started my routine yesterday and just did helis with 100 jelqs and i got redspots so my dick is very sensative so i dont think it will take much to cause it to gain. I feel like im a newb lol.

[wern]

massive girth gains. what do you believe contributed to the girth gains??

[Shane_Bos]

I like the way you've posted your updates, i may do that too, cheers.

[ownd]

Hmm not sure mabie just some people gain more in girth, but if i have to say something id say the quality of my wet jelqs? i do them on everyone so i can feel the blood sitting in there and i hold the blood there for about a second then start over. So its like a jelq mini hold. Mabie that did something.I lost .2 in girth in 8 months of no PE, im sure it will come back soon

[wern]

Hmm not sure mabie just some people gain more in girth, but if i have to say something id say the quality of my wet jelqs? i do them on everyone so i can feel the blood sitting in there and i hold the blood there for about a second then start over. So its like a jelq mini hold. Mabie that did something.I lost .2 in girth in 8 months of no PE, im sure it will come back soon

nice approach. did you ever do proper holds?

[ownd]

No not really mabie a few here and there but barely any

[wern]

No not really mabie a few here and there but barely any

great so its all down to technique. I think we need to focus more on technique of the fundamental exercises rather than on finding new exercises.

[Spider]

I agree it's definitely down to the quality of the exercises as opposed to the quantity - but I think it's also important to find exercises that you enjoy and actually like doing - if you're having fun then that's half the battle! :lol:

[bubbahotep]

i do the wet jelqs with kegel holds too ( is that what you were talking about Ownds?) i also do dry jelqs that way, but with my other hand i do a straight stretch. it feels like it promotes expansion of the tissue. i don't know if this is a new exercise or not, to me it just feels like the a more effective way to jelq.

[ownd]

Jus an update im actually doing good on my PE for once usually doin MWF and some days in between, the only thing i want to change is that im PEing to the piont of redspots to much and last night i got a rather large one but is healing. Hopefully ill get some good results in a bit. Pce guys. :D :lol: Also gotta up the stretches because i have been relying souly on wet jelqs so if i gain this month it can be attributed to manily wet jelqs.

[Clockers]

Good keep us Updated!

I never tried it but wonder if you would gain just on W/J's :cool

[OneMoreRep]

Girth gains are sick curious what do you figure is your % erection while performing your routine?

[ownd]

i get an erection at about 90 percent and then jelq till it goes to around 50 then i try to get it back to 90 so on average id say around 70 ish. But i always work it from hard to softer as you can see.

[wern]

Same with me. i get worried about it at 90 though, i go really light with the jlqs at 80+

[ownd]

UPDATE-

Alright some weird measurements i was actually not expecting and gains at all, what i think what happened was my penis just went back to where i left off kind of. So i gained about .2 in length which is good i guess but wtf in girth i lost more i dont know whats happening there. My routine was mainly wet jelqs 200, helis, usually mwf. very little stretches.
At
5.93 X 5. 18

[wern]

When you stretch too much it can happen. The density of the penis doesn't change, only she shape changes. If you get what I mean.

[ownd]

i barely did stretches though

[wern]

Maybe you should kegel more. It may be that the girth was smaller because you didn't have it pumped enough

[ownd]

Im starting the routine again Monday i slacked off today so ill start up again mon , hopefully ill get back my girth.

[ownd]

Just measured BP im basicly at 6 bp if not 6 then like 5.9 lol. I was to lazy to measure girth but i think its around the same. Next goal is 6.5 ive actually been pretty dedicated this time been doin M-W-F almost not missin to many dayz. Only thing now is i gotta up the time of pe ive been doin
warm up shower
helis
200 wet jelqs
helis
minor strething like 30 secs a day.
Now to break the 6 inch mark i think its gonna take more so ima move up slowly
Warm Up
Helis
15 sec stretches each direction 2 times
250 Wet jelqs
helis
also on off days im goin to stretch.
Time to break the 6 inch mark and finally start to LEAVE THE AVERAGE WOrld lol. So ive gone from below average at 5 to average. Im happy bout it but its time to get big now not average so first goal is 6.5 LeTSS GOOOO

[Clockers]

Good luck on breaking the 6" mark ownd.. :wink:

[ownd]

Ok finally got the courage to post pics of my Penis lol. Here they are. o manl ol, im 6 in BP here jus took them today.

http://www.imagehosting.us/imagehosting/showimg.jpg/?id=472284

http://www.imagehosting.us/imagehosting/showimg.jpg/?id=472280

http://www.imagehosting.us/imagehosting/showimg.jpg/?id=472285

[MagnumXL]

nice girth. u will notice a huge change within a few months. good luck.

[ownd]

Thanks i finally got the motivation to get where i want so im eagered to start gainin more.

[BIGOKE]

Great progress OWND. You are showing us that consistency pays. Keep it up and good luck for your next goal :D :D

[Clockers]

Your pics' look good there ownd.

[wern]

thats a fat penis. can I trade you some length for girth?

[ownd]

haha wern i would if i could, to me my dick feels skinny i never feel like its big in girth i guess my penis seems a lot smaller then it is even though its pretty small for now lol.

[ownd]

Shit i havent pe'd in 2 weeks due to preparation for a big grappling tournament called NAGA just havent had the time and ive been cutting weight so im quite tired. Its june 11 so monday ill start. Pce

[ownd]

Well i didnt PE this month cuz i got sick a lot and just busy fukkk, w/e im havin a good masturbation marathon right now to get it outta my system so i can focus on PE good starting monday lol. Same measurements as last time. A tad under 6 or 6 i dnno.

[Bobo]

Good luck... nice gains btw. :cool

[ownd]

Im just curious as to how much i can gain in a 2 week period. So i am going to do a m-f routine for 2 weeks not missing one work out and being very commited. Basicly a picture perfect routin for me that is. Just curious. I havent been pe'ing that much so this will be a new start. I want to see if i can get .25 of an inch. Lets see.

[BIGOKE]

Good luck on your quest Ownd. :P

[Bobo]

Im just curious as to how much i can gain in a 2 week period.
Impossible to answer such question, too many variables. 0,25" would be excellent gains, and more than that almost impossible. You may get that 0,25" if You haven't been PE'ing for a while, but it isn't permanent yet, just the tissue "giving up" on the strain. The only way to know is by measuring... don't get too disappointed if You see no gains yet because that's much more likely than the amazing 0,25" gain. Good luck, Sir!

[zwmusic]

Good luck ownd. That's actually the right spirit, it may encourage you to try different techniques.

You've made good progress though, just keep it up.

[ownd]

hmm impossible, i dnno but if i do gain something i think it will be because i havent pe'd consistently in a long time so it will be like quick gains i dnno we will see.

[MagnumXL]

Hard to Jiu Jitsu and PE eh ownd? :lol: Stick with it man.

[ownd]

Actually it is i usually finish jiu jitsu around 10 at night so im all tired and shit lol, just exhausted in the shower to do PE but fuck it ima push through it this time lol. :roll: :lol: :D :lol: :D

[ownd]

My 2 week sprint is going good, i jacked off yesterday that is the only discrepancy i can complain about lol. Ive been doing a lot of dry jelqs in the day and at night like 300 jelqs or some stretches. Im being consistent lets see how much i gain. If nothing then ill just turn it into a 1 month sprint lol.

[ownd]

Damit didnt gain shit in the 2 weekss nothing at all o well hopefully ill gain some this month i doubt it since i din gain in 2 weeks already i wont gain in the next.

[Bobo]

If we don't meet in CC before tomorrow, I wish You everything good in life, ownd! And don't give up with PE'ing, with a strong determination You will reach Your goals! :D

[ownd]

Back on the PE bandwagon and it feels good to be back on, im doing MWF, with some light stretching in between days.

[Clockers]

Glad to hear your back in the game again ownd. :cool

[ownd]

i havent measured in a LONG time so i dont know if my gains are from these 2 weeks alone but im happy finally over the 6 inch mark i measured in right now at 6.25 by 5 inches you can check out the first page to compare. i dont know what to say about the loss in girth except mabie i measured wrong a long time ago with the 5.5 measurement but who knows. This is the first gains ive seen in a while so im gonna for SURE remain very consistent. :lol: :D :lol:

[ownd]

just measured afer 2 weeks since last measure and im at exact same stats as 2 weeks ago which is 6.25 by 5 i mean mabie i gained like.05 or something very small but not enough to say for sure. So all in all this month i gained .25 or somewhere around ther ethis month. Im gonna step up the routine now a bit more intense and start doing holds more.

[Caveman]

Nice gains man keep with it!

[ownd]

my dick has been feeling a lil bigger for somereason the last 2 dayz hey you never know mabie ive gained a little bit lol we shall see in 3 weeks or so. gota step up the routines

[ownd]

Im obsessed with PE lol, im gonna be getting a new GF now so its fucking time to step this shit up thank god ive been on for the past month so its not another hey guys im starting im just stepphing htis shit up, im gonna do wargasms routine things AHHHHHHHHHH

[ownd]

just measured after a bit, i dont know but for me its realy hard to see wehre the tiop of my dick ends on the ruler like its a bit deceiving because the tip of the dick slopes down a bit, so it gives a lil more length then you mite think, but i think im rite around 6.375 now last month was 6.25 but its really hard to tell it mite just be me giving myself a bit of extra length there, im not convinced 100 percent sure i gaiend that, my girth staye exactly the same which im shocked because i thought i gained a lot of girht with the warholds and all the holds ive been doing guess, not. im at 5 girth

[Clockers]

Congrats on the gains' ownd.

[ownd]

thx i guess, im not really to happy with them 0 girth gains pissed me off. Gotta push harder this month.

[ownd]

Just measured in a few days ago at exact same stats of 6.3 x 5.1, so im basicly letting it rest, i orderederd my penis strecher wihich should get here in 2 weeks or so, and that is when i will restart to give my penis a good rest before the hard core work outs. Im gonna be doing the Stretcher, along side my holds, war holds, and 300 jelqs MWF, with stretcher every day.

[santana2009]

Wow you started out at 5 inches long just like me, there is hope for me after all!

[ownd]

lol but ur girth soars over mine u bastard lol. Dont you wish we could have started just at 6 inches. Fuk id be over 7 inches by now. Damit lol.

[1BigDong]

Nice gains dude!:)

[zeolite]

Nice gains, keep up the good work :wink:

[ownd]

alright after about a month and half of a break from 2 months on im BACK again so here we go but this time im armed with something DEADLY the coveted PENIS STRETCHER lol. so here is my new routine i jus make it up right now i usualy dont follow it to a T but its the basic idea of what ill be doing

M- Stretcher, Marathon Holds, 250 Jelqs, War Holds, Helis
T-Stretcher Aim for 1 hour a day if not minimum 20 mins, Water bottle stretch 10 mins
W-Stretcher, Marathon Holds, 250 Jelqs, War Holds, Helis
TH-Stretcher Aim for 1 hour a day if not minimum 20 mins, Water bottle stretch 10 mins
F-Stretcher, Marathon Holds, 250 Jelqs, War Holds, Helis

well thats basicly it, ill explain what marathon holds are in general PE:D Wish me luck las time i gained about .25 in a month so lets get back to that AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[ownd]

I feel like a bitch with another Hey im starting again post lol. But anyways

I am starting again haha.

[Rum_Runner]

Git r done. Own it man own it

[Sunship]

dont stop again
thats an order!

[billy1964]

hey ownd, lets see if we can hit 7 in. by september 15th. good luck :wink:

[ownd]

you got it billy we shall aim for 7 then.

[billy1964]

going for it my man.:twisted:

[MagnumXL]

ownd ur such a lazy bastard :lol: seriously tho dude fuckin stick to it and quit wimping out. :cheeky: :cheeky: :cheeky: :cheeky:

[ownd]

just finished 1 month routine


gained .3 inches girth no length


soon starts the 2 month contest i will be concentrating on length more then anything.

[Master Long]

Wish I had your problem. Then again, I don't have much of an opportunity to do anything, considering my lack of privacy. Plus, I'm going to be rooming in a double suite in the fall (12 people, I believe.) Damn. :(

[ownd]

dont know why but last few days ive noticed a huge difference in flacid length, a lot less shrinkage and over all hanging lower and thicker!! good stuff but visually as far as gains i dont believe i have gained squat like usual lol. I will measure in a few days to confirm.

[ownd]

im officially hooked on PE this time again lol. Been more dedicated then ever. Im measuring on the 2nd of august for this month. I will be designing my new routine very soon as well im thinking to do some kind of circuit program but apply it to PE im thinking one day will be a dry day another a wet day so wet jelqs and dry jelqs days but a little more advanced then that. Im excited for next month regardless if i gain this month or not. My flacid is definitely longer.

[billy1964]

you sound like you are motivated this time. glad you seeing some gains in the flacid. that can only mean that its working. don,t stop :wink:

[ownd]

here are some recent pics, that i said i would take and never did. One flacid and 2 erect. My erect right now is 5.5 but i really dont feel like it is that thick thats why i want to see what people think, i mean ive measured a few times girth its just mentally i dont feel that thick, whats everyone think

SOFT

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4450/b4softig1.th.jpg (http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b4softig1.jpg)

ERECT

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1/b41cj4.th.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b41cj4.jpg)

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/187/b42bq5.th.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b42bq5.jpg)

[SusurrusK]

Like I said in the other post... you look 5.5 :cool

[ownd]

lol thanks, i guess i was just so used to myself where i doubted it.

[ownd]

Just measured today, what a sad day indeed it is.

Length if i gained it is so un-noticble on the normal inch scale that i shouldnt even count it. If anything i gained like .1 but im not sure. So im not counting it.

Also now in girth im worried, i dont know now wtf is happening whether i measured wrong, this time or last time but now my girth measurement showed 5.25 so awesome month guys lost .25 in girth and didnt gain length now thats what im fucking talking about. i am discouraged im not going to lie. I thought i had some girth goin for me atleast, ill try to remeasure girth again some other time before i start my new routine.

[ownd]

Also im going to remeasure on saturday because i dont beleive this shit of losing this much girth, or if i get the same measurement again at least ill know officialy what it is. Im going to print out a paper ruler and use that, as i take that to be the most accurate.

[jason12]

Are you sure your erections are 100%? If anything you might just be overtrained. I will put my money on a bad measurement or erection though. Don't let this get you down though. Well it will get you down but down let it effect you that much. Have fun on that date though.

[K-man]

I'd go back to basics mate. That routine you have going on looks like hard work to me. Doesnt give you much healing time.

If you're aiming for length I would leave the holds and other girth work out of the equation for now. You have good girth so gaining length will be a bit more difficult, so focus your attention on just length for now. Try MWF with a stretch and wet jelq routine (circuit 1 in your other thread, maybe reducing the number of jelqs a bit), and then spend an hour or so in the device. That way you're at least giving yourself some chance of recovery before you hit the next session.

It seems like you're trying to do too much all at the same time. Reading around (not just here) it seems that, much of the time, the simplest routines yield the best results. I may be speaking out of turn here as you have been around much longer than me. If that's the case, I apologise. Though my intention is only to help. Good luck mate. :wink:

[ownd]

i appreciate the advice dont worry, i will rework my routine to see what i can change around, that is one thing i was worried about of over training.

[Michael]

I find to get max girth I need to push half way to no-return so try measuring that.

Good luck!

[ownd]

My Goal is by Jan 1st of 2008 To be 7 Inches BP. That is about a .9 inch increase in about 5 months i dont know im a bit skeptical because now that i look at it, its almost a dam inch so we will see what happens.

[billy1964]

keep up with the positive attitude ownd. thats going to be 90% of what gets you to your goal.:wink:

[ownd]

todays work was an A after missing 3 dam workouts o well.

[jason12]

Keep it going ownd. Contest ends in around 2 weeks! Make it count.

[billy1964]

stay focused ownd. :wink:

[billy1964]

hey man, what has happened to you ownd.?are you there?

[ownd]

yea billy you saw the posts in the contest thread with pics, im giving my dick a week rest and them im going to start all over again!!!

[EndorphinMachine]

waasaaaaaaaaaaaaaappp :D Hadn't checked your diary yet! I bet you're gonna have some big gains now that you have all those cool prizes that make me super jealous of you!:lol: Stick to the routine Own! Good luck and rock on!:cool

[ownd]

A+ workout today and updating this with the before after pics.

BEFORE
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8351/pic1fy9.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9687/pic2pv8.jpg



AFTER
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8378/ame1hh4.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6433/ame2uq9.jpg

im sayin that i gained about 2/12th's in length but let me know what you think

[TheGreatDivider1]

Nice gains man!

[Heinz]

Hey Ownd, how long did it take u to get from 4" to 5.5" in girth the first time round?

[ownd]

id say year and a half.

btw monday did 300 wet jelqs and 2 30 sec stretches in each direction.


Today wednesday just finished doing my marathon holds for about 20 minutes of pure holds and edging almost to the point of ejaculation. I feel this will skyrocket my girth. Then later after the gym im going to do my 250-300 jelqs with streches of 2 30 sec each direction. I havent started hanging with the vac i will as soon as i get more comftorble with the device still trying to master it lol.

[ownd]

can you beleive at the end of this year i will have been around CC almost 5 years? holy fuck and im only at 6 inches!! i hope that serves as some motivation to the new guys to not waste time i should have been atleast 8 by now!!. O well im still young lol Back to the routine.

Im trying to reprogram my mind to make PE routine part of my everday life something that has to be done so i never miss a workout no matter what.

[jason12]

Crazzy right? Thats why I always think to myself the day is going to go by anyway why not grow in that time. Everyday I know I am doing my best to get the biggest dick I can have!

[ownd]

yup thats the mentality im trying to attain now. I always find my self pulling my dick at every dam second of the day lol everytime i stretch now i do stretches haha. Hopefully i get some serious gains by the end of this year. Im aiming for .5 inches by my birthday which in mid december.

[jason12]

did you ever figure out how to use the device?

[Zoran]

damn ownd, you seem really motivated, bro!! keep it that way and I'll be shocked if you don't gain massively! ;)

[ownd]

Jason everday i put it on a little to get used to it so yea im using it but i think im going to use it more for hanging, because since i do not live alone i cant really use the big device for a strech however i can use the string thing as an ADS.

Thanks zoran yea im doing fucking around, im pissed ive been here for 5 years and only have an inch in girth and length to show for it. well 2 inches total but im only counting length

[EndorphinMachine]

seems to me you need to change your workouts more often. In 5 years you might have gained more I guess...But the important is that u have already gained more than most people around here! Keep that in mind and be positive! The 8x6 can't escape forever:D

[Zoran]

hey OWND
an INCH in girth????? Dude that is spectacular achivement!!!! wooowwww

[ownd]

i gues its good but not for 5 years lol. Its been because of inconsistency. In about 5 years i would honestly say i have PE'd less then a full year consistently when you put all the PE time together.

[EndorphinMachine]

Well...I've been aquainted with PE since about 2002 or so and I had experienced it inconsistently for only a few weeks but that doesn't count for 5 years ! Anyway now you're gonna be consistent or me and Zoran will just have to fly to wherever u live to beat up ur ass! :twisted:

[ownd]

what an amazing week for PE!

perfect routine monday and wed and then thursday did like 15 minutes of holds.

then today which is friday

did 325 jelqs, 20 minute of holds, 30 sec stretches each direction and 15 minutes of hanging with 5.5 lbs which felt amazing only downside was massive fluid build up which scared me. but other then that amazing PE day today!!
woohoooo.

[EndorphinMachine]

Although there are posts that say that fluid build up is bad, I got it in the past when doing drys and it was during that time that I gained the most girth. I would actually be happy if it still happened! Don't worry about it and also there's no need to let it recover from that.

[Rum_Runner]

Ownd way to take PE seriously. Skies the limit now my friend. Keep up with it and you will develop the penis you are looking for.

[billy1964]

excellent workouts ownd. you are the man.:D

[ownd]

Just updating

Monday was good

250 long slow jelqs
Kegals
15 minutes of holds
15 minute of hanging 5.5 lbs


Wed ( today)
15 minutes of hanging 5.5 lbs
250 Jelqs
30 minute of holds
2 30 sec stretches each direction

Goin good!!

[jason12]

Hows hanging feel? Do you do you manual stretches with the device or you still use your hands?

[ownd]

i still do with my hands but i did some with the device as well felt pretty good. Hanging feels amazing i can really feel that its giving my dick a continous stretch to the ligs or tunica dont know which but i really feel it. I just want to stop getting so much fluid build up im sure after a few weeks it will stop coming as bad.

Theirs no danger of getting it continousley right? as long as it goes away quickly

[jason12]

No danger I can think of. Again if you lower the weight you wont get fluid buildup and it will still be conditioning your penis and working it out.

[jason12]

No danger I can think of. Again if you lower the weight you wont get fluid buildup and it will still be conditioning your penis and working it out.

[ownd]

WED and today friday

300 jelqs

2 sets of manual stretches

15 minutes of holds

15 minutes of stretching

10 war holds

[billy1964]

excellent sir. you are just a different person since you won the contest.:D

[Rum_Runner]

Fuck Ownd way to go my man. The Spartans have nothing on you for long.:cool

[ownd]

SPARTAAAAAAAAAA haha.

i must confess i didnt get to do my 15 minutes of stretching today i feel horrible about it, def making them up tommorow at some point in the day but all else i wrote down in the routine was done and counted for!!.

The contest was just a wake up call, im tired of being 6 months down the road and saying shit i wonder how big i could have been by now if i would have PE'd hard, or even a year down the line so im not going to let myself get like that agian. From now its part of my life untill i hit at least a moderate goal of 7.5 erect length and 6 girth. which i think i can do in about 2 years. I just think of all the time ive wasted and use that as motivation to not miss anymore. 2 weeks in the bag perfect routine no complaints ill measure in 2 more weeks to see how this routine is going and see if it needs modification. I definitley feel thicker when im flacid already and a lot harder erections.

[Rum_Runner]

Congrats again sir

[ownd]

Jason i have the leg strap on right now feels good but to wear it inconspicously i can either only go left or right stretching so it wraps around my body you know. Will stretching left and right give as an effective stretch as going straight down like hanging does?
also i feel tying the knots is pretty difficult so it maintains the same constant tension took me a good 5 minutes just to set up the apparatus. Lets see if i get fluid build up as bad as with hanging i think im gnna leave it on for a good 30 minutes.

[ownd]

just finished about 35 minutes of the stretch pretty good. Once i was done i did manual stretches with the string and i felt a great tug on the ligs as opposed to the skin with normal stretches. When i took the device up fluid build up was no where near as bad as with hanging the only thing that always swells up a lot is that little peace of skin under the dick hole, frenulum? annoying but w/e good stuff thanks for the device jason i love it. I havent gotten to use the big extender thing yet as i dont have privacy i see myself mostly using it for hanging, manual stretches, and ADS with the strap.


just notcied i got 3 pretty large red spots on dick head from the device, i think it might have been the manual stretches since i did them intense

[EndorphinMachine]

The contest was just a wake up call, im tired of being 6 months down the road and saying shit i wonder how big i could have been by now if i would have PE'd hard, or even a year down the line so im not going to let myself get like that agian. From now its part of my life untill i hit at least a moderate goal of 7.5 erect length and 6 girth. which i think i can do in about 2 years. I just think of all the time ive wasted and use that as motivation to not miss anymore. 2 weeks in the bag perfect routine no complaints ill measure in 2 more weeks to see how this routine is going and see if it needs modification. I definitley feel thicker when im flacid already and a lot harder erections.

What you just said is a wake up call for me as well! Sometimes I slack and don't do my workouts properly. If I had been doing them all as I should I could have already gained more. May that be a lesson to us all, Owned! I gotta give you the reps for writing down that thought!:cool

[ownd]

did 200 wet jelqs today but got filled with redspots because i did them intense. Also did about 20 minutes of marathon holds.

I didnt hang today for 2 reasons, 1 being i got redspots from jelqing so i want to rest, and 2 im so dead tired i played raquet ball for 4 hours lol. I will hang tommorow on my off day to make up for it.

[jason12]

Jason i have the leg strap on right now feels good but to wear it inconspicously i can either only go left or right stretching so it wraps around my body you know. Will stretching left and right give as an effective stretch as going straight down like hanging does?
also i feel tying the knots is pretty difficult so it maintains the same constant tension took me a good 5 minutes just to set up the apparatus. Lets see if i get fluid build up as bad as with hanging i think im gnna leave it on for a good 30 minutes.


With the leg strap it goes down either side of you leg. If you are talking about around the waist I don't know because I never wore it that way for more than like 5 minutes. Around the leg is very good imo and it great because you can actually move around with the thing on. Weird this is I used to get fluid buildup around the hole of my penis and now I couldn't get it there if I tried. You can make it as intense as you want. You can make it have more force than hanging but you directions are kind of limited. You can only do up right, up left, down right, down left. I don't know how hidden it would be if you wore it straight out haha.

[Rum_Runner]

Wear a kilt. Thats what they are for.

[K-man]

I will hang tommorow on my off day to make up for it.

Make sure the spots have all gone before you go again man. Remember, doing too much is as bad as not doing enough!!


Oh, and LMAO @ Rummy.

[The Assman]

Congrats on those gains bro...god damn ur a girth guru lol

[ownd]

did my 16 minutes of stretching today, had a lot of fluid built up like usual but what ever i dont care it goes away in about 5 minutes.

I dont feel like getting in the shower and doing my 300 jelqs right now lol, but i have to so after the ultimate fighter show im going upstairs and doing my 300 jelqs, and manual stretches.

And then later tonight around 1am ill do my marathon holds. I need to take it easier on the jelqs to avoid red spots.

Also as per my goals this month im not greedy so im only asking to gain .1 inches in length!! lol thats all just something to show its working only thing that .1 can depend on so many things like erection strength and what not so hopefully i get more but thats all i ask for because i figure if i get .1 every month in a year ill be at 7.3 so no complaints their from me. As far as girth i dont know what to expect because usually im about 5.5 but last time i had a bad measurement and it showed 5.25 but i also measured a very inconsistent way, so next measurement im giong to print out a paper ruler print it out and wrap it around, also going to take measurements in diff parts of the shaft. Not to concerned about girth as i know it will come, i just want flacid and erect length so bad.

[ownd]

just did 300 jelqs. Going to do the marathon holds soon.

[Rum_Runner]

Way to attack it Ownd. Keep it up

[ownd]

:mrgreen just did 30 minutes of marathon holds with a few dry jelqs when i went soft. And my manual stretches. Today is my off day but figured i woudl throw some of those in since i slacked on them in my previous workouts.

[ownd]

yesterday being friday i did 300 jelqs, holds and manual stretches. I tried to do hanging but got interupted and had to stop pretty gay but w/e. Today is saturday and i havent done anything and i jacked off which was good as i havent done it in a while. Cant really say i notice any gains visually.

Measuring day is oct 20th

[ownd]

Jason i was just going to ask you how you attach it to your leg but i just realized they included a leg strap lol i never saw that. So you put the vacum on and just tie the white string to the leg strap that easy right? you dont use the metal ring for that.

[jason12]

Jason i was just going to ask you how you attach it to your leg but i just realized they included a leg strap lol i never saw that. So you put the vacum on and just tie the white string to the leg strap that easy right? you dont use the metal ring for that.

Its is easy as that. What I do is put on the device and also put on the leg strap with the string already on the stap and tighten it. It is hard to put the string through once the leg thing in on and tight and it is simple to put in through the cup so this is what I do it this way. Also I like using the elastic string a lot better. It is really really long so you will have to loop it around or something but I wound up using only the elastic instead of the regular white string. Try both and tell me which you like.

[ownd]

Yea the elastic seems long as shit but mabie ill just cut off a peace to use for that purpose because i dont see myself using the actual silver cock ring thing for the left to right strecthes but ill try the white string b4 that first.

[ownd]

i have the ads on right now with the leg strap it feels great jason!. at first i had a hard time getting the leg strap to grab and not move but i figured it out at the end. Good stuff ive had it on for about an hour with a constant stretch and most of the time i stretch my leg out to give it a nice intense stretch.

[ownd]

Just finished about 30 minutes of marathon holds and drys / edging all mixed in with each other.

Jason after i took off the ads for about an hour or more i had terrible fluid build up my dick head looked like it was mutated lol. It went away after about 5 minutes but im just concerned that if i keep getting fluid build up will it permanetly change the shape of my dick head? or what bothers me a lot is you know hte little peace of skin under the dick hole i think its called the frenulum, well that swells up in size like 3 times large then normal looks like a little clit, i dont want that to become larger from constant fluid build up? you think i should be worried or does it always go back to normal size

[jason12]

I have got major fluid buildup so many times and nothing has ever happened.

[ownd]

Well i dont mean anything, bad but has your dick head shape changed in any way? also do u know what i mean when i say the frenulum that little peace of skin under the dick hole gets swollen did this happen to you and or did it change in size permanetly?

Also just finished 300 good wet jelqs. In total today i did about hour of vacum stretching, 30 minutes or so of holds / dry jelqs n edging, 300 jelqs, some manual stretches.

[Rum_Runner]

great workout today Ownd. You should be pleased

[jason12]

Well i dont mean anything, bad but has your dick head shape changed in any way? also do u know what i mean when i say the frenulum that little peace of skin under the dick hole gets swollen did this happen to you and or did it change in size permanetly?

Also just finished 300 good wet jelqs. In total today i did about hour of vacum stretching, 30 minutes or so of holds / dry jelqs n edging, 300 jelqs, some manual stretches.

I know what you are talking about, I had the same problem for a short time. My penis looks perfectally fine lol. You have seen the pictures that what it looks like lol.

[ownd]

today is my day off and i jacked off but i feel so guilty lol. Dam pe makes me not want to ejaculate anymore lol.

[The Assman]

You should never feel bad about beating the meat! never...

[Rum_Runner]

ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. Never ever!

[K-man]

Ever!! :mrgreen :cool

[EndorphinMachine]

Ever Ever!:D

[ownd]

good today, i did 16 minutes of hanging at 5.5 pounds today. Then i really really didnt feel like doing my jelqs but i pushed through it and jumped in the shower and did my 300 jelqs. Later tonight i will do my marathon holds. Over all i cant notice any gains visually.

[ownd]

never really taken measurements / pics of the actual width across so here they are hard to see accuratley but id say about 1.75 mabie a bit more.


http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2811/1widthxb3.jpg



http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6852/2widthnm3.jpg

[The Assman]

Thats my goal right there...those pics right there are what i want to look like...5.5 then i'll want more lol im gonna have to print those and post them up on my fridge...hopefully my girlfriend wont mind.:twisted:
(just playin...dont wanna freak anyone out)

[The Assman]

actually...i'd be pretty stoked if sumone i didnt know had a pic of MY dick on their fridge! lol haha yes!:mrgreen

[ownd]

haha assman, and your length is way above my goal. I would be one happy man with an 8 inch plus dick. im just aiming for 7.5 inches and that is pushing it. But i dont know what is wrong with me i feel like i have reverse anorexia but of the dick, because i feel like my dick is super tiny and skinny, it does not seem like i have 5.5 what so ever but its good to know that people can attest that i atleast look 5.5 because i do not feel this way what so ever, to me my dick feels at least an inch smaller on girth like 4ish and yes ive measured its 5.5 about. Also length im so hungry for an extra inch FUKKKKKKKK i hate being under 7 inches.

[The Assman]

You'll be LONG in not LONG! everyone has reverse anorexia with their dick, i look at mine and im just like awww fuckkkk, look at it, thicken u little bastard! to me it looks 4ish also, wat can we do. PE until its 8 inches around 11 inches long? it might look like a normal size dick to us after that!

[Rum_Runner]

I doubt it, it would still seem smalll.:P You can put my penis pic on your fridge if you want. I will release my rights to the pic.:D

[ownd]

if i were to ever reach 8 x 6 i would never touch my dick again and die happy lol. 7.5 NBP i can still see myself mabie having second thoughts and wanting more because its just nice being able to say you have an 8 inch dick so much confidence in a guy when you know you have that packing. I feel i will be so much more of a well rounded person when i attain confidence in that area.

[Rum_Runner]

Ownd you would want more at 9 x 6.5, thats why I respect you. You speak the truth.

[Heinz]

Awesome pics Ownd. U look girthy as fuck, n to think u started out at 4" is amazing. Theres hope for me yet lol

[Rum_Runner]

Theres hope for us all, congrats on reaching post #69 ^

[K-man]

/\ :roll:

[ownd]

Awesome pics Ownd. U look girthy as fuck, n to think u started out at 4" is amazing. Theres hope for me yet lol

yup you just need to figure out if your the type that gains girht or length easier i gain girth a lot easier i wish it was length but o well.

[ownd]

300 jelqs today, 16 minutes of hanging. red spots from jelq so taking it easy

[TheThreatdown]

Ownd, you're probably the hardest working man in PE right now.

3 years! Wow.

Good luck on your goal!

[The Assman]

True dat...ur an inspiration to me in the girth gaining...i dont know if i ever gain 1.5 inches but damn hope i get at least half of that!

[ownd]

lol thanks threat down but im sure their are a lot of people that work harder. Remember i haven't PE'd consistently for 3 years if i had who knows where i would be right now but that is the mind set i use now so i never miss a workout. A year from now i dont want to be thinking the same thing "i wonder where i woudl have been if i woudl have PE'd"

[Heinz]

Ownd thats exactly how i think the now cos i orginally started in jan this yr but gave up after 2 weeks cos i didn't think it worked. Now after having come back and am 2.5 months into and gained i keep thinking if only i kept at it all this time i would have had 8-9 months under ma belt n i cant even begin to imagine the size i would of been.

[The Assman]

yeh i think everybody has been through that, i went a few weeks and had no gains, so i quit...this was back in january of 06...i would of had amost 2 years...i could of had a monter!!!:evil:

[ownd]

lol exactly so this shoudl be enough reason to not miss any workouts so we avoid this mind set a year from now.

[EndorphinMachine]

I agree. Still you shouldn't make PE priority number 1 in your life. Just do it as well as you can but don't miss out on more important stuff because of it. :wink:

[jason12]

I agree. Still you shouldn't make PE priority number 1 in your life. Just do it as well as you can but don't miss out on more important stuff because of it. :wink:

agreed but unless you have an insane routine (or life) there really isn't a reason to miss. I have been doing it every day for over 6 months and it really isn't that hard.

[EndorphinMachine]

I couldn't possibly do it everyday. At least not a decent workout and by that I mean doing the exercises correctly with the desirable percentage of erection, proper warmup etc...But I do try to do it the 3 time a week I have schedulled.

[jason12]

I couldn't possibly do it everyday. At least not a decent workout and by that I mean doing the exercises correctly with the desirable percentage of erection, proper warmup etc...But I do try to do it the 3 time a week I have schedulled.

Well my workouts are something just ads or hanging so its different but in no way would I say that someone would have to workout everyday to gain. My point was it shouldn't be hard to stick to your routine.

[jason12]

Hey owned when you feel ready try hanging while doing a v stretch with something that is kind of thick. I use a thick remote control. I put my boxers over my penis and push in the middle of my penis as I hang. I feel the stretch come all the way up through my pubic area. I have no idea what this means for gains but it feels like my penis is getting pulled out from the inside of me. Also sometimes I hang really low and put my foot on the rope and than move my pelvis so I get a huge stretch. I thought you might be able to describe the feeling better (if it might help for gains) since you have been peing for so long.

Otherwise how is the vac device working for you?

[ownd]

its going great although i havent been doing long time stretches just about 20 minutes at a time with 5.5 pounds.

BUT I HAD A BIG PROBLEM TODAY IM SO PISSED, i ripped the yellow gel peace that goes on your penis i think its because i stretched it to much when i turn it inside out so im so pissed i dont know what to do. Anyways i was pissed so just stuck my dick inside the plastic peace and put the blue sleeve over it and hung and it felt the same shit lol. So what is the point of the yellow peace anyways, when i took it off i had i would say more fluid build up but it was more evenly spaced as my whole dick head was swollen, however it didnt look deformed as when i use the yellow peace, and the frenulum wasnt inflamed. What should i do


also have to say guys today is the first time all month that i miss my jelqs. I did my hanging, and im going to do my holds and drys later tonight but i just didnt do my jelqs out of tiredness i have no excuse and feel like shit ill probably make them up on my off day tommorow.

[jason12]

its going great although i havent been doing long time stretches just about 20 minutes at a time with 5.5 pounds.

BUT I HAD A BIG PROBLEM TODAY IM SO PISSED, i ripped the yellow gel peace that goes on your penis i think its because i stretched it to much when i turn it inside out so im so pissed i dont know what to do. Anyways i was pissed so just stuck my dick inside the plastic peace and put the blue sleeve over it and hung and it felt the same shit lol. So what is the point of the yellow peace anyways, when i took it off i had i would say more fluid build up but it was more evenly spaced as my whole dick head was swollen, however it didnt look deformed as when i use the yellow peace, and the frenulum wasnt inflamed. What should i do


also have to say guys today is the first time all month that i miss my jelqs. I did my hanging, and im going to do my holds and drys later tonight but i just didnt do my jelqs out of tiredness i have no excuse and feel like shit ill probably make them up on my off day tommorow.

You don't need the yellow piece. It is ment to stop fluid buildup but some people work up to not using it so for the time being you should be fine. If you feel you need it you can order a whole bunch of them for pretty cheap from the website.

[ownd]

so you think just using the plastic peace with the sleeves after a few months my dick will just stop developing fluid build up? do you use it?

[jason12]

so you think just using the plastic peace with the sleeves after a few months my dick will just stop developing fluid build up? do you use it?

I have a good amount of skin on my penis and my skin winds up getting sucked into the sides and its pretty annoying so I use it. I have had the same one for a LONG time and it never broke so as long as you know what you did wrong you should be able to use the next one for a long time. Again it is not needed but everyone is different.

[ownd]

sounds good im cut so the skin problem is not an issue but ill see. Also im supposed to measure in 2 days but i dont feel mentally ready to do so lol so i want to give it another week or 2 before i measure and make sure i do some more kegals i so i have a rock hard erection while measuring.

[jason12]

Sounds good to me. I am cut as well but I somehow run into that problem lol.

[ownd]

ive been getting a lot less fluid build up without the yellow tip thing.

[jason12]

Wow thats good to hear. LOoks like everything happens for a reason after all. What angles do you hang at. Once you get used to hanging for longer periods of time try hanging in all 5 different directions.

[ownd]

well less fluid build up is the wrong phrase, i actually get more now but its more evenly spaced out through out my whole dick so it looks less, when compared to the other yellow thing that shrivels up my dick and focus'es all the fluid build up near the tip so it looks like its more but not really w/e.

Also it has really sucked i havent been able to do more then like 200 jelqs because i start getting a lot of small red spots a lot quicker then usual i dont know what is happening.

[EndorphinMachine]

maybe u have been overworking and your blood vessels are weak. Letting them rest for a week would be a good idea. Remember that overworking can have a negative effect on your hability to gain.

[ownd]

:cry:
Just measured and i am the exact same measurements as last time i measured length and girth is pretty much officially 5-5.25 not 5.5 it was a bad measurement last few times. So over a month of PE

300 jelqs
and 16 mins 3X week of hanging
manual stretches
marathon holds

I missed about 2 workouts the whole month so i was very consistent in my opinion. Occasionaly i would skip the manual stretches because i did hanging, and holds i woudl skip to once in a while but at the least i did 300 jelqs and 16 mins of hanging MWF for over a month.

Same exact length, Same exact girth. Waste of a month

really sucks.
im obviously not doing something right so i need to rethink things, i dont eve remember what it feels like to gain to be honest with you the gains i made 2 months ago were so minimal that i dont accept them as gains or dont even beleive i made them and i honestly have not seen any gains in length in years im getting pretty discouraged and thinking that mabie i just cant gain anymore.

[metallicarocks05]

Might be time for a break. Take a few weeks off, relax, don't put so much pressure on yourself.

[EndorphinMachine]

Of course you can gain! Theoritically there is no limit of gains but it takes time! Man for the first months of PE I gained zero and them out of nowhere my dick just boomed and was 0,6cm thicker than before!
If you haven't gained for a long time either u take a break for a month at least or you do a totally different workout or ease it up a bit. You may have overworked.

Keep your spirit up soldier! YOU WILL GAIN! Don't you dare quit again:evil:

[ownd]

well im going to continue on another month and hopefully i get these surprise gains that people talk about. Im going to give some good thinking into a new routine though.

[metallicarocks05]

Maybe you should try to focus either all on length, or all on girth, whichever you want more. So if you go length, take out the holds, maybe increase the hanging durations and/or frequencies? Just an idea.

[ownd]

i guess so. just feel like everyone is gaining except me what ever thats life

[jason12]

Hey I am at a sticking point too so don't feel bad.

[ownd]

Starting back up on monday had to take a week break after 2 months and no gains.

Designing a new routine at the moment. I have to gain im so desperate.

[ownd]

ok guys so fuck this shit of not gaining im not giving up im so desperate for gains i dont know what ill do if i dont gain this month or 2.

Anyways A+ workout today

2.5 hours of ADS stretch
30 sec manual stretches each direction 2 times
200 Jelqs at 3-4 seconds

[ownd]

Another A workout today

200 Jelqs at 3 to 4 seconds which seems to take forever lol. Much longer then my old 1 second jelqs lol

20 minutes hanging at 5 pounds

30 Sec Manual Stretch 4 ways

Marathon Holds to Porn

[Rum_Runner]

You will get there do not worry. You will get there

[ownd]

i hope so, thanks for the motivation

[Rum_Runner]

I really feel for you my friend. I see your effort and your consistency this past summer was pretty damn good. Hopefully by the new year you will acheive some gains that keep you motivated to countinue down this road. Stay true and believe in yourself. I believe you can do it. Your are a Spartan now hit it hard and move on..............................................

[ownd]

thanks rum. I had to take the last 2 days off of jelqing because i rubbed the dam skin off my dick and it hurts so i have to let it heal but i am still using the ADS stretcher for a few hours since it only attaches to the head. Hopefully monday i can get back to the jelqs.

[EndorphinMachine]

Ownd nice to see your true dedication to PE! I can't brag about that these days. I hope you gain pretty soon! Hell with that workout I'm sure you will!! Keep rockin!:cool

[ownd]

i think im changing my routine to just target length so simply put im doing about 2-4 hours of leg strap ADS and then 2 sets of manual stretches and mabie like once or twice a week 200 jelqs and some holds but more then anything stretching. Ive noticed a little bit better flacid hang thats about it thus far.

[ownd]

been wearing the ADS stretcher to my leg abotu 4 times a week anywhere from 2-5 hours. With manual stretches.

Have not been jelqing as i want to focus on length only and see what happens, once in a while ill do a few dry jelqs here and their but nothign serious. Also im going to start doing JAI stretches 15 reps per set 3 sets per day.

[ownd]

going on 3 hours of ADS, i have noticed a slight increase in flacid length but could just be wishfull thinking lol.
Mostly just been doing a few hours 3 or 4 times a week of ADS with about 30 reps of JAI stretches.

[Rum_Runner]

Way to work it Ownd. No problems I hope.

[ownd]

no problems, just dont feel like im gaining a dam thing and keep reading about the whole dam world gaining except me. Im starting to beleive that my dick just wont grow anymore.

[Rum_Runner]

It will give it time. It will. I have been feeling that way as well. Not that I have not gained anything. I know if you gain something it is something, but man I was hoping for a growth sprout or something. Hang in there, it will happen.:cheeky:

[jason12]

no problems, just dont feel like im gaining a dam thing and keep reading about the whole dam world gaining except me. Im starting to beleive that my dick just wont grow anymore.

Man do I feel you! I am in the same boat right now and I am running out of ideas lol. If it comes to it I am going to take off for a little bit and come back nice and easy with a different approach. I can't tell if I am being greedy and actually gaining but just much slower than usual or ifI am just not gaining. I know my eq has gone done and I am not getting as frequent and hard erections now. How is your eq? What do you feel is the problem right now. Don't just say "I can't gain" because you have to be thinking "well maybe its ____".

[Rum_Runner]

Maybe we all need a month to look back and think, or maybewe all need a break. Who knows. This past weekend I had a little breakthrough. Two nights in a row I just applied heat like I do in my warm ups. Nothing else like two hours. The next morning I had super hard erections like I did when I was younger. I also had some great ass dreams. I have no idea why or how I just know it happened.:?

[ownd]

i jelqd a lot so its not lack of jelqing, i did a lot of holds so its not that. Before i could have attributed it to lack of stretching but now i am using the leg strap stretcher about 3 hours every other day so after a month or so i will measure. If nothing then i honestly dont know what to do, mabie my dick is conditioned to resist everything. My flacid size is so small right now also it pisses me off. I took a week off because i had a business trip and my dick feels like a little turtle head.

[TheThreatdown]

Sad to say if that is the case, you've really done quite a good job for yourself man.

[ownd]

im not quitting, im not going to live with my dick at this size. Before i can even consider quiting i need to add at least another inch in length and half inch girth. To at least get me to the 7 inch mark.

[The Assman]

in the same boat on the flaccid state...looks like a shrimp...its soo depressing!:x

[Rum_Runner]

Yeah I would find 8.4 very depressing. Well for my sweety it would be. She would swear I was trying to puncture a kidney or something

[ownd]

yea poor ass man 8 and a half inch dick

[TheThreatdown]

yea poor ass man 8 and a half inch dick

Lol.

I believe that's what we call a "comfortable problem".

[Rum_Runner]

You fucking think?:shock:

[ownd]

Just measured for the competition. I am using a different ruler now so i dont know if its that i lost length or what but i will be using the same ruler for the whole competition.

6 X 5.20

[TheThreatdown]

LETS GET EM OWND!

[billy1964]

whats up ownd? still hanging in there I see and thats great. don't you ever give up on what you want. you will hit your mark and man what a day that will be.:D

[ownd]

new routine

5 days a week 125 jelqs

20 Jelq Jais

30 second Helis begginign and end of workout

Occasioanal stretching with hanger
/ ads

[G-Spot19]

I like these jelq jai concept. I think im goinna try em out.

[ownd]

did 125 jelqs today with some Jai stretches. also just finished my session of marathon holds today wasnt an average day as i got carried away and probably did 40 minutes of porn / marathon holds my boners were so hard it ached.

[ownd]

also 20 jelq jais, yea Gspot i feel they are awesome combination

[ownd]

beenn good so far havent missed a day

125 jelqs everday, lots of JAIS, intense amount of holds

[ownd]

been using my ads again. Thought id post up my measurements from today. Lost some for sure.


NBEL: 5.5
BPEL: 6

Girth didnt even bother.

Im kinda depressed that ive been around PE for 4 years and havent gained a thing lol. my life would be so different right now if i had a huge cock but i blame no one but my stupid self. I noticed a trend not only in PE but in my life of being super inconsistent with everything i do and im trying to change it, not only for PE but for my life so im searching inside myself now to make some changes. I mean ive been inconsistent in everything, PE, gym, jiu jitsu, work, school you name it i start and stop it. Im disgusted with myself right now, and i want to change and im trying i dont know why its so hard for me to stick with things.

Im not going to say im starting PE again blah blah blah, im just gnna do it starting today, ive been doing actually past few days now but im going to update this diary daily My routine will be as follows

ADS at a very light stretch: Minimum 2 hours Daily M-F
Manual Stretches: 20 Second Stretches Each Direction 2X (various times through out day mixed in with JAI stretches)
200 3-4 sec jelqs M-F

Also might do some water bottle Stretches, and mabie look into clamping as well.

[w3]

You've noticed you have this problem, so that means you're one step closer to solving it.
I know how you feel with getting things started and just being incredibly inconsistent. It requires a certain type of inner strenght to keep everything in line.

[EndorphinMachine]

You've noticed you have this problem, so that means you're one step closer to solving it.

exactly!

[ownd]

exactly, i have never admitted it to myself before. I put all the things i have to do everday right on my google homepage so its in my face every time i open my browser just to remind me.

My routine i modified it a lil already is basicly M-F

Synthetic Jelqs
Helis
Manual Stretches / JAIS
Holds
Squat Stretch
ADS a few hours.

I might drop it down to MWF if i dont see any progress the first month.

Regards guys.

[EndorphinMachine]

Don't underestimate de power of consciousness about your own defects. Before, you probably had that knowledge buried in your subconscious mind so it was not easy to approach that problem and correct it. Now though, you can't go back. You KNOW there is something wrong and that you wish to change.

Talk the talk, walk the walk:cool

[ownd]

agreed.

Just took off my leg strap strecher after 3 hours, did some manual stretches and helis. Few hours going to do jelqs and then holds tonight.

[ownd]

did lots of manual stretches today, synthetic jelqs, mad helis and im going to do some squat stretches before i go to sleep.

[ownd]

i might not use the ADS anymore because my frenulum gets filled with liquid and im afraid it might permantly get larger and i dont want that.

[ownd]

weekend so i took it easy no real routine done, just a few streches n shit here and their. Will start again tommorow.

[G-Spot19]

Way to keep at it bro! going good. More info on the ADS. What you think is causing it?

[ownd]

just the fluid build up from keeping it on so much, i mean its not that bad but that little skin area under your dick hole or w/e i dont want that to grow permantly then it would look pretty weird. Many people here grew without any devices so i think i should be fine.


Did you use anything else other then your hands? Clamping?

[ownd]

did about 70 synthetic jelqs today, holds, manual stretches, and squat stretch.

[G-Spot19]

Squat stretch feels good dont it. Isolates the ligs better I think. Yeah i have used clamping too.

[ownd]

yea its good, i feel a stretch at the base of the skin though as well as the ligs.

[ownd]

FIghting a small cold so didnt want to take a long ass shower with my routine so basicly just did manual stretches, squat stretch, helis, and a shit load of holds probably a good 25 mins worth. Also after a long hold i will turn it into a dry jelq

[ownd]

went for a run today and i was dead fucking tired almost shaking so i couldnt do my jelqs, but ill make up for it with holds and stretches the rest of the day

[ownd]

did 10 synthetic jelqs and broke out in red spots, not for me right now. did holds in the morning going to buy a clamp tommorow. Dont even want to stretch since i have so many red spots

[ownd]

Im going to try Jelqsters routine out for a month or so, just with more stretches throughout the day, see how that goes for me.

New goal 8x6 in 2 years. Fuk it.

[ownd]

i need to relax with the jelqs, beacuse i didnt let my dick rest from those outbreak of red spots i was doing jelqs today and got a bad purple spot so im going to take a few days off of jelqs and just stick with good stretching and holds. FUK

[ownd]

i couldnt help it and just felt like measuring and my BP size went up to about 6.2 mabie tad less but its up from 6 when i did my last measure, however when i did my NBP it was still at 5.5 any explanations on that? and no i didnt get fatter if your thinking thats one lol.

But anyways thats all i needed for encouragement fucking awesome, some good length gains already and the contest just started muhahahah

[G-Spot19]

I dunno. I have seen it happen before and have no real solid explination for why it may happen. As for the gain, AwESOME! Congrats :cool

[kim]

i couldnt help it and just felt like measuring and my BP size went up to about 6.2 mabie tad less but its up from 6 when i did my last measure, however when i did my NBP it was still at 5.5 any explanations on that? and no i didnt get fatter if your thinking thats one.

Same thing happened to me, only the BP measurement moved up a bit but no measureable gains for the NBP. It's probably normal, but of course, we would want to gain NBP lenght too!

[Jelqster]

I measure once or twice a day LMFAO, (nojoke i mean it)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Jelqster]

Im going to try Jelqsters routine out for a month or so, just with more stretches throughout the day, see how that goes for me.

New goal 8x6 in 2 years. Fuk it.


Im no pro mate, but I will write up what I do in detail (i dont seem to do jelqs etc the traditional CC/PE way) I think every dick is different and you have to work how little tricks that increase the intensity for your own little man then develope tho's, but by all means try what I do, I am glad I am some what a source of motivation for you.

[ownd]

taking a break this weekend to let my red spots heal and what not. i cant wait to hit it hard on monday again.

[jason12]

Congratulations on the gains ownd!

[ownd]

did my 150 jelqs today with about 10 Synth Jelqs at the end, before i go to sleep im going to do my stretching sessions, holds and some drys before i hit the sack.