Average Vagina Size

[wern]

I can't plug any pages, but I will summarise what I have read:



The vagina can expand and contract rather substantially. Normally, the walls are relaxed and collapsed together. But, during sexual arousal, the inner two-thirds expand. This is why the vagina is sometimes called a "virtual space." During intercourse, most women can accommodate almost any size penis, including a 12-inch one. So your friend is not entirely wrong either.

Although another source slightly adjusts the maximum size accomodated:

Average Vagina Size

http://www.penissizedebate.com/images/doc/average_vagina_size.gif


Variations in Vagina Sizes
Vaginas vary in sizes just like penises do, although less extreme. Here also we can see a correlation between vagina depth and vagina width, meaning the deeper vaginas usually dilate more than the shorter ones.

Compare the following tables (estimated values):

http://www.penissizedebate.com/images/doc/percent1.gif

Let us say you have a six-inch long penis at full erection. Maybe you think your girl is also six inches deep because when you penetrate her fully you touch the end of the vagina. Keep in mind however that her previous lover with eight inches also touched the end of the vagina when he penetrated her. It means that he simply stretched the tissue two inches further.

So what is the maximum length of her vagina? Difficult to say. As a rule of thumb the average woman can handle penises 9 inches long and 2 ½ inches wide (8 inches around). True size queens can often take up to 12 inches long and 3 inches wide!

In summation:
The vagina is a small muscular organ that becomes very flexible when aroused. It can then expand greatly. Women who have a developed PC muscle can contract their vagina, thereby becoming tighter but most women can't be bothered to even contemplate doing that.
All women can feel pleasure from an average sized penis because when aroused their vagina becomes ver sensitive. Some women have had their vagina stretched from fucking heaps of well hung men (esp the female porn stars) so they can't enjoy an average sized penis.

[MagnumXL]

are u trying to upset me? :cry:

[smooth]

are you trying to confuse me?

[wern]

I just updated the thread at the end with a summary. Hope it helps guys :cool

[Ordo Ferrum]

Ive read that before, and im pretty sure that it was going along with a PE type website, So they were trying to peddle thier plans to people using that info, in the end i seriously doubt that most woman can take a 12 inch cock i know several girls who have fucked large guys and cant fit most of it in, either im talking to the minority group that isnt the MOST girls that, that site says or its bullshitting.

[Beefeater]

If this information is real, I'm just wondering how they actually mesure the vagina's length and width. I mean isnt it awkward. A penis however is must easier to mesure as it sticks out and has a concrete volume erect and flaccid.

Just my two cents.

[Ordo Ferrum]

Lol thats a very good point beef, how the fuck do they measure it :?

[Beefeater]

I was thinking they probably use a dildo until it fits perfectly, but again, very awkward. :?

[BigBadBear]

are u trying to upset me? :cry:
Don't take offence to stuff like this. If you're here then you accept the reality that a bigger penis is better and don't buy that crap that you should 'accept yourself as you are'. Take it on the chin and use it as motivation for getting stuck into PE.

Even if this info isn't correct, it's clear that the average penis is nowhere near a challenge for a woman and you would have to be pretty damn big to really test her limits.

[Ordo Ferrum]

But the fact boils down that you dont need to be huge to test a girls limits and most girls dont want to be tested lol. Im not saying PE is bad and you shoudnt do it except what youve got, but not to feel bad about your penis size as it is that you dont need to be huge to please.

[BigBadBear]

Yeah of course, I accept all of what you say, but the fact remains that a bigger penis is better if all other factors are equal. Obviously there's no point getting hung up on this, as for the time being you've got what you've got and thats all you can use and chances are that will be fine. I'm pretty much dead on average in terms of length and girth and I struggle to remember a sex session where I haven't made my girlfriend orgasm at least once, often many more times.

Personally, I feel happy with myself as I'm doing something about my size and when I'm having sex or whatever with my girlfriend, I don't think about it at all, I just enjoy the moment. Being here is in itself is a positive step forward and I'm pleased with myself for taking that step, but it really irritates me that magazines and the media tell you just to accept yourslf the way you are. If everyone did that, then there would be far more fat ugly people around. If you're fat or skinny and weak, you go down the gym and eat better. If you have a smaller penis than you'd like, you PE. Seems as simple as that to me.

[smooth]

Then again i know to clean your colon they stick something ovr 9 inches in your ass, but then if i had the choice i wouldn't want something 9 inches, or even at all in my ass!

Just because she "can" fit 12 inches or 8 inch girth, doesn't mean it will be good. Otherwise childbirth would be invigorating.

[wern]

Firstly, part of the info in the original post is from a PE related website, so definately potential bias. But another part, (the frst paragraph) is from an "ask the doctor" sexual health site that isn't peddling anything. This site also mentions that you can't naturally enlarge a penis! Therefore, it is more likely to be objective info.

Secondly, I imagine we are all here to enlarge/harden our penises so we must already believe that larger is better, otherwise we would be demented. I personally think tht erection hardness and "the way you use it" matters more than size. Someone with rock hard erections that can fuck like a jackhammer all night and has a 5.5incher will give more satisfaction than someone with 8inches who doesn't get very hard erections and lasts 3-5minutes.

[Spike]

The second chart agrees with the Kama Sutra - a perfect sexual match is getting penis and vagina sizes to match, then comes slighly big penis in slightly smaller vagina.

I guess that's why the majority are bunched up around average - a wide choice of shag partners.

[BigBadBear]

I personally think tht erection hardness and "the way you use it" matters more than size. Someone with rock hard erections that can fuck like a jackhammer all night and has a 5.5incher will give more satisfaction than someone with 8inches who doesn't get very hard erections and lasts 3-5minutes.
No offence, but these comparisons are really stupid. People talk as though if you have a big penis, then you're by default not going to last long or not be as hard as a guy with a smaller penis. A guy with a large penis is in my view no more or less likely to have good stamina or a very hard erection than any guy with an average penis, so really there is little advantage to having a smaller penis, as a guy with a larger penis can just as easily train himself to last longer or take the same steps to get harder erections that a guy with a smaller penis could.

[wern]

No offence, but these comparisons are really stupid. People talk as though if you have a big penis, then you're by default not going to last long or not be as hard as a guy with a smaller penis. A guy with a large penis is in my view no more or less likely to have good stamina or a very hard erection than any guy with an average penis, so really there is little advantage to having a smaller penis, as a guy with a larger penis can just as easily train himself to last longer or take the same steps to get harder erections that a guy with a smaller penis could.

None taken. I am not saying that all big penises are worse to have than small penises, or even that in general a big penis wont be rock hard and be used well.

I am trying to show one scenario where fucking an average penis is better for a woman than fucking a larger penis in order to show that bigger is not always better and that there are other factors besides size alone that matter (ie how you use it).

The charts and info about vaginas show that they are very flexible when aroused and also very sensitive. What matters most, once you have an average size, is being able to optimally stimulate the nerves in the vagina. Hard erections mean that she can feel all the contours on your dick. Soft erections mean that she has a sponge in there.

Personally I am here to enlarge my penis and don't feel bad about any notion that women like a certain size. I have my PE goal and the size of a woman's vagina won't deter me.

[BigBadBear]

None taken. I am not saying that all big penises are worse to have than small penises, or even that in general a big penis wont be rock hard and be used well.
I know you don't think this, but people always come up with that same example you used in these arguments as though guys with big penises must have other problems as a matter of course, when this is certainly not true.

I am trying to show one scenario where fucking an average penis is better for a woman than fucking a larger penis in order to show that bigger is not always better and that there are other factors besides size alone that matter (ie how you use it).
We can agree on this. Bigger is not always better, but in the majority of cases it will be and certainly if all other factors are equal, it will be better.

[Beefeater]

I understand what Bear is saying and I will relate it with an example.

Here's the situation:

Two judokas are about to fight. They both have the same level of ability. However, one of them weighs 150 pounds, and the other weighs 200 pounds. Since this is judo, and that they both have the same level of skill, who do you think has the advantage? Since judo is a sport where you must outmaneuver your opponent and immobilise him, sheer weight and strength will be the winning factor, considering they both have the same level of ability.

My point is, and I believe so is Bear's, that having a big penis doesnt necessarily mean that you can't use it. If you have both, women will usually find it more pleasurable then with a smaller penis. Face it.

That's why we are here.

[BigBadBear]

Very well put Beefy.

To be honest, I'm pretty surprised at how defensive some people here are about accepting that a bigger penis under most circumstances will be better than a small one. I don't mind being honest with myself about my feelings of inadequacey as long as this leads to me taking positive action about it, which I am, hence my being here.

[JB22]

I'm completely 100 percent with you guys. Obviously if a girl likes you enough to have sex with you (which means you've stimulated her mind and/or finds you attractive in ways other than your penis) she would obviously be a little more turned on by a bigger penis.

[Spike]

Not if she's in the 10% with small vagina.

[BigBadBear]

Not if she's in the 10% with small vagina.

To be honest, I'm pretty surprised at how defensive some people here are about accepting that a bigger penis under most circumstances will be better than a small one.

We're not saying it's always better, but pointing out that in a minority of cases it isn't better is essentially a moot point when in the vast majority of cases it is.

[JB22]

Not if she's in the 10% with small vagina.

true...I will concede that one to you :cool

[wern]

I don't see these forums as "penis enlargement" forums. I see them as penis improvement forums. Improvement in size, in strength, in health, and shape. My view results in part from the kegels and erection straightening exercises as well as the numerous threads on pre-ejauclation control, supplements for healing and penis related deseases.

Because I see it this way I see that erection strengthening is something to strive for seperately from penis enlargement. So it is OK to consider erection strength as being more important than erection size. (remember, I am saying "more important" - I am not saying it is one or the other. If you have both then obviously you are best off... well maybe not for the 10% spike mentioned)

[ArTee63]

I don't see these forums as "penis enlargement" forums. I see them as penis improvement forums. Improvement in size, in strength, in health, and shape...

We need an applause smiley!!!

[wern]

Thanks mate :mrgreen

[SusurrusK]

Hold on... if the vagina 'expands' to fit a bigger penis... doesn't that mean that a smaller one should be able to reach all the areas of the vagina that an 8" could, given that the woman hasn't been permanently stretched previously?

I mean think about it, if you're with an average woman, according to that chart above, she is around 5 to 6 inches deep. So if you're fucking her with a 9" dick, all your doing is stretching the vagina... you're not neccessarily 'reaching new areas'.

Apologies for digging up another ancient thread :P

[BEAST]

Those stats cant be true, most people I know say they have never bottomed out while having sex!

[Fuzzy]

What's up with all the old thread digging? Not saying I disagree with it, but it's like it's become a trend as of late. Ah well, better than making pointless new threads i guess.

[Rum_Runner]

Respect the old threads. I would say bottoming out happens quite frequently in my experiences I would put "bottoming out" at about 6 3/4 to 7 1/4 inches not always of course and not always the same with the same woman. Strange but true.

[SusurrusK]

I dig up old posts mainly because I look at what guests are reading (which is usually an ancient post), and sometimes feel the need to chip in and bring it to new light.

Plus there's a whole lot of new members here that weren't in 2005, so it could add new views on the matter.

[Master Long]

Those stats cant be true, most people I know say they have never bottomed out while having sex!

Most people don't have 8-inch dicks.

[boner7484]

i think its a good idea, the search function doesnt always give you the results you need. plus some people dont even bother to use it.

[mikel]

I don't think I would ever want to be with a woman that can handle the fat end of a baseball bat. And come to think of it, she wouldn't want me.:D
My Dad is a wise man. He always said "big woman, big hole, little woman all hole". Just like the study says.... :)

[Rum_Runner]

Say what all hole. Damn as long as the hole is not her mouth I am there. Mutes are the best

[SiMa]

This whole theory of bigger is better must have been started by a male with a big ego problem. Physically well buit muscular men are stronger than the small thin guy such as myself. Therefore they are thought to be "tougher" and can "take care of" a woman much better as small guy. But, a small guy with self defense or martial arts training depending on the expertise, can take down a solid built guy with the utmost of ease, I've seen it numerous times having been in the military. So, the majority of women say size does matter, the majority of us say size does matter. Which should we go by?

Therefore, WE GUY'S, are obsessed about our size, whether it be in the gym, or in the gym locker room. You see all the "well hung" guys strutting around with no towell on , and the smaller wang guys quickly pulling up their underwear while damn near standing in the locker.

Small penis guys, don't be ashamed! Be confident! that is what most women are looking for!

Well hung males generally come across as "cocky" and can annoy the woman, because oviously, they are too damn stuck on themselves!

But, when it comes down to, if you communicate with her in what she wants and needs sexually, chances are you cannot go wrong.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting a bigger penis.

I stand firmly behind this.

[Rum_Runner]

I say your generalisation of large men being cocky is overstated, I have seen large men try to skirt the whole locker room saga way to often. Tending to be more shy and try to be less noticeable then the "small guys". But then again there are the ass holes as well

[SiMa]

I say your generalisation of large men being cocky is overstated, I have seen large men try to skirt the whole locker room saga way to often. Tending to be more shy and try to be less noticeable then the "small guys". But then again there are the ass holes as well

Actually Rum, that's a good point. I'm actually gonna have to agree with you on the cocky part to be honest.

[Rum_Runner]

Thanks and reps your way for being agreeable, damn it after I spread some love you will recieve some reps.

[SiMa]

Ha ha! Thanks Rum, you did state a good point though.

[SiMa]

Reps comming your way as well Rum

[Rum_Runner]

Boy do i need them, thanx

[Zoran]

here a lil help from me!

[Rum_Runner]

Now I am a rep whore as well:D

[Zoran]

Excuse me!!! Look at my rep bar punk! LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink: :mrgreen

[Rum_Runner]

Yeah but I never heard you say that you needed them.:lol:

[Zoran]

hahahhah true true!!! Ok Rummy you win another title!

I declare you the new REP WHORE! LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: enjoy the privileges!

[Rum_Runner]

I am already sick of being on my knees. So I will retire the title soon

[SiMa]

yeah Rum, Eventually I'll be taking that title, filling your shoes, or shall I say "picking the scabs off my knees" :D

[Rum_Runner]

It is all yours

[hugh g rection]

I fucked this girl once who was 4 inches deep, no joke. Worst sex I've ever had. Consequently, the girl I'm with now and have been with for ~5 months could only take about 6-7 inches when we first started having sex. I can get almost all of it inside her now.

I don't think vagina size is a static thing, I think the cervix does actually move back to some degree with repeated contact.

[Rum_Runner]

So the womb stretcha is more then a name. It is the truth:D

[hugh g rection]

I said I don't think vagina size is static.

Me personally I would not use anything larger than myself although I haven't really looked. I'd rather not draw those comparisons...

[Rum_Runner]

I am sure she would agree ^. That would be a site to see on You Tube, a small car and Hugh's girl.:lol:

[Michael]

I said I don't think vagina size is static.

Damn my lack of attention to detail:) .

[cn2089]

Well i need to find a virgin then lol.

[mikel]

There are just two sizes of vagina. Big, and bigger.:D

[EndorphinMachine]

Just because she "can" fit 12 inches or 8 inch girth, doesn't mean it will be good. Otherwise childbirth would be invigorating.

Actually some women claim that childbirth gives them an enormous pleasure. Think about it, the vagina is under massive pressure on all sensitive spots so there has to be a certain amount of sexual pleasure. I'm not saying they have a screaming orgasm while the baby comes out but they say it feels good. Maybe it's just the way they are pounded that matters, and lubrification of course.

[mikel]

Those women would be few and far between, and even than, they would have to be nut cases.
I have known hundreds of women that gave child birth, and everyone of them say how horrible the pain is. I can not believe that even one woman would enjoy that.

Actually some women claim that childbirth gives them an enormous pleasure. Think about it, the vagina is under massive pressure on all sensitive spots so there has to be a certain amount of sexual pleasure. I'm not saying they have a screaming orgasm while the baby comes out but they say it feels good. Maybe it's just the way they are pounded that matters, and lubrification of course.

[EndorphinMachine]

well...my mother actually told me that. And she's not a nutjob btw lol

[mikel]

well...my mother actually told me that. And she's not a nutjob btw lol
I wouldn't be so sure of that! :lol: If a Mother talks about what gets her off to her Son, she is at the very least different!

Did she come right out and tell you how you got her off? ;)

[EndorphinMachine]

lol no we were talking about childbirth and I said that it must feel terrible giving birth and she said no, it was a very pleasurable and reliefing sensation... she didn't say I got her off loool

[newgoal]

Interesting read, though unscientific. I think those of us who have been with women who have had a few kids through natural child birth can agree they are bigger. The vagina will streach wide but the length wont change too much. I recomend anyone who thinks a woman can take 12'' deep watch the amazingty and then tell me most woman could take more than she can....:lol:

[EndorphinMachine]

watch what?

[newgoal]

watch what?amazingty

I would post a link but I do not know if it is allowed.

[EndorphinMachine]

it is allowed.

[Rum_Runner]

Please post the link. Pretty please:?

[K-man]

lol no we were talking about childbirth and I said that it must feel terrible giving birth and she said no, it was a very pleasurable and reliefing sensation... she didn't say I got her off loool

That must be an exception. I've watched childbirth and trust me, it aint no picnic. The sense of elation when its over though, is an entirely different thing!

[EndorphinMachine]

maybe I got her wrong...

[K-man]

Maybe you just misunderstood.

I've yet to meet a women who says that childbirth is pleasurable!

[Rum_Runner]

You never knew a mother of ten natural child births then.

[EndorphinMachine]

so maybe it IS true lol now I'm just confused
Not all deliveries are hard, some can be quite easy on the woman. I know that my delivery was easy.

[Rum_Runner]

I would say that most women would not freely addmit that they enjoyed childbirth to the extent of your mother for fear of being looked down upon. Not to say that all women expreince what she dide. There is definately some pleasure, it maybe just extreme happiness. But either way it is cool with me. Mothers are amazing.

[newgoal]

Please post the link. Pretty please:?http://www.dennio.com/


You asked :D

[Rum_Runner]

Thanks alot, now I have to see old ladies trying to fit VW's up themselves. Speaking of the size of a car where's ___________?