CDS vs Clitoral and G-Spot stimulation

[drkegels]

I was reading some discussions on other forums and the general agreement was that cul-de-sac penetration results in immensely more frequent and intense orgasms in females than clitoral and Gräfenberg spot stimulation ever could.

My questions are: Is this true? And, if so, can this be achieved through the use of dildos and other toys?
Are there non-surgical ways a woman can be manipulated into becoming less 'deep' or to bring the cul-de-sac closer to her aperture?

I ask this because hitting the CDS seems to be incredibly better (for females) than any other form of sex; however it seems prohibitively far for many of us to ever reach (as it seems to require 8.5"-9" in most cases).


Edit: Changed "most of us" to "many of us."

[wern]

CDS is supposed to be "the best" orgasm you can give. But some people claim that cliteral orgasms are the best. And some claim G-spot orgasms are the best. It's best to try all methods if you are keen to make your woman orgasm. The easiest method, for a guy, is the clitoral because it doesn't concern getting and maintaining an erection.

The statement about the requirement for large penises for CDS is not only untrue, it is almost the opposite.
1. CDS stimulation can be achieved through fingering.
2. CDS requires the finger/penis to reach past the cervix. A large penis is more likely to hit the cervix. It takes more manuevering with a larger penis to bypass the cervix.
The most successful approach to CDS is using your fingers.

Dr Kegels why the interest? Might there be a special lady out there that you want to please? :wink:

[Tmac 1 LeBron 23]

Dr Kegels why the interest? Might there be a special lady out there that you want to please? :wink:

I think we all have a lady out there we want to please :D

[drkegels]

Dr Kegels why the interest? Might there be a special lady out there that you want to please? :wink:

I wish.

No, it was just a matter of psychological satisfaction. Thanks for the info. It was enormously helpful.

[wern]

http://www.erbook.net/cul-de-sac.jpg

There are a number of different diagrams. I have seen some thta look totally different to this but in general there are a few factors to consider:
1. if you can reach the cervix you can perform direct CDS stimulation.
2. If you can't reach the cervix you can perform indirect CDS.

1 may seem better, but lots of women hate having their cervix hit during intercourse. People that dislike it often liken it to being kicked in the balls.
2. - the fact is that the vagina is a very small space. The diagrams always show a "tunnel" with organs on different sides, but in truth it is a closed space, with all organs touching each other. Therefore, stimulating one area directly will cause indirect stiumlations of other areas.

If you have a big dick and know how to use it then of course you are better off, but knowing how to use a big dick for CDS is much easier said than done. I've known about CDS for some time and never been successful with it and I have always been with women around 5"5 (as that's my height) while having a 6.5BP penis. Pain is what I usually give them when trying it.

[drkegels]

1. CDS stimulation can be achieved through fingering.
2. CDS requires the finger/penis to reach past the cervix. A large penis is more likely to hit the cervix. It takes more manuevering with a larger penis to bypass the cervix.
The most successful approach to CDS is using your fingers.

If it's up and behind the cervix, how can it be reached with a finger? Why do other sites say you need to be well above 6" to reach it?

How far up is the anterior cul-de-sac, exactly? My middle finger is only 4 inches long.

[drkegels]

Thanks for the second clarification.

How would one indirectly target the CDS? Any tricks?

Edit: Question made more direct.

[wern]

There are lots of sites that talk about the requirements for CDS. But can you provide me with a link that actually describes the steps required to execute the "CDS maneuver"?

You can find lots of sites that will show you where the clit is, but the actual technique required to induce clitoral orgasms is another thing all together. Provide me with some links and I will be able to answer your question.

[hugh g rection]

I've given a couple women all 3, and it's different for all of them. Some prefer clitoral, some like CDS( first time i have heard that honestly, I always just called it the x spot or whatever), and some really like just the gspot stuff.

I would say it probably goes clitoral/CDS, then g spot.

[JB22]

a lot of guys say they dont like it, but I think having an upward curve reall would help for this??? i dont have one, but wouldnt it make it easier to go behind the cervix?

[wern]

I would imagine a downward curve is best since the CDS is supposed to be on the bottom of the vagina.

[The Big Banana]

Turn her over then