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Valk
22nd March 2005, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Uldie42

This subject pops up many times. Guys want to know how to hold off their ejaculation whether it's for sex or to prepare themselves for sex. There are a couple factors involved which makes a male naturally ejaculate "fast". One is from your childhood. In your subconscious mind, you are "programmed" to orgasm/ejaculate fast because when you were a child, most likely you wanted to "get off fast" so you wouldn't get caught. Maybe you don't think that, but it's true. Your body was programmed that way, so it will always be that way. The second factor is your puboccocceygeus muscle, referred to as the PC muscle. The PC muscle is not naturally strong, therefore that adds to the tendencies of "premature ejaculation". But, there is hope. That is why I'm writing this article. Read on.


Re-program Your Mind

Yes, it's true. You're programmed to bust a nut quick, and there isn't shit you can do about it. Right? WRONG. There is a way around it, but it's not a quick fix. It takes time. You want to "override" the old programming with the new. So, how do you do that? You TRAIN yourself not to ejaculate quick. Yes, that's a word you didn't want to hear, but if you REALLY want to have success, you'll do the work. The training is quite simple. Do you know how to masturbate? I'm sure you do. There you go. That's your answer. You will train yourself through a simple technique called masturbation. But, you won't like what I'm going to tell you. You probably won't get a lot of "satisfaction" doing it the way I'm going to tell you, BUT you WILL get the choice of ejaculating WHENEVER you want. Choose a time that you want to ejaculate in...say you want to release after 20 minutes. That is your target from now on. Every time you go to train, you will wait until 20 minutes is up before you ejaculate. Now that you have a little understanding, I'll tell you how the training will be performed. First of all, don't just whack as fast as you can and expect this to work. It requires discipline. There will be times that you will want to just get it over with because it feels good, well, sorry, you can't do that. You will be using a "mixed rhythm" technique for this. To make it easier, listen to a song. You will be listening to different instruments at different times. Listen to a song that changes tempo...take the guitar and masturbate to the beat of the guitar. You probably think this is crazy, but keep reading...you'll be glad you did. Sometimes you will go fast, sometimes slow, sometimes only one stroke, sometimes 5 or more. After you've taken the guitar, switch to listening to the drums. You can take the cymbals, toms, snare, whatever you want...just go with the beat. Switch to the bass next, or the keyboard...whatever you want. Keep switching instruments until your time is up. After that, you can ejaculate and congratulate yourself because you are one step closer to lasting longer than you ever imagined possible. Don't do this on consecutive days, or multiple times per day. Whenever you masturbate, use this technique...don't do it one day and another day ejaculate whenever you feel like it. Every time you go to masturbate, use this technique. Stick to it for one to two months. Your body will get use to ejaculating after that 20 minutes, and then you won't need this anymore. But, there is one other trick that will help you out significantly, and it's the second part to this training method.


Training The Untrained

As you know, if you don't train your muscles, you will not become strong. The puboccocceygeus muscle is just like any other muscle in your body...it needs to be trained to become strong. You do this by an exercise called Kegels. The exercise is very simple, but you have to know what muscle the puboccocceygeus is. There is a simple way to find out. The PC muscle lies between your testicles and anus. The easiest way to find out how a kegel is performed is to take a leak, and stop the urine flow. You will feel that the PC muscle is tightening. Congratulations, you know how to do a kegel. Now, you can perform kegels anywhere at any time. You DO NOT have to be taking a piss to do kegels...that was just to show you where the PC muscle is and what kegels feel like. Remember, the PC muscle IS a muscle and can be overtrained if you don't know what you're doing. When first starting off with kegels, use a moderate squeeze. Make the concentric phase (squeeze) 4 seconds, hold for 2, and then a 4 second eccentric phase (release). Do this 25 times, 4 times a day, for 2 weeks. After 2 weeks, squeeze harder, and have a 5 second concentric phase, hold, and eccentric phase. Do this for 2 weeks as well. You should be able to notice a difference in the intensity of your orgasms after the initial 2 weeks, but it could take the whole 4. Stick to the routine. After 4 weeks, increase the number of kegels you do by 25, and up the time 10 seconds, every week.


From Me To You

Now that you know the two main factors limiting you from lasting hours, I will include something very special. I have written a few things about multiple orgasms, and I will personally teach you, through this article, how to achieve multiple orgasms. There was a time in my life, not too long ago, that I was wanting to last longer in bed. I would last a good hour or so, nothing to be ashamed of, but I wanted more. That's when I discovered multiple orgasms. You can have all the orgasms you want, but no ejaculation, and when you choose to ejaculate, you can. It is truly extraordinary, and will help you in your sex life, and your partner will be ecstatic. This will bring you closer to your lover. To be multi-orgasmic, you need to understand that kegels are very important. Without a strong PC muscle you just CANNOT do it. In order to achieve multiple orgasms you have to know where your limit is. If you pass the "point of no return", no matter what you do, you will ejaculate. Timing is CRITICAL. If you are too late, you will ejaculate, if you are too soon, you will need to kegel again, which could mean you ejaculate as well. Yes, that's probably boring information, but you need to know it in order to achieve multiple orgasms. Now, on to the goods. Start off with masturbation. You don't want to try this having sex for the first few times, because you need a good feel of things. You have to be able to rate the intensity of your feelings. While masturbating you need to say "this feels like a 6" or "this feels like a 1". 1 will be almost no arousal...10 being the point of no return. When you get around a "7", stop masturbating until the arousal subsides to about a "5". Continue masturbating when you get to this point. When you get to an "8", stop and let it subside to a "6". When you get to a "9", stop and let it subside to a "7". Now, this is where it becomes a little tricky. You will be at a "10" really soon, and you DO NOT want to reach this point. If you do, all hope is lost this time...you will ejaculate. Continue masturbating until you get to a "9.9". You should feel like a few more strokes and you will set off. At this point, squeeze your PC muscle as hard as you can. Keep your eyes OPEN, and take very deep breaths. Keep the PC muscle clamped, keep your eyes open, just a little longer. It might feel like you missed your orgasm, or you may feel a slight or full orgasm. After a good 15-20 seconds, release the kegel. You should still have an erection, and you should NOT have ejaculated. Depending on your timing, you may see a slight semen-like fluid, but that is OK. You've held off your ejaculation. Your arousal may be at a 1 at this point. Continue masturbating, until you are about to ejaculate again, and this time, ejaculate. Congratulations!! You've just had a multiple orgasm!! Next time you will know how to have a multiple orgasm, and you can have as many as you want! You will be the alpha male!!!


In conclusion, you have all the information you need right here on this page. You will never have to worry about premature ejaculation again. All it takes is dedication, and a little bit of work, and your sex life will be changed forever. This is not a quick fix, this is permanent. Stick with your kegels and remember everything I have told you, and you will be a better lover, and you will know that is what your mate is thinking. Good luck!

The Mack Daddy of CC,
Oldie.

Steve Madden
29th March 2005, 04:21 AM
Great advice. I'm a young guy, barely 18, but I too have learned to last a lot longer than the average guy, and it has little or nothing to do with kegels or any other excercise. Don't get me wrong, kegels and PE are great, and I recomend that every man who has even the slightest interest in sexual actvity perform them. However the prolonging of erections is primarily a state of mind, try masterbating but stopping just before you come, I began doing this because of the nature of PE, that is having an erection but avoiding ejaculation. Over time I leanred to enjoy sex and masterbation without comming, and reguarly do both.

drkegels
10th September 2005, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by Uldie42
At this point, squeeze your PC muscle as hard as you can. Keep your eyes OPEN, and take very deep breaths. Keep the PC muscle clamped, keep your eyes open, just a little longer. It might feel like you missed your orgasm, or you may feel a slight or full orgasm. After a good 15-20 seconds, release the kegel. You should still have an erection, and you should NOT have ejaculated. Depending on your timing, you may see a slight semen-like fluid, but that is OK. You've held off your ejaculation. Your arousal may be at a 1 at this point.

The problem is, I'm at about a 7 or 8 at this point. Am I doing something wrong? Maybe I'm clamping down too early? It's often hard to tell what a 9.9 is, but I clamp down hard for about 25-30 seconds.

I'd much prefer to be at a 1 or 2 after clamping.

Anyone?

Valk
10th September 2005, 02:19 PM
You must learn to recognize what a 8, 9 and 9.9 is by paying attention to the sensations in your body. I can take a bit of time to succesfully do this. (I dont know how long you've been trying this.)

And did you have an orgasm? If your kegelling to early your arousal level only goes down a few points but if you really orgasm it should drop more.

wern
10th September 2005, 02:58 PM
It's a great article. I remember reading it months ago. By the way, you misspelt Oldie.

Valk
10th September 2005, 03:00 PM
Oh No! :shock:

ArTee63
10th September 2005, 03:27 PM
By the way, you misspelt Oldie.


I was going to say the same. Who's Uldie? :lol:

Spike
10th September 2005, 03:38 PM
I suspect he did it on purpose - probably naughty Dutch word. :lol:

Anthrax
10th September 2005, 05:11 PM
He actually put Uldie on all of Oldie's articles... I'm glad I didn't have any articles... Who knows what he would have put for my name?

wern
11th September 2005, 10:07 AM
You misspelt Uli

orpheus
19th October 2005, 02:54 AM
A few years ago I followed this technique and I have to say for anyone who doubts it that it truly does work. Granted, it becomes something like having another job. We jerk off to get release, but the problem is the release comes too quickly and then our "internal clock" has been set at a ridiculously low amount of time. This is all fine and good if you have no sexual partner; who cares how long you last if it's only you and some lotion? However, this short orgasm time becomes a problem once a woman steps into the picture.

It took me about a month to reset my "internal clock" and I cannot stress this enough--You've got to follow this regimen each and every time you masturbate. Masturbate just once in which you allow yourself a quick orgasm and it will reset your internal clock back to the quick orgasm setting.

I reached a point where I had much more control during sex and could bang away without fear that I would orgasm too quickly and the show would be over.

I haven't had a girlfriend in a while, so I stopped doing the exercises and my internal clock went right back to being a "two pump chump", but when the next girlfriend appears on my horizon the first thing I will do is begin preparing myself with these exercises.

Netgear
20th January 2006, 02:49 AM
Still trying to master this, i have a problem with chosing the right arousal point and i really dont think i have a strong enough PC yet but thanks alot for all the info.

zeolite
20th January 2006, 12:02 PM
Netgear, as soon as I started doing weighted kegels I (almost straight away) got the hang of this. Kegels really are the key! Although, don't move on to weighted kegels until you feel ready. Good luck my friend :wink:

Pugilist
6th April 2006, 05:03 AM
This is with out a doubt the best thread I've come across. Usually when I wack to porn I make myself go in less than 5 minutes, but after reading this thread and performing kegals here and there I was able to spank it to porn for 20 minutes and not cleaning my shaft out, heh. Thanks for the post man, this is indeed helpful. I hope I'll get to test it out with a lover, whenever I do get one.

TheSchizm
7th April 2006, 06:31 AM
Sweet post man:mrgreen

And it works, I already do this :)

Zombie
14th April 2006, 02:33 AM
Let me re-say my statement. You say that going with a "beat" will help you last longer. Now say your time lenth is 20mins...then around 10mins you get the feeling that your going to shoot off. Before that feeling gets to the point of no return..do you stop for a few seconds and relax? Or do you try to kegel it and then go on.

ownd
14th April 2006, 06:53 AM
the whole lasting longer this is a tricky issue theres so many variations, just the basic stop and go, reverse kegals, buffering or just going for it and then clamping it off, i really dont know wtf to do anymore ive been training my PC muscle hard and its very strong, so ima start trying to clamp off every orgasm and get my body used to that, and also do some reverse kegals to actually prolong the normal orgasm.

ownd
14th April 2006, 06:59 AM
another side note cant it just be said to last longer learn to clamp off ur orgasm, and ur set simple as that then keep going? whats the point of all this reprogramming and reverse kegals and blah blah if u can just clamp off the ograsm and keep going?

Pugilist
14th April 2006, 07:41 AM
Anybody trying this out. I just mastered the technique today and was excited about it. I had an orgasm two times earlier today without ejaculation came home from work and spanked it out of excitement again because I know how to do this now, went to lay down to go to bed and the biggest case of blue balls hit. If anybody is going to do this, make sure you ejaculate in a good time period of stroking it or having sex. If you don't ejaculate you will suffer the consequences like I am right now :mrgreen

ownd
14th April 2006, 03:43 PM
you mastered the clamping off of ejaculation? you can stay hard after u cum? did you have to get used to this or what?

Zombie
14th April 2006, 04:18 PM
When trying to last 20mins...I don't know what to do when I get that feeling =(

Pugilist
14th April 2006, 06:21 PM
Owned. Yes. Yes. Yes. Most of the times I do kegals man is in the bathroom when I'm peeing. I've been doing kegals like that for a month now man and I've noticed more control over when I ejaculate. But, when I feel the ejaculation coming I tense my kegal muscles hard and I feel the orgasm without the ejaculation. It is the coolest thing I've probably ever learned man.

jelqer
25th January 2007, 04:00 PM
first thing,what is a reverse kegal? also, i can also back up that this is possible. i have been able to do this for a bit without knowing these exercises. it is like an orgasm but not a full one with ejaculation (maybe just a little dribble, pardon the way ive put this). my erection usaully drops a little but usually a little stimulation from my partner i am back up ater a short moment rather than my usual 15 minute cigarrette break after ejaculating. will be doing these exercises as sometimes i am a little hit and miss and i recomend anyone else. the ladies love it!

EndorphinMachine
18th February 2007, 07:13 PM
I don't know exactly if I have achieved a multiple orgasm or not. Here's what happened: I jerked off and when I felt I was gonna cum and there was no turning back I kelged as hard as I could for like 25seconds or so but when I stopped kegeling a small drop of cum came out but didn't feel like an orgasm. I jerked to see if anymore cum would come out but no it was just that bit. After that my dick was still hard(less hard of course-70% or so) and I had no will to keep going just as if I had had a real orgasm.
I was able to reach a real orgasm after that..just a few minutes after.

Is that what is supposed to hapen or should my dick stay very hard and should I keep feeling like I want to keep going?

Jedah
18th February 2007, 08:22 PM
I just held off an orgasm for the first time...I still had a hard on (about 60-70%) but my arousal was at an all time low and I had to beat off again to ejaculate. The second time took about as long as the first time. It's like making me last twice as long. Can't wait to try this stuff with my girl and lasting as long as I want.
This stuff works wonders if there are any non believers out there.

EndorphinMachine
18th February 2007, 08:45 PM
I just held off an orgasm for the first time...I still had a hard on (about 60-70%) but my arousal was at an all time low and I had to beat off again to ejaculate. The second time took about as long as the first time. It's like making me last twice as long. Can't wait to try this stuff with my girl and lasting as long as I want.
This stuff works wonders if there are any non believers out there.

But when u did it didn't u lose all interest in beating off to cum for real?
I'm just trying to figure out if what I did is what is called a multiple orgasm...

BOYDINGO
24th February 2007, 07:39 PM
Damn that's the shit. I'm going to practice that on my off days

BOYDINGO
26th February 2007, 12:38 AM
Wow so I skipped all those levels and tried clamping at 9.9 and oh god, i clamped down as hard as I could for about 30 seconds and the i think the shit worked. Only a small amount of cum came out after I released. I like this thing.

EndorphinMachine
26th February 2007, 03:32 PM
Wow so I skipped all those levels and tried clamping at 9.9 and oh god, i clamped down as hard as I could for about 30 seconds and the i think the shit worked. Only a small amount of cum came out after I released. I like this thing.
Didn't u lose your will to keep jerking off? To me that happens...maybe I'm not doing it right.

BOYDINGO
26th February 2007, 05:54 PM
Didn't u lose your will to keep jerking off? To me that happens...maybe I'm not doing it right.

I'm not sure I did it right either because the OP talks about going back down to a 1 or something like that. I was still pretty erect. So I tried one more time, and a tiny amount of cum came out again, and the second time definitely felt more better than the 1st time. I didn't want to keep trying though because I felt like i would probably have fucked up and busted a large load.

I didn't lose my will to keep jerking off though. If I didn't have someone in the next room, I would have probably kept practicing.

EndorphinMachine
26th February 2007, 06:16 PM
I'm not sure I did it right either because the OP talks about going back down to a 1 or something like that. I was still pretty erect. So I tried one more time, and a tiny amount of cum came out again, and the second time definitely felt more better than the 1st time. I didn't want to keep trying though because I felt like i would probably have fucked up and busted a large load.

I didn't lose my will to keep jerking off though. If I didn't have someone in the next room, I would have probably kept practicing.

So u didn't go back down to a 1 and were still very hard? Or did u loose erection to like 40-50%?? When u ejaculated the amount of cum that squirted out was the usual or less?

The shit is that when I do this I lose erection and sex drive and only if I see really steaming hot porn can I get it up again....so probably I haven't got it yet.

By the way, did it feel good like a normal orgasm when u kegeled to avoid ejaculation or what?

BOYDINGO
26th February 2007, 06:23 PM
So u didn't go back down to a 1 and were still very hard? Or did u loose erection to like 40-50%?? When u ejaculated the amount of cum that squirted out was the usual or less?

The shit is that when I do this I lose erection and sex drive and only if I see really steaming hot porn can I get it up again....so probably I haven't got it yet.

By the way, did it feel good like a normal orgasm when u kegeled to avoid ejaculation or what?

My erection went down to like at 40-50%. When I came it didn't shoot out, it was like little droplets after i released the clamp.

Yea it felt like a normal orgasm, but i couldn't really enjoy it as much because I was kegeling the shit out of my dick. The whole time I was just looking at the length of the porno to countdown 30 seconds so i could release the clamp.

EndorphinMachine
26th February 2007, 06:29 PM
Yeah then we both have had the same experience. But I'm still unsure about if this is what they call a multiple orgasm. I mean...it's not a pleasurable orgasm hence my doubts about if I am doing it right. When someone says "multiple orgasms!" I immediately think about having great orgasms one after the other without losing erection (which is something I could do during puberty). If what we experienced was a multiple orgasm then I am very disappointed=( I'd rather just do a training to last longer without these multiple orgasms that totaly screw my sex drive...

BOYDINGO
26th February 2007, 06:33 PM
Yeah then we both have had the same experience. But I'm still unsure about if this is what they call a multiple orgasm. I mean...it's not a pleasurable orgasm hence my doubts about if I am doing it right. When someone says "multiple orgasms!" I immediately think about having great orgasms one after the other without losing erection (which is something I could do during puberty). If what we experienced was a multiple orgasm then I am very disappointed=( I'd rather just do a training to last longer without these multiple orgasms that totaly screw my sex drive...

lol yea. Next time I have sex I want to see how this works out. I wonder if i can play it cool while I'm in her face kegeling for life. lol

EndorphinMachine
26th February 2007, 08:00 PM
lol yea. Next time I have sex I want to see how this works out. I wonder if i can play it cool while I'm in her face kegeling for life. lol

looool yeah I bet that ain't easy!! just try not to turn red or she'll think she gave u a heart attack!:lol:

BOYDINGO
26th February 2007, 09:31 PM
looool yeah I bet that ain't easy!! just try not to turn red or she'll think she gave u a heart attack!:lol:

lol :P. I was thinking about it though. It's probably better to be 40-50% erect after releasing the clamp because once you go soft she won't feel anything and you won't feel like doing anything. I know that's how i feel. So i think keeping a good erection after having an orgasm is better than going down to 1 or whatever.

MIKE21CA
27th February 2007, 04:20 PM
I think it's all about stimilus

When ur bang'n a girl or just 'practicing' I have found that if I put on some slow metal songs and try to 'go with the rythem' I forget completely about 'finishing' but the erection is 100%:mrgreen

Another bonus of music is that there are slow and fast sections, so as much reading of 9 shallow 1 deep, 8 shallow 2 deep or whatever techniques.... u just follow the song and u achieve this... plus if your with a girl, she will anticipate the 'fast' or 'slow' sections just like u, probably heightening the experience. (so every song is a 'different rythem :twisted: )

US MEN.......WE NEED A DISTRACTION.... the best of us use and stimulate the 'rest of the womans body as a distraction' others like myself need MUSIC hahaha

EndorphinMachine
27th February 2007, 08:01 PM
I think it's all about stimilus

When ur bang'n a girl or just 'practicing' I have found that if I put on some slow metal songs and try to 'go with the rythem' I forget completely about 'finishing' but the erection is 100%:mrgreen

Another bonus of music is that there are slow and fast sections, so as much reading of 9 shallow 1 deep, 8 shallow 2 deep or whatever techniques.... u just follow the song and u achieve this... plus if your with a girl, she will anticipate the 'fast' or 'slow' sections just like u, probably heightening the experience. (so every song is a 'different rythem :twisted: )

US MEN.......WE NEED A DISTRACTION.... the best of us use and stimulate the 'rest of the womans body as a distraction' others like myself need MUSIC hahaha
Ok but it migth seem a bit strange to just follow the rhythm...she might think u are disconected and lose interest in sex...U don't want the girl to think that it's the Metal that gives u a boner lol:lol:

MIKE21CA
27th February 2007, 09:37 PM
hahahaha:twisted: NOOOOOO

if you encounter that from the girl, it's real easy to get past.

You can do two things

1. Go into a girl dominant position i.e. cowgirl and let her put on a song and let her move to the rythem.

(LoveyDovey response)
2. Tell her how encompasing and intertwined you feel with her and the music and how 'all your senses' are bliss or heightened........ which leads to 1

But I believe you generally agree with my post :cool

:cheeky:

BOYDINGO
2nd March 2007, 06:02 PM
I don't know if my pc muscle has gotten stronger or just doing this 9.9 shit then clamping is better done when standing than sitting. I tried it today standing and just when I felt it coming, I kegeled but I wasn't straining as much as I do when I sit, and no cum came out at all. Felt good, but not sure if I did it right since not even a drop of cum came out.

EndorphinMachine
2nd March 2007, 11:04 PM
I don't know if my pc muscle has gotten stronger or just doing this 9.9 shit then clamping is better done when standing than sitting. I tried it today standing and just when I felt it coming, I kegeled but I wasn't straining as much as I do when I sit, and no cum came out at all. Felt good, but not sure if I did it right since not even a drop of cum came out.
I think you are right. To me it feels easier to clamp when standing up as well! Dunno why though...:roll:

jason12
7th January 2009, 05:49 AM
Real premature ejaculation is something that exercises can't usually fix. There are a few drugs out there used for premature ejaculation. SSRIs are one class of drugs I can think of that is used for this kind of problem.

Kongking
1st October 2009, 10:55 PM
I can already go for 30 or so without feeling the need, but I've been trying to stop it for when I get the real deal. The problem is I can't hold my pc muscle for long enough :( I've held it for 30 seconds and still cum as I can't hold anymore. Do I still need more training?

DappyStyle
2nd October 2009, 05:40 PM
I did this already by mistake. But its true that you see some semen, not ejeaculation, but you see it and for the ones who make sex without condom I don't know if its good, if your girl doesn't like pills and you don't like condoms, to try this... what I mean is (And call me ignorant if you want but ive seen lots of weird stuff and I dont this to happen to you) that ammount of semen depending on how deep you are on her vagina can reach the spot and make her pregnant.
I know this advice you gave is possible, I can say it by my own experience, but its dangerous too.


My advice for the ones who want to try it non stop is: Wash your dick after doing this, jus ask her a good blowjob and you are back to action at level 1 !
Otherwise there's a small probability but there is...of her telling you her period is late, and then you put it into your mind and your problem isn't "how to last longer in bed" anymore but "how to keep an erection" ... mind is rly fucked up thing... !
Play safe.