NO more girth please need Length, Help

[whatsmynameB]

I have been doing Pe for just over 1 month now. I began with (all bone pressed) 3 in flaccid, 4.25 in erect, and 5 in girth mid-shaft.

for the first 2 weeks my routine was:

5 minute warm up.
stretches for 10 seconds; straight out, to the left, to the right, upwards, and straight out an rotating each direction 10 times. Then I began jelqing for 10 minutes. At first I would watch a clock to tell me when I was done but after about the 3rd day I began counting and would do 200 jelqs 3 - 4 seconds each. ending with a 5 minute warm up.

Now I thought that I must have measured wrong because at the end of two weeks I measured at 3.25 in flaccid, 4.5 in erect, and 5.75 in girth mid-shaft. :shock: That couldn't be right. Anyway.

Beginning the third week, I changed my routine to:
10 minute warm up, same stretches only for 20 seconds, 400 jelqs, and 5 minute warm down. I have done this for 2 weeks.

I intended to do this for 8 weeks. However, I measured again and have obviously made another measurement error. I now measure at 3.3 in flaccid, 4.75 errect, (new one) 5.2 in bpsl, and 5.9 in girth mid-shaft. :?

It troubles me that my girth is longer around then my erection is long. I think I need to stop the jelqing. Would any of you agree? I believe I need to concentrate on length but as I am a complete newb at this I am desperatly seeking advice from some of you who know. What pe routine would you suggest for length gains ONLY. I don't want to be any bigger around .. for now anyway.

Thanks in advance for all of your helpfull advice.

[Beefeater]

Hmm, I suggest you try Godma's routine. It is said to bring good length gains.

Also, It's very simple, and the workouts are short.

Here's the link http://www.cheekycherry.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=809&highlight=documents

You need Acrobat reader to read these documents.

[BigBadBear]

Godma's stuff is pretty advanced and as someone who's pretty new to PE, I'm not sure if that would be the way to go.

Personally, I'd add more\longer stretching. 10 seconds each way is not enough. Consider adding Heli shakes too. Have a look at my progress diary if you want some ideas as to how to structure a stretching-heavy routine aimed at length gains (bear in mind I haven't really been at this very long, so read around the various other routines around here too).

As for the Jelqs, you definitely shouldn't give them up completely. Jelqs and stretching are the foundation of your PE routine and to take either away (unless you're doing an advanced routine) is not a good idea. Girth is probably more important than length, so gaining a bit of girth is no bad thing at all, but as I said earlier, if you want primarily length gains then more stretching is certainly the way to go.

[Beefeater]

Well, he's been doing it for about a month now, I dont see the problem.

[BigBadBear]

A month is not very long at all in PE terms. Advanced routines are best used by those who have been doing a standard PE routine for at least 6 months or so I'd say. It's hard to put a number to it, but don't be too quick to recommend advanced stuff when he hasn't even really given the regular PE exercises a good chance yet.

I'm not trying to be rude here, after all Godma's routines are good stuff and clearly did fantastic things for him, but this guy is a relative newbie (I consider myself one too) and we shouldn't recommend him jumping in at the deep end just yet.

[whatsmynameB]

wow should I or shouldn't I that is the question. I've dl'd the docs and will take a look at them. I'm not going to do anything that I even remotely think will injure my lil guy. But girth is always a good thing? I've been reading these sites for longer then I've been doing the pe trying to figure out if it is on the up and up.. I'm leaning towards it is real but I'll have to find out myself.

But reading the sites I'm seeing that I have the girth of a 7"er.. that bothers me a bit. I don't want to do something that will make it look freakish. Do jelqs really help with the length? Most of what I've read about jelqs has to do with the benefits of girth that it bestows.. where stretching is talked about with length. I am asking dumb questions I know. But I hope you'll still help a brother out.

[Beefeater]

Im not sure you are aware that there are 2 routines in Godma's docs. One of them is for newbies, and one is for more advanced users.

Also, where is it mentioned that Godma's routines are for advanced 6 months users, im curious.

[Hopper]

I think what he was saying is that instead of being impatient maybe he should just try to stick with what he is doing for a little bit longer. Maybe a month wouldn't be long enough to tell the gains? The readings look like they vary a good bit maybe he needs more accurate measuring technique. This is only my third day though what do I know. :?

[Beefeater]

It's not a question of being impatient, its a question of trying new things that suit what he wants.

My advice, try Godma's routine for a week, if you like it, continue. If you feel that you are injuring your penis or that you simply dont feel good about it, then try something else.

Like you said BBB, the first months of PE are usually spent experimenting the various PE techniques.

[BigBadBear]

But reading the sites I'm seeing that I have the girth of a 7"er.. that bothers me a bit. I don't want to do something that will make it look freakish. Do jelqs really help with the length? Most of what I've read about jelqs has to do with the benefits of girth that it bestows.. where stretching is talked about with length. I am asking dumb questions I know. But I hope you'll still help a brother out.
Your questions are perfectly reasonable, don't worry. Wet Jelqs do help in both departments, but probably lean slightly towards girth, but then it does depend on how you do them (fast\slow, loose\tight grip). If you are really worried about gaining too much then perhaps you should just keep your number of Jelqs low and make your routine very stretching-heavy. I'm not really sure that cutting them out altogether would be the best idea, but ultimately it's entirely up to you. Just read as much as possible about it and make an informed decision.

Im not sure you are aware that there are 2 routines in Godma's docs. One of them is for newbies, and one is for more advanced users.
Which routines are we talking about specifically here? Provide a link.

Also, where is it mentioned that Godma's routines are for advanced 6 months users, im curious.
6 months was just a rough estimate on my part, if you ask other people they might say more or they might say less. The point is, people shouldn't start doing all kinds of crazy advanced stuff without giving the basics a chance first. A lot of the regulars here have only ever done basic exercises such as Jelqs, Stretches, Heli shakes and Holds and have gained well. It's fine to try out more advanced stuff once you know what you're doing and are fairly experienced, but in my view you can get excellent results whatever your goals from the exercises I just mentioned.

[Beefeater]

I dont think you've read Godma's routine. I provided the link in my post above.

[Beefeater]

Godma's routine is just a bunch of that basic stuff you mention BBB.

[BigBadBear]

Actually I have read them and my issue with them is more with the intensity than the exercises.

You end up PE'ing in some form almost every day of the week, which is pretty hard on a relative beginner. Rest is very important to PE and as a beginner you should go fairly light, with a M,W,F approach probably being optimal.

Just my opinion though, people can do whatever the hell they want to be honest.

[Beefeater]

I have to agree with you BBB.

[BigBadBear]

Apologies if my posts got a bit heated there Beefeater, the fault was on my part. I must admit I had forgotten the actual content of Godma's routines from the last time I read them and it wasn't what I thought.

However, my point about PE'ing almost every day not being great for a newbie still stands and while Godma's routine definitely has some great stuff for length (Heli shakes and plenty of stretching would be excellent for length), the shortage of complete rest days could be detrimental, especially for a relative beginner.

As I said, no hard feelings. :)

[Beefeater]

No worries Bear, confrontation is essential to progress.

I simply didnt agree with your point until you mentionned the intensity aspect of Godma's routine.

That being said, I have great respect for you BBB. :)

[BigBadBear]

You were right to disagree with me, since my point was based on a lack of reading on my part.

I need to learn to read stuff before I open my mouth in future... :x

Still, nice to hear I'm reasonably well thought of, even when I make an idiot of myself... :cool

['TheBugKahuna']

WhatsmynameB

Have you been Wet Jelqing or Dry Jelqing? It is essential that you know which exercise you are doing. Wet Jelqing specifically targets increasing length, and if you are lucky some girth. While Dry Jelqing is specifically for Girth.

In my humble opinion I see nothing wrong with your routine. Why? Because you are gaining. Most people do not gain on their first month on a routine. I would keep the same routine, however, if you are Dry Jelqing, than I would switch to Wet Jelqing, for that is most likely the reason that you seem to be gaining alot of girth. Nevertheless, you are still gaining length.

Good Luck.

P.S. I wish I had to worry about gaining too much.

[whatsmynameB]

I do wet jelqs only. and every 5th or 10th one I hold the jelq at the top, do a pc flex to push blood in, and then seal it with the other hands grip. I have to be careful not to use too tight a hold but I can really feel the blood stretching the thing.

I forgot to mention that I do 300 1-sec and 50 5-second pc flexes per day... even my off days.

There was some other information I left out of the first post.. that was my frequency.. My work out was 5 days on 2 days off for about 3 weeks. But it makes sense to me what some have said about doing 1 on 1 off or 2 on 1 off. So I'm looking to build a routine around that type of schedule.

Anyway, cheers thanks for the advice. I'm glad I found this board.

[MagnumXL]

lol i hope ur not complaining about gaining too much thickness :lol:

[whatsmynameB]

I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to figure out how to control areas that I gain in. I'm very grateful for ANY gains I see from my effort.
But wouldn't concern any of you if your dick was bigger around then it was long? or is this common? I know it isn't a bad thing to have thickness but I would like to have proportional gains if possible.
I'm not out to create a monster. My goal is 6" maybe 6.5" in length. but at the present pace that would give me about a 7" girth if the gains continue as the measurements indicate and if they aren't just mistakes.

[Baseballer8]

Girth will balloon like that then it will be a bitch to get unless you target it. Don't worry about being too thick stick to stretches and wet jelqs.


BTW I have done Godma's routine and I would suggest it to beginners and advanced PEers alike. It is not as intense as you are making it out to be. :?

[whatsmynameB]

thanks BB.. I will. I've read godma's docs and I think what I will do is incorporate the on and off days and the heli shakes into a routine that keeps the current number of wet jelqs ( increasing them gradually as months pass) and increasing the number, type, and amount of time of my stretches.

Thanks again.

[MagnumXL]

baseballer did u gain much from the routine alone?

[Baseballer8]

I gained in flaccid size a lot like 1 inch but erect the results were slim maybe .2 inches. Great though for flaccid nothing else has worked that good for me.

['TheBugKahuna']

How long did you do the routine for?

[Baseballer8]

About two and a half months

['TheBugKahuna']

How long ago was it and have you kept all of your gains? I assume you have kept PEing since then.

[Baseballer8]

It was about seven months ago and yes I still hang close to the same as after I was on his routine. I have been off and on till these last two months when I really buckled down and dedicated myself.